Birthers and immigration

Posted on April 30, 2010 by Dr. Conspiracy

Nothing profound to say. I mainly wanted to share this cartoon I bought for you look at:

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36 Responses to Birthers and immigration

  1. Lupin says:
    April 30, 2010 at 2:04 am  (Quote)

    Even crazy racist Arizona dumps on the Birthers:

    From Yahoo news:

    PHOENIX – A bill to require presidential candidates to show their birth certificates to get on Arizona’s ballot won’t win approval from state lawmakers.

    With legislators working toward adjournment of their annual session, the sponsor of the bill says it won’t get a state Senate vote because some fellow Republicans don’t support it.

    The House narrowly approved the measure last week.

    The bill is an outgrowth of some Obama critics’ doubts over whether he was born in the United States. Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama’s citizenship, and his Hawaiian birth certificate has been made public, along with newspaper birth notices.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

  2. DraggingCanoe says:
    April 30, 2010 at 5:54 am  (Quote)

    The Flags are wrong…should be the Kenya national flag. Pls fix.

  3. Scott Brown says:
    April 30, 2010 at 8:53 am  (Quote)

    Dragging – obviously you were not aware that Obama has already re-designed the American Flag. He has placed ‘HIS’ O where the stars are and the stripes are now rainbow colored.

    It should be revealed as soon as he finishes apologizing for America around the world in celebration of his being a “Citizen of the World”.

  4. Scott Brown says:
    April 30, 2010 at 8:55 am  (Quote)

    I’m thinking they weren’t dumping on the birthers. I’m thinking they realized that bill was no longer necessary now that they have the immigration bill. When Obama, or any government official shows up that has dubious citizenship issues, they’ll just ask for his/her papers – legally.

    I think the cartoon is spot on – I loved it. Thanks Dr. C.!

  5. Arthur says:
    April 30, 2010 at 9:41 am  (Quote)

    Scott Brown:

    Yeah, I’m sick of those government officials with dubious citizenship, too! Especially Arizona Senator John McCain–I hear he was born in Panama, and isn’t a natural born citizen. When he comes back to Arizona from D.C.,I hope you guys meet that undocumented worker at the airport and demand to see his birth certificate.

  6. Black Lion says:
    April 30, 2010 at 10:11 am  (Quote)

    There is nothing better than a known liar like “Scott Brown” attempting to make a joke at the expense of the President of the United States. But that tracks. Since she has been unwilling to admit what state she was born in, we can only assume that she is one of those foreigners. She might be like Sarah Palin, a Canadian. Who knows. What we do know is that since Obama has been President, the Dow and NASDAQ have rebounded, the US is looked upon favorably by other countries in the world, medical insurance is on it’s way to being revised so that some 30 million Americans can have access to coverage, and the GOP has been shown to be a bunch of xenophobic racists…But best of all despite all the birther lies and stories, he continues to have a 50% approval rating, has shown to be a great American that cares for his country, and is still the President. Which we all knows is what Scott Brown has her biggist issue with. How else can you explain her lie and subsequent refusal to address the issue. So as much as the seditious “Scott Brown” hates it, our Nobel Prize winning President, a respectful NBC and Citizen of the World, has our country in the right direction.

  7. Black Lion says:
    April 30, 2010 at 10:13 am  (Quote)

    Or Sarah Palin, who used to go to her home country of Canada to get medical attention…We still are unsure if she is a true American. But who can believe anything that the known liar “Scott Brown” says anyway….

  8. MuhommandMcLovin says:
    April 30, 2010 at 10:32 am  (Quote)

    As an uninvited guest blogger, I’d to contribute the following because it speaks to me.

    I could go back to my own blog, but I prefer OCT. OCT has much to offer and I want to participate and share in it’s success while reserving the right to leave unexpectedly to go back to my own blog or another blog altogether.

    I’ve earned the right to be acknowledged as a co-editor of OCT and I want my contributions to be recognized. It’s the only fair thing to do.

