Nobel Prize Winner
If I had written that headline yesterday, it would have headed up a satirical article about the birthers filing lawsuits in Norway over Obama’s eligibility with Orly Taitz racing into the Award Ceremony trailing papers and lists of Social Security Numbers, but I awoke to this news on the radio today and verified that it is not April 1.
Obama joins three other US presidents who were awarded the prize: Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Jimmy Carter and Vice-President Al Gore.
In comments below, we can track the denialist reaction, spin and further denial if any. My personal thought is that it is rather early in the Obama administration to see the “proof in the pudding” of President Obama’s contribution to world peace, and I wonder if this award is more of an “anti peace prize” given to President Bush than an affirmative prize for Obama. On the other hand, the Nobel committee may be giving the prize as an incentive for Obama to live up to their hopes for him and it may be the case that Obama has done more for world peace through his eloquently presented vision and leadership than we in the largely insular United States are able to see, as preoccupied as we are with other things.
Maybe I’m too much of a dreamer, but the rest of the world seems to love Barack Obama and I think awarding him the Peace Prize may be the Nobel committee’s way of recognizing and encouraging the tremendous hope and promise the world has for Obama.
Thinking of it as the “anti_bush prize” may be a bit cynical, Doc. I can’t wait to see the reaction from the birther world “but he hasn’t done Anything!” ” What a joke” “fix” “paid off the committee”. I wonder if Judges Carter or Land will incorporate it into their comments/decisions. Another reason to come to OCT! I just can’t wait to see what happens next!
Early sample from TBN:
“I think they should have waited until he actually did something more than give speeches. ”
“Humm it’s a joke and I AIN’T LAUGHING! ”
“the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he doesn’t exist.”
These people are so predictable. Bitter much?
via freeperville:
Today, U.S. President Barack Obama won the Nobel Prize for Peace. According to the Nobel Committee, he was awarded the prize for “his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.”
See, it says “U.S. President Obama”, that means he had to prove his citizenship to the Nobel committee. That means Birthistan can file “Freedom of Information” to require the Nobel documents, proving he is from Kenya.
I voted for the President and would do it once more if the election were held again today, but I have to say this award is puzzling. He’d been in office just two weeks when the nominations were due. Seems a disservice to other nominees who’d actually been able to create working policy and perhaps achieve something prior to the nomination deadline.
Doc, I think it is probably a combination of the anti-Bush sentiment and the hope that President Obama brings to the world. Under former President Bush, our country had become a hated entity around the world. People saw all of the negative things our country was doing and treated us with dislike and disdain. With our current President, they see the change he is trying to instill. They see the worlds only remaining superpower as a country trying to help instead of just look out for its own interests. I think the award was for how much President Obama has changed how the US is viewed in the mind and hearts of most of the world.
Of course the people that hate the President will see all kinds of conspiracy theories. Things like there was some sort of corruption, threats, or other nefarious actions on the part of the Obama administration to get this award. The people that hate him cant stand it if he does anything positive. Remember they would rather see American fail than see President Obama be successful. That was evident with the Olympics last week. I am sure Beck and Rush along with the Fox idiots will spin this in any negative way they can.
It has been suggested that the prize was not so much an award for achievement as an incentive for Obama to make peace in the future.
That was a very clever observation.
Speaking as a Frenchman, we feel that you Americans always give the blacks the worst jobs. So this is our way of making him feel a little better. 🙂
All the birthers are just foaming at their mouths over the Nobel Prize…oh wait, they were already foaming at the mouth.
Well, they’re foaming at their mouths even more!
It’s also been suggested that it’s the first “eff you” Nobel Peace prize, awarded because he’s not George W. Bush. I’m not convinced that either are appropriate justification for conferring the award.
Here’s Nobel’s criteria:
Meanwhile the Gitmo closure is a clustersmuck, and we’re still at war in two Muslim countries (considering escalation in one) and keeping our options open for a third.
Donofrio not pleased.
What is interesting about Donofrio’s reaction is that it is based on his dislike for Obama’s policies (specifically, abortion). Donofrio’s “just defending the constitution” mask has clearly slipped.
