A hearing is scheduled January 25, 2009 before federal judge David O. Carter in the case of Barnett v. Obama, to hear a motion by attorney Orly Taitz to transfer the case to the federal court in the District of Columbia. Orly Taitz has been known for accumulating long lists of plaintiffs and although she lost two of them (Drake and Robinson), she has more than made up for this loss with the addition of the whole country:
“we the people of the United States of America”, in the interest of the National Security and in the interest of Justice, the undersigned counsel respectfully moves the court to transfer this case to Honorable Judge Royce Lamberth, chief judge of the US District Court for the District of Columbia, for the case to be heard on the merits as soon as possible.
While the motion does not specify the precise reason for the change of courts, one presumes it comes from the exclusive jurisdiction of the District of Columbia court to hear quo warranto cases.
Orly apparently hasn’t come to grips with the fact that her case has been dismissed with prejudice. Unless I’m missing something, there is no case to transfer. She either goes through with her appeal, or she drops it.
Dear Rickey,
Orly is cutting her teeth on the legal profession by trying to get a sitting President unseated by a theory of law that no controlling legal authority agrees with. No lawyer who thinks that is a reasonable quest knows what “dismissed with prejudice” means.
Benji Franklin
Two Questions:
Did you mean “plaintiffs” instead of defendants?
If she is trying to “represent” the entire country can I sue her for trying to speak for me???
Oops on “plaintiffs”. And yes, you cam most definitely sue Orly for trying to speak for you, but I think your case will suffer from a lack of standing. 😳
Oh Doc!
Your comment disabled me for the better part of 5 minutes laughing! Tell me I get it; Orly can get away with illegally claiming to represent everyone in the United States because none of us can show that we suffered any particularized harm besides that suffered by EVERY CLIENT ORLY REPRESENTS? Oh, the inironicalitynessshippery!
Well done again, Doc!
Benji Franklin
Benji Franklin: Tell me I get it
You get it.
After exhaustive research, I have found the proper court in which this case (and all other birther cases) should be heard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XawAhUn9mZY
Good one! However, I guess I could lodge a bar complaint because she has attempted to ursurp my say in whether or not I want to be represented in this matter. 🙂
Excuse me, but I’m here for an argument. And my cat is suffering from angst.
Sorry, I was expecting the Spanish Inquisition.
Interesting article froom Review America regarding the President….Especially Berg’s fact challenged response…
http://www.renewamerica.com/article/091224
The first paragraph is from the Freeze article and the second is Berg’s response…
“1. Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii joined the Union in 1959. Barack Obama was born in 1961. Do the math. It works. Ok, so perhaps that argument is a bit over-simplified, but that is because I find the birth certificate question so ridiculous. The President released his birth certificate (which was verified by the Hawaii Health Department) yet conspiracy theorists refuse to see logic. “Big bad Obama must be hiding something. That certificate isn’t the long form. What’s he hiding?” What the naysayers fail to realize is that in 1961 the standard Hawaiian birth certificate was…wait for it…exactly the same length as Obama’s! The Hawaiian Health Department has said this, but as conspiracy theorists point out, they must be covering for Obama. Despite the facts, folks say that even if he was born in Hawaii, he is not a natural born citizen because his father was Kenyan. However, even if Obama was born on the moon, he would still be a natural born citizen under the Immigration and Nationality Act.”
“First, the “long version” birth certificate we are asking for has nothing do to with the size of the document itself, instead it has to do with the information on the document. We have never claimed Hawaii was not a state of the Union, so this has nothing to do with the questions we are seeking answers too. Soetoro/Obama released two (2) forged images of a Certification of Live Birth, claiming it to be his birth certificate. The Hawaii Health Department has NEVER verified the images placed on the internet. Law 101: No agency or person can look at an online image and state the document came from their agency or location, unless the person making such statement was the one who personally printed the document in question (Soetoro/Obama’s Certification of Live Birth in this case) and handed it to Soetoro/Obama and can prove it is in fact the same document. In Soetoro/Obama’s case, his campaign office stated they mailed the application for his Certification of Live Birth to Hawaii and received this supposed document back from Hawaii. However, on the date that Soetoro/Obama would have signed it, Soetoro/Obama was traveling campaigning.”
Berg’s continued response….
