The occasional open thread

In honor of the publication  now of 400 articles where I set the topic, here’s one that’s open.

Have at it.

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94 Responses to The occasional open thread

  1. Shrieking Wombat says:

    Thanks Doc!

    Wherein Bad Parking Girl makes her original appearance:

    http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/08/03/first-dog-on-the-moon-370/

    Plus some lovely aircraft Pr0n:

    http://xplanes.tumblr.com/

  2. Shrieking Wombat says:

    I’m from here, BTW:

    http://maxephotos.net/galleries/met_bch_north/PortBeach-05.jpg

    Africa’s just off to the left.

  3. misha says:

    Is Orly Taitz the lawyer for a Russian mob dogfighting ring?

    I hope she can put these rumors to rest.

  4. Shrieking Wombat says:

    It would be irresponsible not to speculate, misha.

  5. G says:

    Does anybody have any idea what happened to the YTD (www.yestodemocracy.com) website?

    Patrick had just posted a new update there yesterday, yet today, the site is “gone” and states that it is “parked for free courtesy of GoDaddy.com”

  6. Bob Weber says:

    “Orly Taitz: Obama policies are ‘clear and present danger to Israel’

    By Benjamin L. Hartman, Haaretz Correspondent

    The driving force behind the ‘birther’ movement has found her star is rising in Israel.”

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1108110.html

    I figured Misha might want to handle this.

  7. Shrieking Wombat says:

    Is that what’s motivating her, do you think, other than the fact that she’s insane?

  8. Shrieking Wombat says:

    This could prove interesting:

    “Starting Friday, the 21st of Aug. we will begin contacting U.S. Marshall’s and the FBI concerning the lack of response to the Criminal Complaints sent to U.S. Attorneys.
    In addition, we will begin to contact your State’s bureau of Investigation, Sheriff’s and where applicable, Constables to demand arrest of those Senators and Representatives in your State who are now guilty of
    MISPRISION OF TREASON!
    Those of you who sent the Criminal Complaints to your US Atty’s need to now follow that up with these demands.
    Everyone else can work with your State officials and demand the same concerning your US Senators and Representatives in the US Congress.”

    http://riseupforamerica.com/

  9. Nullifidian says:

    That website…. There are no words.

    I had wondered what Gene Ray was up to after having endorsed McCain’s bid for the presidency.

  10. Bob says:

    What is funny is that misprison really isn’t a crime.

    Oh, sure, it is on the books, but is never charged. It still exists basically only to be as an occasional charge entered into as part of a plea bargain.

    “Obstruction of justice” and “accessory after the fact”: those are real crimes. “Misprison” is just the ignorant talking.

  11. Mike says:

    Latest Taitz FAIL seems to apply the same level of skill in image analysis as demonstrated by “Dr” Ron Poledancer Polarik Polland.

    http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/?p=3896

  12. myson says:

    Please will someone tell Wayk that WND has confirmed that Obama’s mother lived at the address listed in the birth announcement : http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=107337.

    Hope this settles that stupid thread that went on for several months !!!!!

  13. Welsh Dragon says:

    This appears to be what Carl S & his Grand Jury wingnuts filed yesterday:

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/18922468/PATRIOTS-HEART-et-al-PETITION-FOR-CONVENING-OF-A-FEDERAL-GRAND-JURY

    Not a lot that’s new and some that is (at least to me) is so wrong it hurts. e.g. the significance of Hawaii once being a British Protectorate to the Nationality Act 1948!

    BTW Hawaii probably wasn’t a British Protectorate but that’s an untidy piece of history.

  14. IngloriousBusterd says:

    Oh for Goodness Sake reports:

    Ed Hale

    Aug 20, 2009 – 2:25AM

    Today is the last day for the Plains Radio Network

    I have decide to shut Plains Radio down. I am just so tired of fighting and now I want to go fishing. I have issued ticket to have the web site, the chat room and the radio server shut down. This forum will remain open but unmanned till 11/04/09 and then it will be shut down. There is several reason for this. Some of the people I trusted set up another chat room and start to telling lies about Plains Radio. I have been threw this 2 times before and all I got was a 2.4 billion dollar law suit. I don’t need another.