I don’t believe you voted for him, Rob. You too easily managed to incorporate all the elements of the conservative response to every Obama accomplishment: find some way to diminish it from being the honor that it truly is, degrade it by suggesting it is about giving GW the finger, not about honoring Obama, dismiss it because the current President inherited two wars from his predecessor {one that has been waged (poorly) for 8 years}, except it as not equivalent to the others before it and suggest it is not truly genuine, doesn’t meet the real requirements. Your comment embodies all that is malicious, duplicitous, snide, sarcastic and juvenile about conservatives today. So it makes me think you are one. Nothing more than a heaping helping of good old fashioned sour grapes.
Orly’s Facebook friends are, predictably, up in arms. And she has put out a request for reinforcements [typos as they appear in the original]:
“Anyone who is interest in volunteering for Dr. Taitz with legal work, such as paralegals, lawyers, legal clerks or administrative duties. Please contact Dr. Taitz at Dr_Taitz@yahoo.com or you may call 949-683-5411. Any t…ype of volunteer work is welcomed. Dr. Taitz is located at 29839 Santa Margarita, Rancho Santa Margarita, CA. 92688.”
The first reply: “Does one HAVE to be qualified to work on this stuff?”
Orly’s response: “No, just the willingness to work. Thanks!”
So no qualifications are required to do legal work for Orly Taitz, D.D.S.
What irks me is that Obama’s view on abortion is basically looking at the law and the Constitution. Currently Roe v. Wade (with many caveats) is the law and is based on Constitutional foundations such as Griswold and the right to privacy. They want to call him a “baby killer” simply because his votes on certain proposed bills (such as the Illinois “Born alive infant protection act”) reflect his concern that those proposed bills will violate the law. How exactly is Donofrio “defending the Constitution” when his motivation comes from views that might run afoul of current Constitutional law? As you said, the mask is slipping.
Here’s my campaign fund raising page:
http://my.barackobama.com/page/outreach/view/main/52novels
Here’s me and my wife at Invesco Field last August:
http://www.52novels.com/archives/wow-just-wow/
Your response is a straw man argument. I never said winning the Nobel isn’t an honor for President Obama, nor isn’t the same as when others win it. I never even said that I disagree with it.
To recap what I did actually say:
1. I think it’s puzzling, given the the deadline for nominations.
2. Getting the award “as incentive for future acts” (as Doc says some people are suggesting) or “for not being GWB” (as I say other people are suggesting) don’t seem to be appropriate justification, given the award’s criteria.
The only thing you did get right, and only in the most general sense, is that I am a conservative. But to that, I give you another link to my blog: http://www.52novels.com/archives/why-im-voting-for-barack-obama/. And if you continue to doubt me, take a look around… the thing is lousy with pro-Obama posts.
The right is up in arms about this…From Redstate via media matters…
“I did not realize the Nobel Peace Prize had an affirmative action quota for, but that is the only thing I can think of for this news.”
http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910090008
From the committee regarding why they gave President Obama the prize…
“The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.
Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts.
Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.”
This reaction from the idiots over at FOX is classic…This is driving them crazy…
http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200910090001
It makes you wonder why the people at FOX hate America…
Well I voted for Obama too, and consider myself a supporter, but frankly I think this prize is both premature and a distraction.
It will give ammunition to the always paranoid far right that international bodies are too political and I don’t think will help President Obama with his agenda.
I stand by what I wrote. Here’s what you said about the award:
-Puzzling.
-a disservice to other nominees who’d actually been able to create working policy and perhaps achieve something prior to the nomination deadline.
– An eff you to George Bush
– Not an apprpriate conferring of the award.
– You listed the requirements and then brought in G’mo, Ira
I think you Do you honestly think there’d be a single conservative who would say anything like you said if it had been Bush.
By the way, I thought John McCain response was very pro-American:
“And I’m sure the president understands that he now has even more to live up to. But as Americans, we’re proud when our president receives an award of that prestigious category.”
You’re obliterating context and making straw man arguments. It’s poor form and unexpected, frankly.
And, yes, I’d have been appalled if GWB had been given a Nobel Peace prize, given — for starters — that he waged an unjust war, alienated us from the world with idiotic foreign policy, and turned his back on our values by torturing prisoners of war.
Sorry… that last post from me was directed @kimba here.
Incidentally, here’s Marc Ambinder from The Atlantic (italics mine):
Why should orly require qualifications when her clients don’t ask the same from her?
And is there any reason that the America haters over at Fox felt it necessary to do a split screen of Obama with Ahmadenejad?
Maybe I could help her with her web site.
Of course. Her assistant and BFF is a disbarred felon. Why should she change her high standards?
