The occasional open thread: Sisyphean quest edition

Posted on April 27, 2012 by Dr. Conspiracy

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123 Responses to The occasional open thread: Sisyphean quest edition

  1. bob j says:
    April 27, 2012 at 12:57 am

    Since the open thread is anew, I hope it is okay to post my questios for Rambo Ike here.

    bob jApril 26, 2012 at 11:51 pm (Quote)#

    Okay, Rambo Ike. Thank-you for answering the question I posed. There are still some things that confuse me.

    Were there any official connection between the supporters of Obama, and the campaign?

    I don’t recall any kind of backlash against McCain for running against Obama.

    Are you extrapolating a small minority of supporters, who may have acted in the way you describe.?After all each side has extremists.

    I have not misrepresented what you stated. I have asked for your clarification. If you can read your own post, and fail to see the connection you made, then I am at a loss. Your own connection is awkward, at best.

    As for people who don’t believe Obama, are you talking about people who don’t think he was born in Hawaii?

    Rambo Ike: The thread, Zee Big Lie, is a classic example of when the 0bama supporters address subjects other than Birther issues, they become completely lost, and have no idea of the core facts or what the truth is.

    Again, I don’t want to put words into your post, but does this mean that the President’s supporters who address birthers are right? I know plenty of people who think the President has done a good job. But that gets into politics, which is not the crux of this site.

    What is the President’s role in your analogy?

    For the record, I am not an Obama supporter. I admire the President, as I do every President, but I love my country more than any President.

  2. Northland10 says:
    April 27, 2012 at 8:00 am

    As bad as you and some others were I found that Northland10 took 1st prize with his insertion of the red herring “Woods Fund” to change up the subject matter and tell an outright lie.

    Rambo brought up Woods Fund to which I pointed out the mission of the group. Exactly how is pointing out their mission to help people in the community, a big lie? The response was to counter the direct statement used by Mr. Rambo that conflated any service together on a Foundation Board to some nefarious scheme or “association.”

    Sorry Doc, for continuing this, but I thought, in light of being accused of some outright lie, I should explain myself. If you wish to halt this discussion, that is fine with me.

  3. Majority Will says:
    April 27, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Northland10: Rambo brought up Woods Fund to which I pointed out the mission of the group.Exactly how is pointing out their mission to help people in the community, a big lie?The response was to counter the direct statement used by Mr. Rambo that conflated any service together on a Foundation Board to some nefarious scheme or “association.”

    Sorry Doc, for continuing this, but I thought, in light of being accused of some outright lie, I should explain myself.If you wish to halt this discussion, that is fine with me.

    You guys would get a more honest, constructive discussion from a moldy sponge.

  4. Paul Pieniezny says:
    April 27, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Majority Will: You guys would get a more honest, constructive discussion from a moldy sponge.

    Ah, but to be fair, that is only because moldy sponges understand legal issues better than your average birther.

  5. bob j says:
    April 27, 2012 at 10:55 am

    It seems that birthers have big mouths and no memories, so they feel they can write anything they want and when they forget it; it was never said.

    The semantic gymnastic display by Rambo Ike over the last couple of weeks would wipe the grin off Mary Lou, but he did give this gem;

    bob j: Rambo Ike: The thread, Zee Big Lie, is a classic example of when the 0bama supporters address subjects other than Birther issues, they become completely lost, and have no idea of the core facts or what the truth is

    Part of why I come to this site is the honest nature of the people here. At least the ones who will admit when they are wrong. For the ones who try to talk them self into being right by changing the subject, I have little patience.

    I do apologize for my role in keeping this particular thread going. Since Rambo Ike doesn’t seem to have any sense of honor, honesty, or intellectual integrity ( instead throwing out incendiary comments with no basis in fact) I shall merely laugh to myself, and refrain from the submit button, when the next whopper comes out.

  6. JPotter says:
    April 27, 2012 at 11:25 am

    Majority Will: You guys would get a more honest, constructive discussion from a moldy sponge.

    You could kill the mold on the sponge by wetting it, and then nuking it.

    But it will smell godawful. Probably best to throw it away.

