President Soetoro?
This little gem (first circulated as an April Fools joke) is being recycled. Of course the case obliquely referenced here was dismissed, and the subpoena was quashed. This article represents what the “hope” of the denialists looks like:
transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.”
This is the man now sitting in the oval office that we’re talking about above. He is also a lawyer; that is a sworn officer of the courts system, and a member of the Bar that actually taught Constitutional Law in Illinois, before running for the office he now occupies.
This immediately brings up a number of direct conflicts of interest that in themselves create several indefensible positions for the fraud that Barack Hussein Obama, formerly Barry Soetoro, truly appears to be. How could Obama the lawyer not know that he took grant money for financial aid, from the Fulbright Foundation that was intended only for foreign citizens? How then to square this with his supposed Naturalized American-citizen status that he claimed in order to run for president? He cannot be both things in the same person; especially not at the same time.
Also Obama is a lawyer so how can he excuse himself, from lying under oath, either as a president or as a candidate; not-to-mention deceiving the public as to his actual qualifications for the office he now supposedly holds?
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about
Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as president. When reached for comment in London, where he has been in meetings with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama smiled but refused comment on the issue.”
There are far more lawyers in America than almost any other profession-so how is it that as a professional body lawyers have remained silent on so many aspects of this quagmire? For instance what has the National Bar Association said about these apparent conflicts of interest between Obama’s oath as a lawyer vs. his oath as the president? But there’s an even more basic question which has to do with how does Obama balance the lies he routinely tells the world, as opposed to his duty as an officer before the National Bar of Justice? Internationally, our commander-in-chief has placed himself and his administration even further beyond the laws than even Cheney and George W. Bush dared to go-on top of all his campaign promises that have been massively shattered at almost every turn!
“Britain’s Daily Mail has also carried the story in a front-page article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups,Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.”
The interesting aspects of this quagmire concern the following: How many times has Barack Hussein Obama lied to get where he is today. If he was not a citizen; how was he able to pass the bar and take the oath to enforce the law that he was breaking by swearing to uphold the constitution of a country that he was not clearly a citizen of? When he ran for and won an office in the State Legislature and again when he ran for and won the office of US Senator for the State of Illinois-both those jobs require swearing an oath of office that, if his birth certificate was not valid; had to have been illegally held-yes?
Moreover, as a lawyer now, and a former professor of Constitutional law: how can he continue to do the massively illegal things that he is doing each and every day as resident dictator from the oval office? Why has Obama the man, not been disbarred for cause? Also in matters of legality, the office has the White House Office of legal affairs that comes with the job  but as an officer of the courts: Obama is technically not allowed to run roughshod over all the settled laws of the United States-which he has been doing with intensity of late.
Does Obama bear an even greater responsibility when as Commander-in-Thief he orders things like illegal torture and expanded illegal wire-taps; along with claiming for himself and the administration special privileges when it comes down to abiding by the laws or crushing them under the jack-boots of his ‘administration’s long term goals?
Perhaps this glaring statistic might shed some real-time light on that topic? “Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records?” Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U.S. Attorney General, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter”.
There is also the rumor that Michelle Obama’s license to practice law in the State of Illinois was revoked-but so far at least no one seems to be able to get to the bottom of that additional bit of current presidential folklore. Why should not Obama be prosecuted for fraud against the people, and if this pans out, will this equal possible treason against the country; depending on how deeply his lies have gone into the blood and bone of the constitution that his directives have been aimed directly at, on how many different occasions?
In effect when Barack Obama was specifically asked about what the change would look like, prior to being selected, he said: “I AM THE CHANGE.” The inference being that ‘change’ was not so much about policies to be made, but rather it would be confined to his person as the new face that is the holder of the title who had taken over from the old face that was his predecessor. This goes a long way toward understanding why the new face does not want to prosecute the old face; since they both were and are working on the same unholy goals and illegal wars-but mainly on the enslavement and destruction of this country as a viable nation. That’s why Cheney Bush are not being prosecuted; because in every instance Obama has now exceeded anything that Cheney-Bush ever did before he arrived.
We need the non-lawyers in Washington to investigate the selection that sits in the Oval Office as resident dictator. The public needs to get some straight answers about just what and who our lawyer-leader-dictator really is. Most of all we need to know to what or to whom does he actually owes his allegiance as president! If he cannot clarify these things then he needs to be removed from office and publicly tried for what he has attempted to do beyond the laws of this country and the constitution!
The story was debunked by FactCheck.org last May.
When this story initially appeared a commenter quoted it as if it was real, when I asked if it was verified he went ballistic with “…you libs, you messiah loving lefties, etc,etc”. In the same vein a poster here stated as if true that the bigot “Von Brunn was a registered Democrat” and when I asked if he could verify this the same ballistic behavior erupted, again with messiah loving comments. This is merely a sign of an illness rooted in ideologue acceptance of anything that supports their position, truth be damned.
The OCW article is up. Nice piece:
http://www.ocweekly.com/2009-06-18/news/orly-taitz/1
Wow, she’s insane, and sounds more and more like a conspiracy theorist. “The guy’s IP is from Everett, Washington. He must know Obama, because Obama’s mother studied in Seattle Washington 40 years ago! Investigate this!”
Thanks for the link. I just read the entire article.
Great!
One more thing: I just left this post at her site:
“I wish you and Avigdor Lieberman would go back to Moldova. Try this stuff on Putin.