    D.C. walk a big step for students

    WASHINGTON — A group of young immigration activists who trekked 1,500 miles from Miami got the attention of the White House, but turned down a meeting with a top advisor to President Barack Obama, opting instead to hold out for the big guy.

  9. Arthur says:
    April 30, 2010 at 10:59 am  (Quote)

    Black Lion,

    You raise a good point about Sarah Palin. I’ve seen reports that Sarah is actually the love child of Canadian handyman Red Green, and that she was born in Ontario at Possum Lake City Hospital. The story goes that her adoptive dad, Chuck Heath, was staying at Green’s Possum Lodge during a walleye fishing trip. He took pity on the little illegitimate girl and decided to adopt her. The rest, so they say, is history.

  10. Black Lion says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:07 am  (Quote)

    Good article from Loren in the Atlanta Journal Constitution….It is worth the read….

    http://www.ajc.com/opinion/birther-claptrap-deserves-our-506744.html

    “The conspiracists’ favored theory is that Obama’s mother left her Honolulu home and traveled halfway around the planet to give birth in the Third World nation of Kenya in 1961. To some people, it is apparently easier to believe that our first African-American president was actually born in Africa than to believe that he was born at the local Honolulu hospital.

    When his birthplace was publicly questioned in June 2008, the Obama campaign promptly published his certification of live birth online, clearly identifying his place of birth as “Honolulu, Hawaii.”

    When online conspiracists said that was a digital forgery, FactCheck.org visited campaign headquarters and took multiple photographs of the document.

    When conspiracists demanded extrinsic evidence, two contemporary birth announcements were located in Hawaiian newspapers. And when they demanded even more, Hawaii’s vital records registrar issued a public statement saying that the president’s original vital records confirm his birth in Hawaii.

    (By contrast, what evidence did you ever see that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark.? Can you even name the state George W. Bush was born in?)

    …..

    Finally, state Rep. Mark Hatfield (R-Waycross) recently introduced House Bill 1516. Had it passed, it would have required presidential candidates to provide evidence of their constitutional eligibility in order to appear on Georgia ballots. In the abstract, such a requirement is perfectly reasonable.

    In other words, if Hatfield’s bill passed, the only candidates in the November 2012 election whose eligibility it would scrutinize would be Barack Obama and his Republican challenger. Hatfield has written a bill so narrow that the only way it could be narrower would be for it to identify Obama by name.

    Hatfield even admits his bill is targeted at Obama. He says, “I don’t think that the American people have been given any adequate documentation of the president’s citizenship.” This, even though he already has a birth certification, birth announcements and a state official’s confirmation. And to whom did he give his first public interview about his bill? Joseph Farah, the Internet’s leading birther propagandist.”

  11. Mary Brown says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:34 am  (Quote)

    I hope President Obama goes to Arizona and I dare some Sheriff to explain his business to the Secret Service or the military. Scott, it wouldn’t even be funny. Shame on you. Shame, shame, shame.

  12. richCares says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:57 am  (Quote)

    the Obama “O” flag that scot brown critizes
    right wingers ran rampant on the “O” flag, white spot on the bathroom walls, they were so excited

    turns out that flag was the Official Ohio State flag designed in 1902, so besides being a liar you are a dip$hit!

    here is image of Ohio flag dip$hit is talking about
    http://www.50states.com/flag/ohflag.htm

    go away idiot scott brown!

  13. G says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:57 am  (Quote)

    Again, lying coward Scott Brown…what state were you born in?

    Perhaps your silence means that you should avoid AZ now too or risk being deported.

  14. G says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:59 am  (Quote)

    And what country are you from “Scott Brown”?

    You must be some commie illegal alien posting here, because you can’t even tell us what state you were born in.

    Get ready to be deported, loser!

  15. G says:
    April 30, 2010 at 12:03 pm  (Quote)

    Delusional Sven says:

    As an uninvited guest blogger, I’d to contribute the following because it speaks to me.
    I could go back to my own blog, but I prefer OCT. OCT has much to offer and I want to participate and share in it’s success while reserving the right to leave unexpectedly to go back to my own blog or another blog altogether.I’ve earned the right to be acknowledged as a co-editor of OCT and I want my contributions to be recognized. It’s the only fair thing to do.