  15. Welsh Dragon says:

    Probably worth quoting the rest:

    ‘I feel that Orly used Plains Radio to go after Berg. She said that Liberi could not help Berg because she was a criminal. Yet Orly hired this Charles Lincoln who has as bad of criminal record as Liberi. What is the difference Orly, between Berg have Liberi and you having Lincoln. Orly, you used Plains radio Network for your own personal gain.

    We worked hard to get Steve Pidgeon to agree to help Orly pro bono – I sent Orly a email and her reply was “the only thing I want for him is 1/2 of the $10,000 that you rasied for him”. That folks was a slap in the face.

    And then when we were in philly and that judge said that he had order Orly to remove all of Liberi personal information from her website and she did not , and in fact started a new web site on August 4th with Liberi personal information on it. Orly told me and that judge that she did not give a dam about the rule of law.

    My first attorny told me that I need to get away from Orly because she was going to screw it up for all of us. My 2nd attorney told me the same thing and now the 3rd perosn who helping us told us the same thing. Dr Orly is a loose cannon and she fires from the hip. She is so inexperenced that whe will never win that case in CA. She think she knows it all and can do it by herself. Many of you have seen her fails because a law student would not do what she does.

    So all of you who have your hope on Orly Taitz, get ready to get them droped againg. Orly is out for Orly only.

    Right now, no one on our side has a snowball in hale chance of removing Obama. We have a bunch of idiot out there that filing these case without a prayer to win – WAKE UP AND SMEEL THE COFFFEE – good bye all and good luck’

  16. kimba says:

    Ed Hale says he’s quitting about once a month. Then Ken Dunbar and Caren talk him down and he’s back like nothing ever happened. I’ll believe it when I see it.

  17. sunkawakan says:

    Looks like the YTD (yestodemocracy.com) domain was “snatched” upon expiration. The whois information shows contact name of Boris Kreiman. There is a Boris Kreiman who is a grandmaster chess player. The e-mail in the whois information is consistent with Kreiman’s website:

    http://kreimanchess.com/SeminarsandWorkshops.html

    No absolute guarantee it’s that Kreiman, but is suspicious.

  18. Gordon says:

    No thanks, there isn’t very much in this world that the WND can confirm or deny. They have no integrity.

  19. kimba says:

    Most people hire experts to Authenticate documents, birthers “Polarik-ate” theirs!

  20. Greg says:

    Maybe the ADL will update their “Idiot Legal Argument” page with some of the birther stuff:

    http://www.adl.org/mwd/suss1.asp

  21. Greg says:

    There’s a section on the Aryans’ attempt to claim to be “preamble” citizens and not “14th Amendment” citizens, so only subject to state laws. There’s a citation to an article that looks interesting, “When Law Risks Madness,” 8 Cardozo Studies in Law and Literature 65 (1996)

  22. Bob says:

    If citizen grand juries are empowered by the Constitution, then why do they have to beg the court to empanel a federal grand jury?

  23. I let Christina know about it, since it’s her domain. yestodemocracy.typepad.com does work, and all my past entries are at badfiction.typepad.com

  24. I’ve let Christina know about the problem. In the meantime, my updates are at my blog, which is:

    http://badfiction.typepad.com/

  25. Welsh Dragon says:

    Becuse no-one was buying that delusion?

    A tiny chink of reality crept though the fog?

  26. Bob says:

    The government in Keyes v. Obama says it still hasn’t been served.

  27. Greg says:

    That’s just sad.

  28. IngloriousBasterd says:

    Obama was served before he was sworn in. Absolutely no one becomes a federal officer until they have been properly sworn in.

  29. Bob Weber says:

    There are so many misspellings and such in that post, even for a birfer, that one suspects Mr. Hale had help from Mr. Jim Beam when he wrote it.

