It would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.
Pop quiz: Which federal agency is most concerned about and most diligent in enforcing the privacy of social-security numbers?
DING! Correct, the Social Security Administration.
And which federal agency is it unwise to sue with court filings containing plain text, unedited, personally identifying social security numbers? Nevertheless, our intrepid dental surgeon and sometimes attorney Orly Taitz in her lawsuit against the Social Security Administration, Tatiz v Astrue, did exactly that; the Social Security Administration noticed and objected; and the court vacated the filings telling Taitz to start over. That was June 2.
Perhaps Taitz fell asleep reading the page on the Fed. R. Civ. P. 5.2 (a)(1), about how to handle social-security numbers, at the Howard Taft online law school web site. No problem, the court reminded her and Taitz refiled her motion with the social-security numbers redacted (correctly showing only the last 4 numbers). That was June 14.
June 15 Taitz filed more motions with social-security numbers improperly redacted. The judge hinted that sanctions would have been imposed had the defendants asked for them and warned that the Court might impose sanctions on its own if it happened again. A clearly displeased judge said: “…wasting the Court’s time is not the way for plaintiff to have any hope of prevailing in this case.”
Wow! That’ll teach her! (not) After some wrangling over who filed what Taitz, in the words of the court, made a “somewhat hysterical claim in her motion for consideration that there may be ‘an employee in this court, who is intentionally sabotaging’ her…” What followed on July 22 was another Taitz attempt to file yet another motion with improperly redacted social-security numbers. The court wrote:
Plaintiff is either toying with the court or displaying her own stupidity.
While no monetary sanctions were imposed in the July 25 order from Judge Royce C. Lamberth, the Court’s order is clearly a public humiliation.
Judge Lamberth fogblows Taitz:
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2011cv0402-30
“Plaintiff is either toying with the Court or displaying her own stupidity.”
I think we have found a new quote of the Dr.!
is judge lamberth taking bets?
But, alas, he did nothing to Taitz. I’m actually amazed at the patience the court has shown in this case – as he points out this is the third or fourth time she’s done this – and since she’s done it correctly in the past it’s either immense stupidity or she’s doing it deliberately…yet the court continues to let her refile motion after motion.
She won’t learn until sanctioned, and to be honest, not even then.
Judge Royce Lambert appears to dumb and not very understanding.
Judge Lambert is baffled by Orly’s behavior and can’t seem to understand it. However, Judge Lambert should have easily concluded that based her previous motions, Orly Taitz seems to have trouble assimilating the English language. It would appear that this latest act by Orly demonstrates that she having trouble comprehending the English language. The court could offer to allow Orly language accommodations by providing the court rules and motions in her native language. So far, Judge Lambert has made no attempt at this accommodation.
A good defense from Orly is that she demand that court provide language accomodation in her native language.
You’re funny.
Personally I’d like to see Judge Royce Lambert write everything in Russian. I assume Orly is fluent in Russian. Orly should demand that court accommodate her.
Orly Taitz passed the California Bar Exam, IN ENGLISH.
Judge Lamberth said in writing to Orly a year ago while dismissing her quo warranto claim against the President: “This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that the President is not a “natural born citizen,” as is required by the Constitution. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.
Taitz v Obama(QW), April 14, 2010
I agree. All Orly court proceedings should be in Russian.
Then we can have honest headlines such as “Foreign Russian woman attempts to overthrow US constitution. Calls President a fraud.”
That should help her publicity and fund raising a lot.
Ironically, Obama is more of an American that Taitz is and they call her “Lady Liberty.”
Make it so.
While I’m sure it must have happened before, this is the first time I have ever personally seen a Judge call a lawyer stupid. This is from Orly Taitz’s FOIA action in the DC Federal Court. He calls her stupid… and drops some pretty strong hints to the defendants that if they want him to sanction her, he’s itchin’ to comply.
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2011cv0402-30
Worst. Lawyer. Ever.
I can see Taitz having one of her fits against, claiming to be a victim.
She’s her own worst enemy.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!
All your Opposition to MSJ are belong to us!
I ran into this crowd all the time in Israel. They spend their day licking their wounds. Orly and Lieberman win Grand Prize.
If you want to run out of breath, just spend one hour reading about Avigdor Lieberman’s antics. Lieberman was a bouncer before he got himself elected, so nothing is beyond your imagination.