I think I should e-mail her, and recommend the law firm of Dewey, Cheatum, and Howe. (bada-bing)
I do not think the timing of the nomination of Barack Obama is necessarily significant. It may have been a partisan, or a knee-jerk nomination that didn’t have a chance at the time.
Yes. How can a PEACE prize recipient send more troops into war or take military action against Iran?
You people are sick, twisted fools.
Jeff, at least McCain is showing some class…Unfortunately after seeing the comments from good ol Mikey Steele, McCain may be the only one with some…
Because they can’t help themselves. Even then they have to go for the subtle attacks, linking the President with that crazy from Iran. They have done it before so this is not a surprise. Nor was the reactions of their so called “hosts”….
Admin wrote: > it may be the case that Obama has done more for world peace through his eloquently presented vision than we in the United States are able to see …
Yes, keep telling yourself that. Maybe it will come true someday (especially the more you underscore it).
Just incidentally, Barack Obama was inaugurated January 20th, 2009. The deadline for the Nobel Peace Prize nominations was February 1st, 2009.
So much eloquently presented vision, so little time.
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And Ray since you are so brillant when was the vote taken? I bet you don’t know. Just repeating the right’s talking points without putting them in context makes you sound like Hannity or Beck. For all you know the vote could have been held last week. For all you know the voters could have had the last 7 months to evaluate and see how in that short a time the President has changed the views of America by the world and has given the world home that the US will ask questions first before acting like a reckless cowboy.
The most important fact is when the vote was held. I don’t care when the nomination deadline was. The fact is that the voters, who encompass many different countries, religions, and backgrounds chose the President of the United States out of 200 other nominees. That in itself is amazing and outstanding. We should be happy for our leader. He should embrace the award and be humbled by it. He should use it to help enforce his vision and ideas. It is not up to anyone to judge whether or not he deserved it. Obviously the voters thought so. And kind of like the election, that is all that counts.
Interesting…However if Obama tomorrow withdrew all of the troops from Afganistan, and the Taliban took over he would be vilified for letting that happen. So Heavy you want him to lose the war to prove that he is a man of peace. The fact is it is GWB’s war. The US, right or wrong made a commitment there and in Iraq. I am personally against escalation but the issue needs to be resolved. Sometimes the best peacemaker is the guy with the biggest stick.
Ray sounds like he will be disappointed if Obama does succeed in making the world a more peaceful place.
Incidentally, I think the President should turn it down. It wouldn’t impress the haters on the right, but I think there are enough moderates who could appreciate a nod towards those who have done more up to now to promote peace- it would impress me.
Blackie, you miss the point as usual. My point is that they are trying to get the boy wonder to feel guilty and NOT send in more troops or taKE military action against Iran.
This is GWB’s war? Really? last I heard, you boy thinks he’s in charge. This is HIS war like it or not.
And yes, I agree…The best deterrent is a big arsenal. BUT you must threaten to use it. Your imposter is doing just the opposite.
How about paying attention rather than running your mouth and trying to defend this piece of [expletive deleted, Doc C.] at ANY cost!
My comment is awaiting moderation? How sad, Doc.
I get it now… That site must be a joke.
There is an ad on the bottom of the PayPal comments page that says
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http://www.FightTheSmears.com
Orly is on Obama’s payroll!!!
Actually, you are correct….the final voting for the peace prize took place this past week.
Black Lion wrote: > you are so brillant [sic]
Thank you, Black Lion. It warms my heart to hear you roar like that.
Black Lion wrote: > Just repeating… talking points … without … context
I would never!
Black Lion wrote: > the vote could have been held last week.
Yes.
Black Lion wrote: > the voters could have had the last 7 months to evaluate
Yes. Or eight, even.
Black Lion wrote: > and see how in that short a time the President has changed the views of America by the world and has given the world home that the US will ask questions first
What?
Black Lion wrote: > The most important fact is when the vote was held.
Not really, no.
Black Lion wrote: > I don’t care when the nomination deadline was.
No, I know you don’t.
Black Lion wrote: > We should be happy for our leader.
That about sums it up, I’d say. Your last two words in particular.
The answer to your irrelevant question, Black Lion, is, as every good little schoolgirl knows, the first week of each October. Quote:
At the beginning of October, the Nobel Committee chooses the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates through a majority vote. The decision is final and without appeal. The names of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates are then announced.