  30. Bob Weber says:

    “Is that what’s motivating her, do you think, other than the fact that she’s insane?”

    Yes and yes.

  31. Bob says:

    Obama was served before he was sworn in.

    O RLY? May we see proof of this (pre-inaugural) service?

  32. IngloriusBasterd says:

    August 20, 2009

    Written by Chalice

    Patriot’s Heart Network (PHNMedia.com), in the name of our members and represented by Attorney Stephen Pidgeon, along with Carl Swensson (RiseUpForAmerica.com) Robert Debeaux, Robert Pinkstaff, and Dr. Penny Kelso have successfully filed a petition in the US District Court in Washington, D.C. requesting a Federal Grand Jury be assembled to look into high crimes against the United States of America and against our 1st amendment rights. Defendants on the Petition are Barry Soetoro, (aka Barack Obama) Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean and the Media. These crimes include Conspiracy, False Personation, Intimidation of Voters, Fraud and False Statements, Fraud and related activity, Treason and Misprision of Treason. The motion for relief seeks the appointment of a Federal Grand Jury by the Chief Judge of the DC Court, Royce Lamberth.

  33. misha says:

    “I figured Misha might want to handle this.”

    I’m working on it. I have the H1N1 flu. Put that on top of asthma and a stroke, and that will delay anything.

    But yes, in her pathological hatred for Obama, she is becoming involved with anti-Semites. That is classic insanity. And extremely dangerous.

    I don’t care how much evangelicals love Israel, they give me goosebumps.

  34. milspec says:

    Wow Patriot’s Heart Network is in on this , I guess Barry Soetoro, (aka Barack Obama) is screwed now. I mean everybody has heard of Patriot’s Heart Network.

  35. milspec says:

    I still get the “attack site” warning, not going there.

  36. thisoldhippie says:

    Huh? This isn’t proper service of Keyes and these “grand juries” are not legal. This isn’t going anywhere.

  37. catbit says:

    Good God! Can I sue them for making my head asplode?

  38. Adrianinflorida says:

    I have an idea, when the “Patriots heart network” (sounds like a wingnuts dating service, or something that would have Dionne Warwick as a spokesperson) fails, a version of loser pays should be enacted. If you accuse someone of treason, and are unsuccessful, you should be found guilty of treason. Next defendant, Orly Taitz esq/dds/realtor

  39. Obama wasn’t served at all.

  40. Spike says:

    Perhaps he means that Keyes, Taitz, Martin, etc… all got their ‘crew’ together and busted out some dance moves in front of Obama?

  41. Greg says:

    The lawyers in question were military defense attorneys who presumably joined the military during the Bush administration. The organization doing the questioning is the Obama Justice Department.

    Are military lawyers liberal by definition? More liberal than the Obama Justice Department?

    What, exactly, does this say about liberalism?

  42. Heavy says:

    Did you actually READ the article? If you had, you would not ask such a question.

  43. Greg says:

    I did read the article. Did you?

    Some military defense lawyers allegedly showed photos of CIA operatives to detainees.

    The Obama justice department is investigating.

    The photos were taken by the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.

    Seems to me that everyone involved is liberal except, perhaps, the military defense lawyers.

    You know the military lawyers switch sides, doing both prosecution and defense, from one case to the next. So, you can’t even say that they’re necessarily liberal because they are defense lawyers.

    So, liberals took the photos and liberals are investigating the showing of the photos. Military lawyers (ideology unknown) did the showing, allegedly.

    So, I ask again, how does this reflect on liberalism?

    If some liberals like pie and some liberals don’t like pie, what does that say about liberals?

  44. Greg says:

    Yeah. And?

    Were you whining about conservative arrogance when Tom Delay orchestrated the redrawing of Texas’ Congressional districts to cut down on Democratic representation?

    Yeah, I didn’t think so.

  45. richCares says:

    Remember what Barney Frank said, “… like arguing with a dining room table”

    it is a complete waste of time arguing with the Bigot heavy.