    Um, Sven…you just post crazy made up fantasy stories in the comment sections here, that’s all.

    You are a joke at best and sadly delusional if you think your made up commentary in the comments section somehow makes you a “guest blogger”. Nor have you ever had any editorial authority here.

    Keep dreaming as sadly, that seems to be all you’ve got.

  16. Mary Brown says:
    April 30, 2010 at 12:05 pm  (Quote)

    Scott, Where does your Chritianity stand in all of this. I never voted for President Bush, did not believe he was elected in 2000, but still knew that after the Supreme Court decision he was my President. Everything in my Biblical training tells me that stuff you are spouting and the disrespect you show is not Biblical. Forget those who are not believers. I am talking to you. Again, shame, shame, shame.

  17. racosta says:
    April 30, 2010 at 12:06 pm  (Quote)

    scott brown is dumb falling for the birther lies, but falling for the “O” flag story and not knowing that the “O” flag was Ohio’s state flag which was behind Obama along with an American flag while Obama was talking at a rally in Ohio, now that is really dumb.
    come on scot show us more stupidity
    scott brown = total lack of credibility

  18. richCares says:
    April 30, 2010 at 12:20 pm  (Quote)

    I was surpized by this as well, the poor guy was totally unaware of that false story on the “O” flag, where the Ohio State Flag designed in 1902 was called Obama’s flag, yet this idiot fell for the Obama flag garbage, I know scott is dumb but this takes the cake. Shouldn’t total idiots like scott brown be nominated for the Putzliler PUTZ award? He wins hands down!

  19. G says:
    April 30, 2010 at 12:42 pm  (Quote)

    The only Biblical actions that “Scott Brown” has demonstrated is in attempting to deceive.

    Hmm…who was it again who is called the Great Deceiver? …I think we know which Biblical path “Scott Brown” really follows.

  20. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    April 30, 2010 at 1:13 pm  (Quote)

    Co-editor? Not gonna happen, Sven. Not gonna happen.

  21. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    April 30, 2010 at 1:16 pm  (Quote)

    McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

  22. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    April 30, 2010 at 1:22 pm  (Quote)

    It’s not my cartoon.

  23. misha says:
    April 30, 2010 at 2:05 pm  (Quote)

    All of this BC, school records and every paper under the sun, goes back to the the fugitive slave laws passed by the United States Congress in 1793 and 1850.

  24. Mary Brown says:
    April 30, 2010 at 2:24 pm  (Quote)

    Conspiracy is everywhere. The President made sure the flag was positoned in just that way.
    Did you know he probably was responsible for the oil rig explosion and sinking? Dumb, dumber, dumbest.

  25. nbC says:
    April 30, 2010 at 3:48 pm  (Quote)

    Romans 1:22 comes to mind…

  26. DraggingCanoe says:
    April 30, 2010 at 4:05 pm  (Quote)

    My computer is warning me a trojan file is attempting to enter…this is the first time I was notified of this..since my first visit.to this site. It did not happen with previous visits to this site. Why now?

    Care to comment?

  27. G says:
    April 30, 2010 at 4:24 pm  (Quote)

    Well, personally, I’m not receiving any warnings when coming to this site. Actually, I’ve never received one when coming here nor am I experiencing any opening it up again just now.

    I’m using FireFox 3.6.3 w/ AVG. No problems.

    Maybe you picked something up on your machine when you were cruising some birther site. Orly’s site is known for being infested and I’m sure that infection spreads to others that link to or cruise her site without significant protection of their own.

  28. J. Edward Tremlett says:
    April 30, 2010 at 4:51 pm  (Quote)

    That’s no virus, Dragging – that’s the truth. It’s trying to worm its way into your computer, and then your head, at long last.

    Will you employ Birtherware to block it? Or will you let that truth set you free?

  29. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:06 pm  (Quote)

    nbc: Romans 1:22 comes to mind

    Actually in the case of Scott Brown, the scripture that comes to my mind is 1 John 1:9.