“We are not disputing the length of Soetoro/Obama’s Certification of Live Birth. We have copies of others’ actual Certificate of Live births from the same time period. These are two (2) completely different documents. Soetoro/Obama has never released a hard copy of any type of Certification of Live Birth or Certificate of Live Birth to anyone other than Factcheck.org, which is part of Annenberg and, yes, who Soetoro/Obama has close ties with. I am wondering what Ms. Freeze is basing her unsubstantiated statements on. Maybe she will enlighten us.
We are not questioning the British father, as we are well aware of the fact that if Soetoro/Obama was born on U.S. soil, which we do not believe, he would in fact be a U.S. “natural born” citizen. However, in fairness to Ms. Freeze, others have questioned the British citizenship of the father and claimed that even if Soetoro/Obama was born on U.S. soil, he would not be a “natural born” U.S. citizen due to his father’s foreign citizenship status. I’m going to ask again, what about Soetoro/Obama’s legal name and his Indonesian citizenship status? Ms. Freeze fails to address these very important issues. We have been unable to locate any legal documentation legally changing Soetoro’s name back to Barack H. Obama; where Soetoro/Obama relinquished his Indonesian citizenship; and/or where Soetoro/Obama reclaimed any U.S. citizenship status he may have once held. Again, hopefully Ms. Freeze will enlighten us.”
But nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
Our chief weapon is surprise… Surprise and fear… Fear and surprise…
Our two weapons are fear and surprise… and ruthless effeciency…
Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless effeciency… and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope…
Our *four*…no… *Amongst* our weapons…. Amongst our weaponry…are such elements as fear, surprise…. I’ll come in again.
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as: fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope, and nice red uniforms…
No your cat is not!
“No your cat is not!” Not now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Je1CEPkUM
I can’t help imagining Orly as the pet shop owner trying to convince the world that her case is not dead, but resting or pining for the fjords. Sorry, Orly, this case is “bereft of life, it has joined the invisble choir, it has gone to meet its maker. It is an ex-case.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyyNNPNv1a4
Nice job, Phil. The Soetoro biograhpy is archived at the U.S. Department of State.
His amended birth certicate after he was adopted, his mother’s application for his passport, his renunciation of U.S. citizenship to become an Indonesian National, his application for refugee status, etc ..
It’s all there.
Like low hanging fruit behind a wall of secrets.
Dick’s just unhappy that Santa Claus didn’t bring any of it to his Christmas tree. He’s holding out hope now for the Easter Bunny.
Sven, if you could just show us even one piece of proof, then you would be in business…How about your diplomatic consular passport theory again? Or your Indonesian refugee theory? Either of those make more sense than this nonsense that you are writing…
Why do I get the feeling that Dick’s Christmas Tree is trimmed with imaginary ornaments? Because he has brought the imaginary gifts under it here to unwrap for us? And look at that double-barreled cork gun! It shoots similes and metaphors with one pull of the trigger!
Dear dick (sic),
“Like low hanging fruit behind a wall of secrets.” ?
You speak with the imaginary authority of someone who has seen altogether too much hanging fruit, up close and personal.
so to the State Department I say, “, Mister State Department? – LEAVE….UP….THAT…WALL!
Benji Franklin
while most sit some stand if you think this is fun and games you are mistaken
It’s not a game, but it’s fun to see every birther lawsuit thrown out of court.
chufho-At what point do even YOU accept that the 60 judges who have said these “cases” have no business in court mught be on to something???
I’ll bet you’re one of those people who thinks that the health care crisis could be fixed by getting rid of “junk lawsuits”. Yet, the most inane medical malpractice suit has 100x more merit than this birther junk. At least they have real people who are suffering, even if it may be due to the luck of the draw rather than medical negligence.
Given the Birthers’ track record, I’d say it really is all fun, games, and frivolous lawsuis.
I understand Orly is now calling for armed insurrection:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/12/orly_taitz_seems_to_suggest_call_to_arms_against_o.php
Well appearing sleeveless (“bare arms”) is not the same as carrying a gun (“bear arms”). But such language from Orly is nothing new.
big surprise, DOJ filed an opposition to her motion to transfer…in part because…he’s the big surprise…the case has been dismissed, and there’s nothing left to transfer.