  7. Majority Will says:
    April 27, 2012 at 11:38 am

    JPotter: You could kill the mold on the sponge by wetting it, and then nuking it.

    But it will smell godawful. Probably best to throw it away.

    And don’t let the dog chew on it. It will make her sick.

  8. Majority Will says:
    April 27, 2012 at 11:38 am

    Paul Pieniezny: Ah, but to be fair, that is only because moldy sponges understand legal issues better than your average birther.

    Fair is fair.

  9. Daniel says:
    April 27, 2012 at 12:28 pm

    Paul Pieniezny: Ah, but to be fair, that is only because moldy sponges understand legal issues better than your average birther.

    Would that be a synthetic sponge? Or Natural Born? 😉

  10. Dave says:
    April 27, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    ORYR has a story about the TN ballot challenge by the Liberty Legal Foundation, in which they get all excited about something the judge said. In my view, their excitement is poorly founded. The article is Judge Wants Definition of Natural Born Citizen: Obama’s Eligibility Important and Not Trivial.

    The background is that the defendant removed the case from state to federal court, and LLF moved that it be remanded back to state court. The judge disagreed. In his denial of the motion he patiently and tediously detailed why the case must stay in federal court. Which is basically that the LLF claims the case turns on the definition of NBC, the definition of NBC is a federal question, LLF disagrees with the defendant on the definition of NBC, and the this issue is not a trivial side issue of the litigation.

    Here’s how the LLF has taken this: “The Court’s statements strongly imply that it has already decided many of the issues that usually lead to procedural dismissals, and that it has decided them in our favor.”

    Birthers are experts at setting themselves up for disappointment.

  12. Paul Pieniezny says:
    April 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Daniel: Would that be a synthetic sponge? Or Natural Born?

    A sponge who/that (depends on sea or land sponge) lets the judge do the talking. Will beat the Putz every time.

  13. Dave B. says:
    April 27, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    I keep seeing the Cold Case Posse’s material being referred to as the result of an actual investigation, in spite of the lack of evidence that a qualified investigator participated. Not to mention the participation of those individuals who have no business going anywhere near an actual investigation, except as its subject, like Jerome Corsi and Mara Zebest; and the wacky methods engaged in by all concerned. The question I really want an answer to is Why Zullo? What’s he ever done? In pursuance of that matter, I have come up with a new slogan:
    Mike Zullo, Release Your Records! or MZRYR, for short. ZRYR, even shorter.

  14. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    April 27, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Most of the time when a county sheriff announces an investigation and the finding of “probable cause” it actually means something significant. Sheriff Joe is a special case, but I don’t blame folks taking him seriously.

    Dave B.: I keep seeing the Cold Case Posse’s material being referred to as the result of an actual investigation, in spite of the lack of evidence that a qualified investigator participated.

  15. Northland10 says:
    April 27, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    JPotter: You could kill the mold on the sponge by wetting it, and then nuking it.

    But it will smell godawful. Probably best to throw it away.

    Really, not much different from out BIrther.

  16. gorefan says:
    April 28, 2012 at 11:39 am

    For those interested in going down memory lane:

    http://www.ballot-access.org/2008/03/11/california-voter-wants-court-to-declare-mccain-ineligible/

    It is a brief blurb on what may be the first eligiblity lawsuit from March 11th, 2008;

    Inland Empire Voters and Andrew Aames v USA

    challenging McCain’s eligiblity.

    The comments are interesting and one actually states

    “If anything it is Obama who may NOT be a *natural-born citizen* since his father was a citizen of Kenya when Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.” posted March 11th, 2008

  17. donna says:
    April 29, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    birther/conspiracy alert:

    Death of L.A. County coroner technician fires up conspiracy theorists

    A longtime technician in the Los Angeles County Coroner’s office has died. He was 61. What makes it suspicious? He was “seemingly healthy,” yet “suddenly stricken” and he may have died from arsenic poisoning. And he died last week –the same week Andrew Brietbart’s autopsy report was released.

    The story drew conspiracy theorists to the L.A. Times comment section. Said one:

    The quickest way to commit suicide? Know some dirt on the government, and even think about putting it out to the public.