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“[My grandmother] was a typical white person.”
— Nobel Peace Prize winner Barack Obama, 2008.
Yes, you triggered the automatic nasty word filter. I have sanitized your comment and approved it.
This marks the second Nobel Peace Prize awarded to a citizen of Kenya, following Wangari Maathai.
“the greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing the world that he doesn’t exist.”
It must be my West Virginia roots, because I’m a bit of a religious traditionalist when it comes to this habit of quoting from The Usual Suspects as if it were a profound work of theology—I’d like to see the offending party stoned.
Reax from three prominent left-of-center members of the media:
Ana Marie Cox: Apparently Nobel prizes now being awarded to anyone who is not George Bush.
Ezra Klein: About to receive the Nobel for hitting 7,000 Twitter followers. Planning to share it with the world.
and
Obama also awarded Nobel prize in chemistry. “He’s just got great chemistry,” says Nobel Committee.
and
How long till the Nobel Committee just gives up the ghost and names “you!” the winner of the peace prize?
George Stephanopoulos runs down the best jokes (his words, not mine).
Considering the criteria defined by the guy who, you know, established/endowed the award, and the current status of several things that undermine that criteria, turns out I’m the bad guy for saying that I’m puzzled that the President won and that I think two arguments defending it are weak. (Even the New York Times called the win “a surprise.”)
But what’s truly shocking to me — given the consistent high caliber of Doc’s scholarship and intellectual honesty, as well as that of so many others here — was that my honest questioning was answered with a string of logical fallacies.
The truth of the matter — had anyone bothered to ask me, rather than put words in my mouth — is that the President didn’t ask for the award, so he’s not the bad guy. Does he deserve it? I don’t think so. But not because I hate the President. (On the contrary: I’m proud of the work I did to help get him elected, as I am to call him my president.) I don’t think he deserves it because it’s too soon in his presidency and too little of its promise has come to fruition. Again, it’s not a reflection on President Obama or the job he’s done. Instead, it’s a reflection on Nobel voters.
Shame it has become so political.
Don’t get me started on “defending the Constitution.” Where were those people during the 8 years when President Cheney wiped his ass with it?
Or when the Courts clearly continue to humor her.
You Americans don’t get it, do you?
You don’t realize how much of a blight upon the rest of the world you had become during the dark days of the Cheney Presidency.
Every time we (or the Spaniards or the Brits) arrest a wannabe terrorist here, it’s “Iraq, Iraq, Iraq”. Thank you, guys.
Just canceling that criminally stupid missile “shield” in Poland was worthy of the Nobel. Go Obama!
This is a symbol, that says to your people “welcome back to the community of nations” as opposed to “how do we deal with the rabid dog” you had become.
Apologies for the rant, but I’ve just read a bunch of particularly stupid quotes from the punditocracy on CNN.
Don’t apologize. We had to live with Bush and Cheney for 8 years. Of course Cheney was really the prez. Bush was a frat boy with a misdemeanor conviction: http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/02/bush.dui/
I’ve dealt with those evangelicals. They are sanctimonius SOBs. He’s going into history as the worst military blunder in US history. Not as bad as ignoring the Russian winter, but close.
Here’s what we really think of evangelicals:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/christianreader.html
Lupin: You Americans don’t get it, do you?
I think that’s a fair assessment. Of course one of our problems is that we have a big country, and the rest of the world is pretty far away from most of us. Our mainstream media’s foreign coverage consists primarily of disasters and Iraq/Afghanistan. I doubt 5% of Americans (outside of the areas that border those countries) could even tell you who the Prime Minister of Canada is or the President of Mexico.
I got this email from President Obama yesterday:
It’s pretty much the transcript of yesterday’s Rose Garden address.
I should have said: present company excepted, of course.
But really, canceling the missile shield and restoring good relations with Russia was seen as a big deal. In Europe, I mean.
Besides, Peace Prizes are often awarded for, shall we say, symbolic of ideological reasons, not achievements.
Even though I’m no enthusiastic fan of some of the US policies, your president, your country, deserves it. Welcome back.
Doc:
Earlier you said something about “… proof of the pudding …”.
We all make mistakes so you’re welcome to admit that what you REALLY wrote (and meant) was “… proof of the piddling …” since your hero hasn’t even shown himself to be eligible for the office he now occupies but is just piddling around – let alone ANY peace prize (or should that have been “piece prize” … a good sized piece of each and every American citizen so far – and growing as we speak).