  46. Heavy says:

    You forgot RACIST, asswipe!

  47. richCares says:

    yah, forgot to add racist and asswipe
    it is “the racist Bigot heavy, also an asswipe”
    THANKS FOR THE REMINDER!

  48. Bob says:

    The birther primary: GOP birthers like Palin; the rest of the GOP likes Huckabee; not many like Romney.

  49. Rickey says:

    Dr. Penny Kelso is a Texas veterinarian who has been disciplined for malpractice and, more recently, for falsifying a document about her continuing education credits.

    http://texasveterinaryrecords.110mb.com/Kelso%202008-94.pdf

    It’s easy to see how she became associated with the likes of Carl Swensson.

  50. TRUTH says:

    thats probably the SMARTEST thing Barney ever said. Maybe close to the smartest thing he’s EVER DONE! Although still arrogantly rude of the piece of crap. If he had half a brain he could’ve fielded the question with an educated comeback, making her feel either retarded for what she said or dumb because she couldn’t figure out what he said, but instead he just choose to be an asshole. Very FITTING of him considering the group he hangs with. Had OBAMA answered that, he could’ve spent 10 minutes answering it, thanked her for asking and she would’ve turned into an Oba-Maniac. I heard a stat today on the radio that Obama does 90% of the talking at most of his town halls. And he STILL doesn’t say a thing. He really is an amazing person.

  51. misha says:

    Huckabee is an affable, bible thumping idiot.

    But remember, he luvs Israel. Those settlers and the right wingers there forgot about the second part of the Jews returning to Israel.

    Auschwitz or Armageddon: this way to the furnaces. Fools.

  52. Shrieking Wombat says:

    And on another note, Calley apologises:

    http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/news/story/813820.html

  53. Adrianinflorida says:

    90%? Damn that means Freedom Works’ Grass Roots Supporters ™, are only monopolizing 10% of the town halls. We need to get that up, I’d hate for the big dollar corporations paying Freedomworks to not get their moneys worth.

  54. misha says:

    Calley and his platoon are no better than the SS Einsatzgruppen. He got three months of house arrest. Tough life.

    He hated Asians. That’s all that motivated him. Pond scum.

  55. misha says:

    “I heard a stat today on the radio that Obama does 90% of the talking at most of his town halls. And he STILL doesn’t say a thing. He really is an amazing person.”

    As opposed to Bush, who never said anything 100% of the time. Or Bill Kristol, who would be a toll collector if his father didn’t set him up for life.

    Here’s a real oxymoron: conservative Jews. Cantor is the only Jewish Republican in Congress. I wonder when he’s going to wake up. Probably when someone says ‘you’re too nice to be Jewish,’ or some variant.

    Huckabee makes me want to vom. He’s an affable, bible thumping idiot.

  56. ImaForener says:

    In case you had not seen yet – the elusive EBay seller has just posted his video of the alleged Kenyan birth certificate. By some strange coincidence it seems to magically have the name of the attending physician and even a foot print on it, not to mention a seal. So you just know it has got to be true.

    Sigh. It will never really end, will it.

  57. Bob says:

    From Taitz’s site: She seeing Judge Carter on Sept. 8.

    Bring the popcorn.

  58. Greg says:

    The Western Miscellany – Benjamin Franklin Ells (1778), p. 115:

    What is the general division of the inhabitants of every country? Into aliens and natives.

    Who are termed natives by the laws of this conntry? All persons born within the jurisdiction of the United States, together with those who were resident citizens at the time of the Declaration of Independence, though born elsewhere, and who deliberately yielded to it an express or implied sanction, is formed a Native.

  59. Adrianinflorida says:

    That was one fine piece of video. The guy even surrounded himself with inner-city kids, cause, well they’re of African descent, and that lends more credibilty to this latest fraud.

  60. kimba says:

    Thanks, Bob! I enjoyed that immensely! Why is the whole thing filmed sideways? Other than to confuse what you are looking at. Is he trying to suggest he’s in Kenya filming? Because those weren’t Kenyan children, they were black American children, and one of them was Hispanic! Nice work by Inspector Smith though. By the way, the footprint was the best part. Barack had some big-ass feet for a newborn! Oh, my day is complete.