  30. nbC says:
    April 30, 2010 at 11:38 pm  (Quote)

    Very true

  31. Kathryn N says:
    May 1, 2010 at 10:34 am  (Quote)

    Sarah Palin has actually said that both her grandfathers were Canadian bootleggers. Some people say she’s lying, but who knows?

  32. richCares says:
    May 1, 2010 at 11:58 am  (Quote)

    as for Obama’s COLB, that’s the only form Hawaii issues, according to Hawaii gov site “When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth”. (COLB)
    link:
    http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl/

  33. Arizona Citizen says:
    May 1, 2010 at 12:11 pm  (Quote)

    When Shakira stated “that I am pretty much undocumented” is absolutely ridiculous. She came to our country with documents. When entering into the United States legitimately you must show your passport, which Shakira certainly did. By challenging Arpaio to come and get her because she left her passport at her 5 star hotel clearly indicates Shakira does not understand the Arizona Senate Bill 1070. By Shakria not carrying her passport or identification does not mean she will be arrested. One must engage in illegal activity to be arrested and asked for identification, which most likely Shakira will not be engaging in illegal activity. For someone to rally other individuals without fully understanding the SB 1070 is irresponsible. People (including Shakira) need to take the time to fully understand the law before grand standing to an audience who expects her to be informed. Shakira should respect the United State’s freedom of speech and should be fully educated on the law before leading an emotional charged crowd. This law is not new, it is enforcing what is already in place by the Federal Government. It is a Federal crime to be an illegal alien thus the term “illegal alien.” Crime has become an increasing problem in Arizona. The law is designed to punish criminals for being criminals not for being illegal immigrants. Which all members of our community should embrace. If the Federal Government would take illegal immigration seriously there could be alternatives for this law. But the Federal Government ignored Arizona’s immigration problem and decided they could not rely on the Federal Government for help. Arizona’s actions are directed against the members of the immigrant community that are criminals. Anyone, citizen or non-citizen, should agree that the increased violence around our boarders needs to be addressed. Immigrants and citizens need to work together to reduce crime. Shame on you Shakria for further inflaming a passionate subject that should be addressed rationally. Shame on you everyone else for not educating yourself on the SB 1070. For those of you that want to be educated you can read the full law here

  34. thisoldhippie says:
    May 1, 2010 at 1:48 pm  (Quote)

    Um, attributing the explosion of the oil rig to President Obama has already been bandied about over at Plains Radio. Sorry, you’re too late.

  35. Greg says:
    May 1, 2010 at 2:08 pm  (Quote)

    I’m reading this on a blackberry, but doesn’t 11 on the page you linked make it a crime to be on public land without your alien papers? So, leaving your papers back at the hotel makes you guilty of criminal trespass.

    Second, the law now doesn’t require you do something illegal for the police to STOP you and ask for identification (terry stop). Number 1 on your link requires the police to ask for papers on any such stop.

  36. G says:
    May 1, 2010 at 3:47 pm  (Quote)

    Of course, what you posted is NOT the full text of the law, it is just someone’s “summary” conveying their synopsis and opinion of it here.

    Here is the actual FULL TEXT of the law:

    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

    I *have* read the entire text of the bill. As a strong proponent of immigration reform, the majority of the provisions in the bill are ones I agree with. If the flaws that open the door for abuse are fixed & corrected, I’d have no problem with it.

    However, you fail to realize that the bill as written & passed has some major flaws – it does NOT require a crime to be committed in order to check someone’s papers, only “reasonable suspicion” (why don’t you actually read the provisions of article 8 -clauses B, E, & G need to be tightened up to prevent interpretive abuse -intentional or unintentional).

    With how this is currently worded and ill-defined, there definitely is a huge opening to racial profiling and abuse, which can unnecessarily lead to harassment of legal citizens & legal immigrants as well as people abusing interpretation to settle scores or pursue prejudices.

    These are fixable and addressable problems with the bill, but they are the main source of concern from a civil liberties perspective of protecting the rights of legal citizens and lawful immigrants.

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