And yet, so many good things have and are going to take place while in office for his first term.
Annoying, isn’t it.
Healthcare reform should be done in a month or so.
One Supreme Court judge appointed.
Nobel Peace Prize.
Priceless..
The importance of the Nobel Peace Prize is that the world has realized that the United States is finally willing to play the role of a real world leader rather than a purely military power.
Military power alone will never be able to resolve the conflicts the USA initiated in the Middle East.
The problems Obama will face are mostly internal since there is still a significant proportion of our country who only understand bullying rather than diplomacy.
It’s a sad day when comments like mine have to be specifically labeled “JOKE”, lest they be downmodded into nonexistence. Thanks to the two people who got it.
I guess it’s my own fault, since I only ever follow this subject for the laughs (and Messrs. Donofrio and Apuzzo and Dr. Taitz provide them in abundance).
“Welcome back.”
I, along with many others, was appalled telling the UN to go jump in a lake, and then invade Iraq. How many are coming back missing eyes, limbs, with 3rd degree burns, psych cases – all so Halliburton could get its hands on the oil?
Idi Amin was 100x worse, but Ford did not send in the Marines – because there isn’t any oil.
The solution to the Middle East is diplomatic, not military, and I say that as someone Jewish who lived there. I will not be a player in the evangelicals’ sick theatre.
One more evangelical parody: http://www.landoverbaptist.org/thelittlejew.htm
I got it.
My jokes are too subtle, also. Years ago, I managed an optical store in DC. I got an award for customer service of the year. I was called up to the lectern, and the DM said “say something inspirational.”
So I leaned into the mic, and said “Wausau.” The DM looked at me and said “Are you crazy?” No one had seen the commercial, and the room was silent. I got back to the table, and one person said, “I got it.” One out of 100.
I doubt 5% of Americans (outside of the areas that border those countries) could even tell you who the Prime Minister of Canada is or the President of Mexico.
As depressing as it may sound, I can see Tijuana from my house, and I doubt that 5% of residents here could name Felipe Calderón or know what he does (and the vast majority of those that could would be the ones with family in Mexico).
That’s what I have been saying. I personally know someone whose brother was railroaded when the Constitution was considered a nuisance.
“I can see Tijuana from my house”
OMG. I can see City Hall from where I am sitting. Wow – Tijuana, Russia, and City Hall. We hit the trifecta.
“Military power alone will never be able to resolve the conflicts the USA initiated in the Middle East.”
As I commented before, as someone Jewish who lived in Israel, the solution is diplomacy, not military.
Arabs are not 1930s Germans, and the US should force the issue.
It does seem to be a bit early in his overall career – and especially in his presidency – for him to be given such a prestigious award, but I have to admire the grace and humility with which he is accepting it, including – from what I’ve heard – donating the prize money to charity.
I am puzzled, dismayed, annoyed that people seem to want to insist Obama somehow doesn’t deserve it, hasn’t earned it, it’s too “early” in his career. The Nobel Peace prize isn’t a lifetime achievement award. It’s awarded for specific activities or achievements that have promoted Peace in the world. I submit that Obama has accomplished a number of things that for each alone could have won it: cancelling the installation of missile defense in Poland, bringing Iran to the negotiating table, settling down N Korea with a schmooze visit from President Clinton. Barack Obama is a skilled diplomat. Each of those 3 things promoted peace in the world and those aren’t the only things he has accomplished.
May I refer you back to Lupin’s comments. Lupin lives in France.
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/10/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-3/#comment-24858
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/10/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/comment-page-3/#comment-24865
I made the same comment on another message board. There, I could use a smiley.
A few years ago I was at the dentists having some teeth filled. I was all numb and my mouth was full of padding. My dentist, who is from Canada, was talking about how little little Americans know about things outside their country and gave as an example the Canadian national elections that had taken place the day before. In my numbed speech, I mumbled, “the Parti Quebecois gained seats”. He didn’t know what to say.
More decades ago than I’ll admit, one of my nuns gave this advice on how to act when you receive a compliment.
Be humble.
Say, thank-you.
Then, do your best to live up to the compliment.
Congratulations, Mr. President.
Great advice. Thank you.