  61. IngloriousBasturd says:

    My goodness, BO was born with a large foot.

    How long will it take for Orly to ask for a Court Order to have BO submit a footprint for verification?

  62. kimba says:

    Predictably, Obama’s latest “outrage” is his Ramadan message. This has apparently terrified some folks.

  63. Gordon says:

    Doc I’m surprised you haven’t addressed the WND Obama phony MySpace page. They have printed an Obama MySpace page that says Obama is 52 years old, born in Hawaii. Of course the issue becomes if Obama were indeed 52, he would have been born before Hawaii was a state, thus making him ineligible.

    Problem# 1, Obama has links to his real MySpace and FaceBook pages @whitehouse.gov.

    Problem# 2 is even more hilarious. How does WND spin the Kenyan BC one week, then come back the next with the born in Hawaii, but before it was a state.

  64. As far as I can tell, the MySpace.com account showing Obama as aged 52 is the Official Barack Obama MySpace page.

    According to a May 3, 2007 UPI story, http://myspace.com/barackobama had been run by a volunteer, but after a “battle over the page” it was turned over to the Obama campaign.

    See also:

    http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=159248288&blogID=259967113
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/2/35114/27244

    Of course President Obama is 48 years old, and that’s well documented. The WorldNetDaily article is a “gotcha”, not a real issue.

    However, even if Barack Obama had been born in 1957 before Hawaii was a State, he still might have been eligible to be President. Legislation at the time defined Hawaii as a “state” for the purposes of determining citizenship. Those born in Hawaii in 1957 were as much citizens of the United States as those born in 1961.

    “A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth.” Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952

  65. strikefighterxxi says:

    I think it is there hatred of Obama, bordering on delusion, that forces them to grasp on to any argument or piece of evidence that would force Obama out of office or hurt him politically. They seem to be practitioners of propaganda (bad propaganda at that) rather than journalism.

  66. Mary Brown says:

    They also have an article that speaks of the woman who took care of him as an infant while his mother attentded classes at the University of Washington. He was 7 months old at the time in early 1962.

  67. Gordon says:

    Crackpot Birther Congressman Trent Frank now threatening a lawsuit over BC issue.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/24/gop-rep-trent-franks-cons_n_267096.html#postComment

  68. jtx says:

    ImaForener:

    Actually it doesn’t really matter where he was born since he’s actually told everyone that he is not legally eligible to hold the office he now occupies when he said his birth was governed by the British Nationality Act of 1948.

    There are several excellent legal treatises on the matter if you are honestly interested. See the websites of Mario Apuzzo, Esq. and Leo Donofrio.

  69. jtx says:

    strikefighterxxi:

    You folk are certainly not the ones to talk disparingly about others using “propaganda” when on this very blog there are REAMS of didinformation and questionably or wildly incorrect legal interpretations put forth.

    Example would be the idea that Chester Arthur somehow “sets a precedent” for Obama or that English common law determines the meaning of “natural born citizen” as used in the Constitution, or that Vattel’s philosophies were somehow not used by the founders (and especially WRT the “natural born citizen” definition or that Vattel is never mentioned in US case law and SCOTUS opinions.

    All of those things are nonsense that, should anyone be really interested in learning the truth of the matter, are definitivbely shown on the websites of Mario Apuzzo, Esq. and Leo Donofrio.

    If you’d REALLY like to learn (which I frankly doubt) the information is “out there”).

  70. Greg says:

    He didn’t say he wasn’t eligible. He said that Britain considered him a British citizen. That has less to do with whether our Constitution considers him a natural born citizen than the price of tea in China.

  71. Greg says:

    Show me a single time that the Founders cited Vattel when talking about Citizenship. If they did it once, I’d be shocked. By contrast, I can show you reams of times they cited Calvin’s Case, Blackstone and other British thinkers.