    Other comments:

    Obama Death Toll (so far)….. 3 gay choir members at Trinity Church in Chicago, where Obama attended Rev Wright’s sermons for twenty years. Plus one Kam Kuwata (Democrat Strategist and Dianne Feinstein best friend) who went missing and was found 2 weeks later, dead inside his Venice Beach home. Plus Andrew Breitbart who died “of natural causes” in LA. And NOW, the LA Coroner who (possibly) helped investigate Breitbart’s death gets poisoned to death with arsenic, the same week the Breitbart autopsy report is due for release!

    Bottom line, Andrew was killed right before spilling the beans on Obama, The Obama story first released after Andrews death on Hannity was nothing more than a cut an edit (cover up) of nothing new. The coroner was poisoned to prevent him spilling the beans.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/death-of-l-a-county-coroner-technician-fires-up-conspiracy-theorists

  18. Lucas D. Smith says:
    April 29, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    Dear regarded readers of the Obama Conspiracy Theories website,

    I have published a new blog report regarding Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama!

    “Straight party voting. That’s not my type of party.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/barrack-obama-eligibility/straight-party-voting-thats-not-my-type-of-party/

    Please exercise your free speech in the comments section below the blog report. There are no stipulations of political correctness on this blog. Speak your mind, give us your thoughts, both objective and subjective. Share your ideas, hunches, inklings or your expertise. Please provide recommendation and corrections if you spot errors in fact within the blog report. Lastly, remember that posting a comment is much like casting a vote, so please do so. Thank you.

  19. Keith says:
    April 29, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    donna: The quickest way to commit suicide? Know some dirt on the government, and even think about putting it out to the public.

    So why is Butterdezillion and Farah and Corzi and Donofrio and Taitz and … still alive?

    donna: The Obama story first released after Andrews death on Hannity was nothing more than a cut an edit (cover up) of nothing new.

    Whoa, Brietbart died on Hannity? Has anybody examined the bubbly bottles in Hannity’s Green Room? Or do you just mean his routine went over like a lead balloon? Was it lead poisoning?

    donna: The coroner was poisoned to prevent him spilling the beans.

    Let me get this straight… a coroner’s lab technician figured out what Breitbart was going to expose from examining the bodily fluids of his corpse?

  20. RuhRoh says:
    April 29, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    Am I the only one who feels it is not only distasteful, but irresponsible, to joke about suicide and the most efficacious methods of committing it?

  21. Suranis says:
    April 29, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Soooo… they think the guy was killed to prevent the release of a coroners report that was already released or was released anyway and said not a thing?

  22. nbc says:
    April 29, 2012 at 9:20 pm

    He was not a coroner but a technician. They do not know if he even worked on the Breitbart case and they have no idea why he died.

    Pure, unadulterated speculation…

    Bunch of losers.

  23. donna says:
    April 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    thanks for the giggles, all

    lol i report, you decide

    the link is under “Crackpots and Conspiracy Thoiries”

  24. Scientist says:
    April 30, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Lucas D. Smith: Dear regarded readers of the Obama Conspiracy Theories website,
    I have published a new blog report regarding Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama!

    Well, Lucas, very revealing. A birther admits that he would vote for “an ineligible Obama” over Rmoney; that is, if he were able to vote. It goes along with what I have believed from the beginning. It is not and never was about eligibility, but simply about not liking Obama for one or another reason (ideology, race, party, White Sox fan) and looking for an excuse rather than simply being honest.

    But let’s all be honest-elections in the US come down to a binary choice in the end. How many could not imagine a candidateso awful that they would vote for an opponent whom they believed to be ineligible? Imagine a race between David Duke and Jennifer Granholm or Madeline Albright- wouldn’t the naturalized citizens be the obviously preferable choice?

  25. JPotter says:
    April 30, 2012 at 9:32 am

    donna: Death of L.A. County coroner technician fires up conspiracy theorists

    Donna, there’s an ongoing thread at Amazon, re” Breitbart conspiracies, pretty much a one-man show by a guy obsessed with Fashion Furryness and The Tragic Death Bartholomew Andbart. He keeps laying out elaborate claims about what did/didn’t kill AB, but doesn’t commit to any particular conspiracy explaining who dunnit (boooo).