КГБ is watching you.”
That’ll rattle her cage.
There’s also a supplement to the story here:
http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/politics/super-fun-cover-story-suppleme/
Wow, by that logic I must know Obama because I used to live in Hawaii and now live in Seattle!!
Story was debunked by Factcheck? The only way the story could be debunked is for Occidental College to present the transcript, housing, and financial aid records they have possession of.
Unfortunately, a man who submits himself to public exposure on a frequent basis has his attorney fly from DC to LosAngeles to do whatever takes to make sure those records do not see the light of day.
That’s not debunking a theory. That’s covering up.
not debunked? you keep using that word. i do not think it means what you think it means …
Yes it was debunked…It was a April Fools Day hoax…Now I know it is difficult for yo but if this was even remotely true you would have seen more reaction about this. Even Phil over at TRSOL indicated that it was not true. But even if you did not believe factcheck you could research it on your own if you wanted to. You can tell it was written by an anti-Obama writer by the use of “we need to…” and quoting ‘Gary Kreep”…
Records released from Occidental college? Not true. They are not allowed to due to privacy laws.
Michelle Obama disbarred? Disbarrment is public record and the Illinois Bar association has no record of this.
“Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey”…We know this never happened because his case was never heard.
So with the obvious “facts” that were used in this article proved to be wrong, why then would you even think it is remotely true? But we all know that Sven will have a reason or make some statement where he does not address the factual issues, just like the rest of the birthers.
poor sven thinks this was a true story, Birthers don’t need the truth they just need to believe but should get back on their meds.
poor sven thinks this was a true story, Birthers don’t need the truth they just need to believe but should get back on their meds.
Sorry, forgot to add great post! Can’t wait to see your next post!
“Unfortunately, a man who submits himself to public exposure on a frequent basis has his attorney fly from DC to LosAngeles to do whatever takes to make sure those records do not see the light of day.”
Its time for the birthers to stop stomping their feet and demanding. Step up to the plate and lead by example – release all your records protected by law.
“Never ask others to do that which you, yourself, are unwilling to do.” What makes you so special that you think you can demand of another something which you would not dream of doing yourself?
The story was indeed debunked and contrary to Sven’s belief it does not require access to the transcripts etc.
Good to hear though that Sven considers people guilty until proven innocent.
Sad really. But then again, this is the same person who is not worried about the facts when making up fictitious stories about Obama and then expects that his fiction is somehow debunked. Fiction is no substitution for the facts and the Courts would never allow hypotheticals to be substitutes for the facts. And the facts do not match up with Sven’s.
But one thing is for sure, Sven’s ‘scenarios’ do show the extent to which some are willing to go in their despair to have a duly elected and sitting President removed through innuendo. If it were not that serious, it would be quite funny.
Re: “Story was debunked by Factcheck? The only way the story could be debunked is for Occidental College to present the transcript, housing, and financial aid records they have possession of.”
The way to debunk the story is to (1) call the Associated Press and ask them if they ever published it, and they reply that they did not. Debunk. And then, (2) to be sure, you call up Occidental College and ask if they ever released Obama’s transcript, and they reply that they did not. Debunk.
Debunked.
Kreep did subpoena Obama’s records from Oxy but the subpoena was quashed because Kreep didn’t follow the California civil procedure code. (Birfer lawyers tend to have a problem with basic competence.) The lawsuit has since been dismissed.
Guess Taitz isn’t so happy with the story after all.
Yes, it was debunked.
“Story was debunked by Factcheck? The only way the story could be debunked is for Occidental College to present the transcript, housing, and financial aid records they have possession of.”
On a related note, I have received confirmation from “SvenMagnussen”‘s brother that while he was enrolled at a boarding school for wayward youth, he was the founder of the nation’s only Vanilla Ice fan club, and he was also charged with public indecency for exposing himself to a group of nuns. Plus, for reasons his doctors could never ascertain, his voice never dropped after puberty.
Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Maybe Sven doesn’t even have any brothers. But unfortunately for Sven, the only way these scurrilous accusations can be truly debunked is if we’re given full access to Sven’s diaries, criminal records, and medical history.
there’s the debunkers, then there’s the debunkees, sven is a debunkee.
I second that.
I think birthers have their own skeletons in the closet. And what about that internet rumor, that Sven has fresh cement in his basement?
If he doesn’t, post photos on the internet, showing every square foot of the basement floor. Until he does, I’ll believe the e-mails I’m getting.
The sad thing is that’s her theory.
Quote from the article: And then she got this blog comment: “Did you know that if you tried your citizens’ arrest bullshit and tried to forcibly remove the president, I and millions of others would shoot you on spot and burn your body for the world to see???????? YOU LITTLE F***.” After filing a report with the Orange County Sheriff’s Department, she traced the commenter’s IP address to Everett, Washington. Suddenly, everything clicked. “I’m wondering if it’s someone who knows Obama,” she says, “because his mother, Anne Dunham, used to study at the University of Seattle, Washington. This person is at Everett, Washington, which is very close to Seattle.” .
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Loren:
Thanks. I needed that. [:^D
Now I know it is difficult for yo but if this was even remotely true you would have seen more reaction about this.Most of all we need to know to what or to whom does he actually owes his allegiance as president! If he cannot clarify these things then he needs to be removed from office .
Thanks
That is easily answered. President Obama said under oath, that he will uphold the Constitution of the United States. Can’t be clearer than that.