    Heck, even Minor v. Happersett, after saying that the Constitution doesn’t define NBC, goes to, gasp, British Common Law for its definition! If even the Supreme Court goes to British Common law, then

  72. Bob says:

    The was a posting on tRSoL saying folks on PJ were researching French citizenship laws, and they concluded at least seven past U.S. presidents had French-U.S. dual citizenship due to some rather liberal French citizenship-by-descent laws.

  73. AdrianInFlorida says:

    It’s his career, if he wants to follow Orly down the toilet, so be it.

  74. AdrianInFlorida says:

    Orly has been ‘De-Face(booked)”

    From her virus laden site:

    “Somebody disabled my facebook account. Please demand immediate restoration. Write to disabled@facebook.com We can’t let these thugs shut down the free speech.
    August 24th, 2009
    I have not done anything that violated Facebook policy. I am a licensed attorney and would not violate any rules. My account was disabled by mistake and I demand to have it fully restored ASAP and I demand all content to be restored asap.

    Sincerely

    Dr. Orly Taitz Esq”

  75. AdrianInFlorida says:

    She’s also whining that her Wikipeida entry has been ‘changed’ and filled with ‘Slander and insults”. Also WordPress is screwing with her and the sun seems to be following her wherever sho goes….Paranoia, it’s all fun and games until somebody really does come and get you. 🙂

    —-From Virus Land——-

    “1. somebody has written a bio about me on wikipedia, that is full of slander and insults. Please contact wikipedia and ask them to clean up the article from slander and insults

    2. somebody has erased hundreds of thousands of positive articles about me. For example on Yahoo there were close to a million articles and then it fell to 175,000, went up to 450,000 and stayed there. On Google there were nearly 2 million articles, then it fell to a million, then went up to 1.5 million and stayed there. Can someone complain to Yahoo and Google?

    3. Someone disabled my Facebook account

    4. Someone has tampered with my web site. This is the third web site that is being hacked

    5. previously an e-mail address connected to my paypal was changed. I took care of it

    6. Previously my case Lightfoot v Bowen was erased from the external docket of the Supreme Court

    7. A number of people have reported tampering with my e-mail account, as they don’t get e-mails from me and I don’t get their e-mails.

    8. can someone contact FBI and Department of Justice cyber crimes and demand action. It has been 7 months and no response and no action on their part, even though I reported to them numerous death threats and tampering with my car and my husband’s car.

    8. I will have to cut somewhat on the amount of posts and moderation of e-mails and comments. I’ve got some type of poisoning and after working for 20min-half an hour I get really nauseous and have to lay down and rest. I will be doing some testing and lab tests. Meanwhile, please keep your comments short and no links (unwittingly you might bring a virus on the web site via links). Please cut he amount of e-mails, keep them very succinct and send only if there is something very important. I have some 78,000 e-mails and it takes a lot of my time and effort”

  76. Orly continues to fail to grasp the concept of “standing”.

    She has standing to complain that something is wrong with her Facebook account. A third party reading her web site does not.

    It has been clear for a long time that Orly attempts to act through popular opinion and not through law. I get the feeling that she doesn’t understand that the rules that apply to everybody else apply to her too.

  77. Those PJ folks can be downright dangerous 😉

  78. Bob says:

    Taitz writes on her site : “If Facebook continues being a puppet of Obama Nazi regime, can we start our own Facebook? e-mail me, if you can help”

    No one is stopping Taitz from doing that now. Example: Some folks thought wikipedia had a liberal bias, so they started up conservapedia.

    All Taitz needs is some programmers and a few million in VC funding. Done, and done!

  79. Mary Brown says:

    As I have commented before, the world is all about Orly Taitz-her wants, desires, beliefs. Now my 3 week-old grandson is of that opinion as well. However, what is normal for an ifant is not the norm for an adult. In essence, her behavior is infantile.

  80. Bob says:

    Donofrion, after arguing with Greg here and here and here, has come to the obvious conclusion of his hypothesis: “Forget NBC, it appears to me that even if Obama was born in Hawaii, we have no legal precedent making him a US citizen.”