    Any, he, too has tried to push the ‘guy died of arsenic poisoning, must be connected’ meme, but so far as presented no connection beyond that he was a coroner in the LA area.

    http://www.amazon.com/your-amusement-Obama-Breitbart-Killed/forum/Fx3O0GUS5OOQ7GV/Tx8YDXSWB2T9BG/1/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&asin=1936488299

  26. Thrifty says:
    April 30, 2012 at 11:12 am

    Interesting article at Cracked.com: 5 Ways to Spot a BS Political Story in Under 10 Seconds.

    There’s a paragraph at the end that really hits home for me and explains why I don’t get into political debates. I have my beliefs and vote for the candidate I think is best and don’t care to discuss it with anyone.

    I’m telling you from experience, watching political races this way is addictive as shit. You have thousands of years of violent tribal instincts pumping through your veins, itching for a fight. That makes you an easy tool for manipulation, and every good politician and pundit knows how to push those buttons to make people march neatly in formation.

    Don’t succumb. Or else you’ll start supporting the most bullshit legislation just because your guy is for it. Or you’ll start knee-jerk rejecting anything the other “team” proposes. Not because it’s bad for the country, but because you want to deny them a “win.”

    It’s a poisonous way of thinking. It will lower your IQ, it will rot your ability to think critically about the subjects that really matter. It’s bad for you, it’s bad for democracy, it’s bad for the world. You have to be better and smarter than the person they think you are. Or else we’re all fucked.

    I think I realized this when I got into a particularly nasty discussion on the controversial Wisconsin union busting law. I didn’t really understand the issue, nor am I affected by it (since I live in Delaware and don’t work for the public sector), but I felt this urge to fight for it because I wanted to support my team and crush the other team. I found myself saying some really nasty things that I regret to a guy on the other team, which makes me feel really bad because he’s a real nice guy.

  27. JPotter says:
    April 30, 2012 at 1:30 pm

    Coupla books I just came across … haven’t read them yet (how’s that for an endorsement!), but they look promising enough to share. Just heard an author interview with Gross, looking into that tome somewhat ironically lead me to the other title!

    The Last Myth: What the Rise of Apocalyptic Thinking Tells Us About America
    Mathew Barrett Gross

    It’s Even Worse Than It Looks: How the American Constitutional System Collided With the New Politics of Extremism
    Thomas E. Mann, Norman J. Ornstein
    5/1/2012

  28. misha says:
    April 30, 2012 at 1:54 pm

    donna: The coroner was poisoned to prevent him spilling the beans.

    So he did amount to a hill of beans.

  29. sfjeff says:
    April 30, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    The coroner was poisoned to prevent him spilling the beans.

    You would think they might want to kill quite a few others then….

    And arsenic poison? Probably the easiest poison to detect….so lets review the mind of the Conspiracy theorist….guy at coroners office dies- it must have been Arsenic poisoning! and it must have been for a reason…because after all…if you are trying to cover something up…you kill one of dozens if not hundreds of coroner employees, and do it by the easiest method to detect by the very department he worked at.

    It is more likely that he was killed by squirrels.

  30. Thomas Brown says:
    April 30, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    sfjeff: It is more likely that he was killed by squirrels.

    Aw, he’s no fun… he fell right over!

  31. JPotter says:
    April 30, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    The only reason the death was not noticed …. was that he had been nailed there. Looked like the poor guy was still there, just working away. Pining you might say.

  32. Keith says:
    April 30, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    JPotter:
    The only reason the death was not noticed …. was that he had been nailed there. Looked like the poor guy was still there, just working away. Pining you might say.

    The top of my bucket list is to rewrite that sketch and make it “The Dead Claret” sketch.

    I just can’t get past:

    A customer enters a bottle shop.

    Mr. Praline: ‘Ello, I wish to register a complaint.

    (The owner does not respond.)