Of course, Lieberman is a Settler. Gotta show ’em who’s boss.
To borrow a phrase from Down Under: send this wallaby back, Jack.
The whole world is out to get Orly Taitz.
I guess the judge must like having his own court jester?
Orly knows very well that she redacted the social security numbers incorrectly. When it was pointed out in comments at her blog that she should redact the first 5 numbers, she replied that she couldn’t because then the judge wouldn’t be able to tell that the social security number originated in Conneticut.
There was another document posted at the Fogbow that he was holding her ‘papers’ for possible sanctions. We can only hope that the defense requests them or the judge imposes them on his own.
You’re so right, John. This xxx-xx-1234 is very difficult to understand. 😉
O.K. Then Orly’s declaration to the court should be:
Я и´иот. Я не ´олжен быть юристом.
Orly may have good defense about the SSN#s. If she follows Judge Lambert’s order, the plantiffs can make the argument that there is no evidence that Obama’s SSN was issued in CT because the SSN has been redacted from the record. Therefore, as matter of record and evidence, Orly must show the first numbers of Obama’s SSN and following Judge Lambert’s order taints her case.
That’s silly.
Orly can file unredacted numbers under seal, plus her case isn’t about where Obama got his social-security number anyway. The only thing the court will decide is whether she’s entitled to a class of information under the Freedom of Information Act. Any particular claim about what is in the information is irrelevant.
Monetary sanctions mean nothing to Orly. She will just get her super rich hubby or her minions to pay them. What needs to happen is her being flagged as someone who needs permission from the court before filing any cases. (I can’t come up with the term just now) This is how they deal with prisoners who have nothing better to do than file cases and appeals all day long.
john asks that Taitz be permitted to make her filings in Russian. Of course it is implausible that he gives a crap about accomodating people who don’t speak English, but it does raise an interesting question.
Are Federal Court filings required to be in English? I can’t find that in the FRCP.
Perhaps it has something to do with Taitz being a pro se plaintiff in this case.
Orly would, of course, say that they are scared of her.
Thanks for the clarification on that. I was going to ask a question about that, and know I understand. Now, I want to know how Taitz passed the bar.
But this case has nothing to do with that. This comes in up many birther cases – they have a case involving A, and just hope the mere existence of the case will allow them to broach the subject of B. Hasn’t worked yet and it won’t. Orly doesn’t really care about the FOIA request – what she clearly wants is to use it to gain discovery of records completely irrelevant to the case.
They wanted Obama’s birth info for Lakin’s case – it wasn’t relevant to the case. Orly tried to subpoena it for this case – Hawaii will ignore it and will either get it quashed or Orly will fail on a motion to compel because his birth certificate is irrelevant to whether or not FOIA was applied properly.
Affirmative action?
DO ALL THESE GOVT LAWYERS AND GOVT WORKERS KNOW THAT THEY COULD FACE TREASON CHARGES ALONG WITH ILLEGAL OBAMA FOR COVERING UP RECORDS OR INTERFERING WITH JUSTICE. YOU HAVE A DUTY TO TURN IN TREASONOUS PEOPLE. EVEN IF ITS YOUR BOSS. WHEN THE HOUSE OF CARDS STARTS TO COME APART THEN YOU WILL SEE ALL THE RATS JUMP SHIP LIKE IN WATERGATE. NIXON DIDNT KNOW OF THE WATERGATE BREAK IN BUT GOT CAUGHT UP IN THE COVER-UP. 1) OBAMA HAS A GREEN BIRTH CERTIFICATE-THE ONLY PERSON IN HAWAII TO GET ONE- IF THEY EVER SENT ONE TO HIM -EVERYONE ELSE GETS A BLACK AND WHITE COPY—THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER PROCESSED AND SENT A BLACK AND WHITE COPY. 2) OBAMAS BIRTH CERT HAS 1961 TYPE MIXED WITH 2011 COMPUTER GENERATED KERNED LETTERS WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE ON A 1961 TRUE DOCUMENT. 3 OBAMAS MOTHERS SIGNATURE ANN DUNHAM IS SIGNED ON A PERFECTLY STRAIGHT LINE-IMPOSSIBLE ,ONLY A COMPUTER CAN DO THAT. 4) OBAMA IS USING A STOLEN SOC SEC NUMBER 042-68-4425- STOLEN FROM A DECEASED CONN MAN. ENOUGH EVIDENCE????