  81. SixToeMoe says:

    Too Fast, Too Furious Filings Barnett f/k/a Keyes v. Obama

    Gary Kreep Declaration 08/26/09. Don’t do a thing until my clients are reinstated and we can file an amended complaint.

    Orly Taitz EMERGENCY AND EXPEDITED HEARING AND DECISION REQUEST BY SPECIAL COURT ORDER PRIOR TO MOTION DAY 08/20/09. Subpoena Duces Tecum Clinton and Gates.

  82. Bob says:

    Freedom lovin’ tRSoL bans commenter.

  83. Gordon says:

    I’m curious Doc. You’ve been in business almost a year. Have you managed to flip one birther, either publicly or privately?

  84. Gordon, that is quite a question!

    No. To my knowledge, not my efforts, nor the efforts of anyone else I know, has ever changed the mind of a birther. It is possible that some folks, unknown to me, have read things in Internet emails and ended up here (or FactCheck.org, or Politico.com, or one of the other intelligent and thoughtful blogs that discuss the topic) to find that there is nothing to the rumor, and went about their business. But the folks who actually swallow the birther hook probably suffer from some kind of mental defect that makes them unable to weigh evidence and come to a rational conclusion (or else they would never have believed these absurd stories in the first place).

  85. batp says:

    – hello-
    have you had any suggestions or ties as to whether a staged international crisis was being planned . The ties that are developing with traditional “adversarial ” or “less than cordial relations” with Nations outside normal positions?

    The advance from outside of the White house of major right wing radicals (The Brother-types)also cause my to ponder . . . what is beyond the veil?

  86. TRUTH says:

    There is a conspiracy theory going around that the health insurance reform will be good for all Americans overall, that it does NOT have any pork in it, and that it will not be repealed. You Crazy Conspirators, you make me laugh.
    That bill is such a government power hungry article I almost feel embarrassed for the people involved with it, like 11% Nancy, 8% Harry n’ Barry on the decline. It must be a proud time in Dems lives to be associated with this group misfits.

  87. Scientist says:

    I’m feeling a musical interlude coming on

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oMimCa6Hd0

  88. Everybody knows that there is pork in the new Health Care law. John McCain has said that Republicans will vote against everything Democrats propose for the rest of the year, and I presume that means the health care reconciliation bill that would remove some of the pork.

  89. misha says:

    “There is a conspiracy theory going around that the health insurance reform will be good for all Americans overall…”

    Snore.

  90. Black Lion says:

    However the most ironic things is that a lot of the so called Health care bill are originally Republican ideas. There is no public option. So why is the GOP so against the bill? It is because the GOP and the bosses of the party, the overseer Rush Limbaugh and his idiotic cronies has decided to oppose anything the Democrats propose. They could have a cure for cancer and the GOP would oppose it because they feel that being obstructionists is their only way to regain power. Time will only tell if they are going to be successful but already the infamous “waterloo” comment is comming back to bite them in the ass. And some conservatives are breaking from the script and calling out the GOP for not trying to work with the Dems.

  91. SFJeff says:

    I am pretty pleased the health care bill passed. Myself- I look forward to the day when insurance companies can’t drop people because they get sick. I look forward to the day that people can get health insurance even if they have a pre-existing condition. I look forward to a day where poor people have health insurance and go to doctors rather than me paying for them to go to emergency rooms.

    Republicans had 8 years to do something about health insurance reform, but didn’t care. Their mealy mouth talk about what they wanted for health insurance reform is just a cover- what they wanted was the status quo to continue- that emergency rooms would be the health care for the poor, insurance companies could continue to drop sick people and rack up big profits.

    Personally i don’t think it went far enough, but it is good enough. Let Truth and the Republicans continue to try to scare Americans. Those who end up with insurance they didn’t have before, or who are able to switch insurance companies when they have pre-existing conditions will be won over.

    Good day for America.

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