Lupin, great commentary. Americans sometimes don’t understand how badly we were viewed under the Bush Administration. Obama is pointing this country in the right direction. Which is the most important thing…
Misha, good one with this Landover Baptist. Got me.
I suppose there is a thin line between satire and smear, but quite a bit on the Landover site has, in my opinion, crossed it.
@Dave Muckey
As someone Jewish who was educated by Jesuits, I wholeheartedly agree.
The main problem in the Middle East, is the same as Ireland and the Balkans: everyone remembers what your grandfather did to my grandfather.
Both sides are going to have to be forced to the table, and told to stop licking their wounds.
You’re right on those point. The only problem is that the nominations deadline was only 2 weeks after he was inaugurated, and the awarding of the Peace Prize was to be for things he accomplished in 2008. All of the things you mentioned were accomplished after the nomination deadline.
That’s why I feel it was maybe a bit early in his career for this kind of award, but I wasn’t suggesting that it should be taken away from him or that he had no right accepting it. I really like the way he’s handled the situation, and, really, I’m more happy than anything else that he got it. I just think that the timing could perhaps have been a bit better in another year or so.
I’m sorry, I really don’t get your point. The voting was last week.
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html
It’s not a lifetime or cumulative achievement award. He’s not limited to winning it only once. Here’s their statement why they gave it to him this year.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26189597-401,00.html
Our President was just given the world’s most prestigious award. Why not just be happy for the winner?
Great article regarding Orly and her “defense” of our buddy Charles Lincoln III…
“She claimed Lincoln had retired voluntary from practicing law, because he didn’t want to do it anymore…”
“All that said, Charles Edward Lincoln III has a few saving graces, his education being one of them, while Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq. has none. He is who he is and he is already disbarred. She is solely responsible for putting her profession, her clients, and her movement at risk.”
http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=3677
And potentially more trouble for Orly with the California bar because she hasn’t reported that she has a disbarred attorney working for her.
So now only good libs can comment here. Congrats Doc! You’ve done most of what you said you would not do to this blog. Banning people, screening comments and making it almost impossible for the other side to be heard. It used to be enjoyable to come here and see what you fools were up to. Now it’s just a liberal masturbation blog.
Not that you will care at all, but I’m finished with you and this blog. I’d wish you good luck, but I’d be lying. I hope ALL of you sick, twisted fools burn in hell!
Bye Heavy! No, I won’t miss you.
” hope ALL of you sick, twisted fools burn in hell!”
Heavy,
We will miss your Christ-like insights.
Doc,
When you instituted the filter, I could always click to open the hidden comments, but not there seems to be a second layer that I cannot open up, and this is coming up for quite a few comments. Is this by design? I mean, I know I am not missing anything when a comment by Heavy gets hidden, but I am curious as to the wingnuttery ideas of some of the other posters.
You and Greg are reporting this issue. I saw it once, but presumed that it was because the commenter themselves had used “Hidden due to low comment rating” as the comment. If this is not it, then it is certainly not by design. I will investigate.
Just to point you in the right direction- I can’t open up Ray’s comments immediately below.
The comments with multiple thumbs down are fading out again, too.
This is now fixed.
Overlooking all the posts, risking repeating anything, my 2cents on the NPP.
Norwegians did nothing more than make the NPP worthless. I seen a couple days ago there were 173 nominations, so 172 were less qualified than BHO. RIGHT!!! I would probably be safe in saying 50% of them contributed something to the world in which they worked very hard at for at least the previous 365 days before Feb.1st, the day nominations were closed out. BHO’s 11 days in office and his “spoken ideas” beat out the great work many others put forth. Note, I said “spoken ideas”, because what he says and what he intends to do and what he does, are three different.
ANyways, the point being, Norwegian officials have made the NPP worth less than a Cub Scouts tying a square knot merit badge. Of Value, Obama’s done Nothing. Hell, He worsened race issues running his trap over the Policeman/Professor controversy, then tried to cover it up with a 6pk.
Maybe another country could balance it out by awarding Obama the Green Weenie Award.
UHH… just your opinion on the Prize, which is biased (and that is my understatement of the week). Personally, I am stunned by the arrogant attitude here from the right, which gripes that an International and highly prestigious organization has the balls to ignore American spitefulness, but they “should” go along with your views.
YOU don’t like Obama, or his goals. Good ol’ America protects your right to think that way. It does not give you the right to dictate to the committee, what YOU think is or isn’t worthy of acknowledging.