Might I suggest a change in your medications?
You also might want to take your computer keyboard in for a check up. It appears the caps lock is stuck except when you type your name.
Of what?
Where is e. e. cummings when needed?
I tend to agree that Judge Lambert [sic] is really overreacting in concern of a violation of a Federal Rule. The SSN that Orly has failed to redacted in plastered all over the internet and therefore really no concern can be made in the implications of nonredacted SSN. I think Judge Lambert is just toying with Orly.
[John is now safely back in moderation, but this comment … 🙄 Doc.]
Funny how these morons really believe we are governement lawyers. One would think they would bother to look up the definition of “treason.” Let’s see, who is committting treason here. Birthers encouraging military members to disobey the commander in chief in time of war. That comes pretty close. Undermining the authority of the commander in chief based upon self-proclaimed experts on the internet or frivolous legal theories. Pretty close. The constant call for military coups on birther blogs since all the courts and legislative bodies just laugh at them. Probably there.
I’m sure Judge Lamberth is deepplly concerned about your opinion, john …
I hope you calm down and are feeling better soon. I Just wanted to ask if you had some particular deceased man in mind, or if you just refer to some generalized conceptual deceased person. Perhaps the person is not deceased at all, but was a space alien who landed in Connecticut and obtained a social-security number before returning to space — this would explain why no one has noticed their social security account having unusual activity.
You are aware, no doubt, that the Social Security Administration publishes the names and social-security numbers of deceased persons, and the putative Obama number you listed isn’t in there.
I think you should stick to the space alien theory. It explains nothing, just like your deceased person theory, but it is much harder to disprove.
What a highly creative and stupid remark!
All certified copies of Hawaiian birth certificates issued in recent times are on the same green basket weave paper.
See:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/sun-yat-sen-dh-1.jpg
http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/205497_1646821495774_1394022018_31363733_2189254_n.jpg
No it doesn’t.
FOGBLOW!
Cap Locks. I am blind.
No, it isn’t perfectly straight.
FOGBLOW!
nice reference
“To like an individual because he’s black is just as insulting as to dislike him because he isn’t white.”
e. e. cummings
alex j deserves some credit for fitting roughly half a dozen birther points into one short paragraph. Very economical. Kinda odd to go all-caps while exclaiming on typing tech, tho. A very blatant, “LOOK AT ME! I DON’T KNOW WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!”
Sorry, that’s still no defense. She could move to file an unredacted copy under seal. There is still no excuse for her not following the Fed. R. of Civ. P.
They believe that it is very effective. Make accusations and cruise in for the win. It all reminds me of under age kids trying to sneak by the bouncer in the movies. Maybe for them this is all one big movie.
I’m sorry, can you point out the exception in the Fed. R. Civ. P. that says you don’t have to redact if the number is plastered all over the internet? that’s right. There is none. The Federal Rules of Civil Procedure are rules to be filed by all parties with business before the court. They are not merely guidelines or suggestions. Failure to follow the rules can lead to her action being dismissed. The judge was being nice.
I’m pretty sure Nixon knew about and approved of everything that the Watergate burglars were up to. Unfortunately, the lesson Republicans learned from Watergate was not “don’t break the law” but “don’t get caught. Thus was born the conservative doctraine of Plausible Deniability. Reagan “didn’t know” weapons were being traded for hostages. Bush “didn’t know” that a CIA agent was outed. Those poor chief executives just didn’t know.
Hilarious!
Another monkey hurling feces from the birther cage.
Have a banana.
Are you really that stupid?
No, she should be Disbarred.
Produce the evidence!
You can’t because you have NONE!
That wouldn’t prevent her from filing pro se.
The other document is here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/60913629/TAITZ-v-ASTRUE-USDC-D-C-29-ORDER-to-seal-Opposition-to-Motion-for-Summary-Judgment-gov-uscourts-dcd-146770-29-0?in_collection=2874577
My read is that Judge Lamberth would prefer to have the government ask for sanctions. If he does it sua sponte it will just encourage Orly to claim that Judge Lamberth is out to get her.
This has caught the attention of the LegalTimes blog.
http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2011/07/dc-judge-rebukes-birther-lawyer-for-filing-errors.html
Maybe according to Birfer History!
But in reality Nixon knew, and the cover-up is what did him in.
You forget that a lot of us here were alive for Watergate!
Oops, quoted wrong person.
And watched the Quemoy/Matsu debate and read the fine coverage in Time when it was a decent news magazine.
So, it wasn’t only me that was blinded by all the caps. Now, I feel much better.
If a court deems you a vexatious litigant, you cannot file a lawsuit without the court’s approval. “King of the Birthers” Andy Martin is well aware is this (he’s not allowed to file in any federal court).
Yes, that’s the term I was looking for. Thanks.
I had to laugh at that, because I brought up Quemoy and Matsu in the seventh grade while participating in a JFK v. Nixon debate. It was a big deal in 1960, mostly forgotten now.
Orly has responded. And she is writing a book!
Things are not what they seem, I have a record of all the phone conversations with the DC court, as well as records of all the faxes and e-mails sent to them
Some employees of the DC court are lying to the judge. I kept record of all the phone calls, faxes and e-mails to the DC court and I have multiple witnesses as well. Some employee or employees of the DC court is/are lying and will be held accountable. On 07.21.2011 a fax was accepted in the DC court and was hand carried to the chambers of the chief judge. Sua sponte decision of the court on 07.21.2011 allowing me to resubmit the opposition was related to the fax received.
I will resubmit the opposition and memorandum in support of the opposition to motion for summary judgment yet again. It will be done today. Seal means, that you cannot see it on the electronic docket, but the documents are there and will be considered. The seal will be removed, hopefully tomorrow.
A lot is going on right now. Currently I am concentrating on doing everything I possibly can to inspect the original BC in HI and the original SSA application for Connecticut SSN 042-68-4425, which Obama is fraudulently using. So far there is no formal opposition from HI and the Department of Justice did not file a reply to my opposition brief. Both Attorney General of HI and the US attorney for the District of Columbia are out of time to file. I am not sure what is the explanation for lack of opposition on their part: maybe, they think that the fix is in or maybe they are afraid to be prosecuted later for the obstruction of Justice and aiding and abetting the SSA fraud or maybe there is some technical glitch. Another legal action will be filed soon.
I will provide more information later. It also will be a part of my book, that will be coming out later. The book is tentatively titled “from the queen of the birthers. Secrets and intrigue behind the crime of the century”
I wonder if her book will be in Russian.
The above note should be almost all in italics. Only the first and last lines are mine; the rest is pure Orly.
I really hope that you wrote “I wonder if her book will be in Russian.”
A more accurate title for her book would be:
“Obama is a great big poopy head”
Like you said, Dr. Conspiracy – it would be funny if it were not so pathetic……….
Far too intellectual for the intended audience.
It should be written in Esperanto. It would garner a larger audience.
Or they could try this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGZV6fsotYo
And of course she gives out the SSN again. I know it’s just on her site and not part of a filing but it really is like giving a big middle finger to the court. All she wants is to publicize that number and she doesn’t realize that said publicizing is why he now seems to have a new one.
Thanx for the clarification, although in reality, it wasn’t all that hard to separate the Orly from the Sane
I’m surprised she hasn’t gotten a license plate with the number.
Another amusing this is that she doesn’t seem to realize that the SSN validator website is not affiliated with the U.S. government and what she finds there doesn’t prove anything. That said, the website is once again showing that Obama’s SSN is valid and was issued in 1976 or 1977.
http://www.ssnvalidator.com/default.aspx
Hey, are you calling me sane? Well, I suppose in comparison to Orly…
CONSPIRACY!!! They’re ALL in on it!
Next she’ll want to sue the coders of the web server s/w.
Why, oh why do totally innocent trees need to be sacrificed for her paranoia? Killing bits, bytes & nibbles is bad enough, but trees too?
On her website she has posted that she is resubmitting the Opposition with “different redaction”. She is implying that she was ordered to redact all but the last 4 digits. She is such an idiot. This is NOT going to win her any friends in DC.
It’s a pop-up book. She holding her signings at Toys Я Us.
Change that to “ordered to redact the last 4 digits”. Sorry.
Taitz defies logic. The judge is very well aware of her antics. I will say the sanction will be $250.
If she gets sanctioned it will be more than that. She has accused the clerk of not filing her supposed docs, accused the judge of misinforming her how to redact, not really doing the reaction, multiple times. This is gross insubordination and should not be tolerated. To let this go reflects badly on the Court that people can get away with anything. She doesn’t even apologize for her mistakes.
Taitz is “Lady Liberty” and Toys Я Us has a backward R (and Misha knows how to find the character…). Maybe we have been taking over by the Russians and do not realize it. Conspiracy! Conspiracy!
I feel like an all caps moment may soon overwhelm me soon.
I took a look at Orly’s exhibits in Taitz v. Astrue, and she actually got the information that Obama’s SSN was never issued in a response to an inquiry she made with the Social Security Number Verification Service. The problem there is that Orly violated Federal law by using the SSNVS, which is only to be used by employers to verify that the names and SSNs of employees match SSA records.
Anyone who knowingly and willfully uses SSNVS to request or obtain information from Social Security under false pretenses violates Federal law and may be punished by a fine, imprisonment or both.
I seem to recall that at some point Orly claimed that Obama is her “employee” because she is a taxpayer, but the SSNVS site says this:
Social Security will verify SSNs and names solely to ensure the records of current or former employees are correct for the purpose of completing an Internal Revenue Service Form W-2 (Wage and Tax Statement).
A current employee is defined as a person who has received and accepted a job offer.
Somehow I doubt that there is any prospect that Orly will ever be completing a W-2 form for Obama.
http://www.ssa.gov/employer/ssnvspamphlet.htm
Of course, the most likely explanation for the information that Obama’s SSN was not in the system is that when Obama obtained a new SSN, a clerk at the SSA erroneously deleted his old number from the system.
My understanding is that the illegal access to the SSA system was perpetrated by Greg Hollister rather than Orly Taitz. For evidence see:
http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/social-security-number/
[Scroll down, the hyperlink to Hollister doesn’t work.]
Doc, now I recall that it was Hollister who claimed that Obama is his “employee.” So does this make Orly an accessory after the fact?
Do you fantasize about spanking him too, John? Or is it only female Federal Judges that you have Nazi punishment fantasies about?
I wouldn’t surprise me if Orly Taitz (if she hasn’t) include that quote in her filings.
I do remember Hollister using that excuse, among others. The idea that a taxpayer is the “employer” and entitled to everything is ridiculous. In a corporation, shareholders are the “employer” but they do not get to rifle through all of the CEO’s information. That is reserved to HR and the Board (or the designated personnel committee).
This story continues to have legs within the legal community with this latest article at CourtHouse News Service:
http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/07/28/38543.htm
Orly apparently is upping the crazy factor. She is going on a roadtrip with Vogt and Irey to Hawaii.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=327373
This should be interesting.
A comedy of errors. This what happens when you get a lawyer of Taitz stature.
H’mmm, wonder who is paying for this exercise in legal FAIL..?
And her “expert” is Irey. OK, who has the popcorn concession on this one?
We need to have a law against transporting “stupid” across state lines.
If you read the comments at WND by Vogt and Irey, they have already concluded that the original is a forgery. Can’t WND just buy them a pineapple and save the expense of a trip?
Hopefully there will be video of the attempted “service” of their “subpoena”. Somehow, I don’t think there will be. Will they attempt to get an officer of the court? Or just waltz in and start firing off zany demands?
I would like to believe that this trip is fiction–after all, if really serious, where’s Corsi? Is this not to be his moment of Geraldo-style triumph? Vogt from WA, Taitz from CA, and Irey from wherever are really hauling computer equipment to Hawaii? Retiree internet warriors are now globetrotting crusaders for truth?
WND will simply post a write-up regaling us with how The System stonewalled them….or conveniently never mention it again. It’s yet another “next week” promise.
it already has a soundtrack……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
They conveniently have forgotten the lesson of Wally in TN. Should be fun.
I can’t wait for the show! Seems she doesn’t understand that all she can do, IF it were a valid subpoena, is to show up with a court reporter and put on the record that no one from the DOH showed. Then she would have to file a motion to compel. Have you noticed that the subpoena is for the birth cert of BARACK OBAMA III? All they have to do is say, we don’t have one. That’s going to be really fun.
Actually I think there probably will be. Birthers are nothing if not insanely confident. I have no doubt there’ll be cameras there for the birthers to document their “triumph”
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That’s rich! LOL!