    Mr. Praline: ‘Ello, Miss?

    Owner: What do you mean “miss”?

    Mr. Praline: I’m sorry, I have a cold. I wish to make a complaint!

    Owner: We’re closin’ for lunch.

    Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this claret what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.

    Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Chateau Mongolian…What’s,uh…What’s wrong with it?

    Mr. Praline: I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it, my lad. ‘E’s dead, that’s what’s wrong with it!

    Owner: No, no, ‘e’s uh,…he’s resting.

    Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead claroe when I see one, and I’m looking at one right now.

    Owner: No no he’s not dead, he’s, he’s restin’! Remarkable vintage the Chateay Mongolian, idn’it, ay? Beautiful bouquet!

    Mr. Praline: The bouquet don’t enter into it. It’s stone dead.

    Owner: Nononono, no, no! ‘E’s resting!

  33. Lucas D. Smith says:
    April 30, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    Dear readers of the OCT website,

    A couple of new blog reports published at WOBIK:

    “Part 2 of Obot speculation of recent forgery in my US Passport.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/barrack-obama-eligibility/part-2-of-obot-speculation-of-recent-forgery-in-my-us-passport/

    “New Obama campaign video. Interestingly he doesn’t talk about Mitt Romney. Perhaps Obama is using the law of attraction.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/obama-news/new-obama-campaign-video-interestingly-he-doesnt-talk-about-mitt-romney-perhaps-obama-is-using-the-law-of-attraction/

    Please exercise your free speech in the comments section below. There are no stipulations of political correctness on this blog. Speak your mind, give us your thoughts, both objective and subjective. Share your ideas, hunches, inklings or your expertise. Please provide recommendation and corrections if you spot errors in fact within the blog report. Lastly, remember that posting a comment is much like casting a vote, so please do so. Thank you.

  34. misha says:
    April 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    Keith: The top of my bucket list is to rewrite that sketch and make it “The Dead Claret” sketch.

    VLADIMIR: We’re waiting for Godot.

    ESTRAGON: You’re sure it was here?

    VLADIMIR: He said by the tree. Do you see any others? What are you insinuating? That we’ve come to the wrong place?

    ESTRAGON: He should be here.

    VLADIMIR: He didn’t say for sure he’d come.

    ESTRAGON: And if he doesn’t come?

    VLADIMIR: We’ll come back tomorrow.

    ESTRAGON: Hey, who’s that approaching?

    VLADIMIR: It looks like Godot.

    GODOT: Hi guys. I was at a Tea Party meeting, and lost track of the time. We were talking about Obama not being a natural born citizen. His father was from Kenya, and never a citizen – you know what that means.

    VLADIMIR and ESTRAGON: We’ll never see our families again!

    [Lightning and thunder] Curtains close.

  35. Thomas Brown says:
    April 30, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Waiting for Justice Godot [end of Act I]

    VLADIMIR: We’re going to have to remove the Usurper by force!

    ESTRAGON: Yes. Absolutely.

    [They do not move.]

  37. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    May 1, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    His beans were poisoned to prevent him spilling the arsenic.

    sfjeff: The coroner was poisoned to prevent him spilling the beans.

  38. misha says:
    May 1, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    His beans were poisoned to prevent him spilling the arsenic.

    “Hey dad – I did amount to a hill of beans.”

  39. Northland10 says:
    May 1, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    Hatewatch has a little fun with Orly and Corsi’s Frank Davis is the father game.

    http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2012/05/01/corsi-obamas-father-may-have-been-an-american-communist/

  40. RuhRoh says:
    May 1, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    Some of you may have already heard about this, but Orly called an IN radio program today under an assumed name in order to harrass Secretary of State Connie Lawson.

    The host of the program quickly recognized her, and once he did, Orly hung up on him.

    http://praiseindy.com/1608251/notorious-anti-obama-birther-orly-taitz-calls-black-radio-talkshow-to-denounce-president-obama-and-indianas-gop-secretary-of-state/

  41. JPotter says:
    May 1, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    Northland10: Hatewatch has a little fun with Orly and Corsi’s Frank Davis is the father game.

    LOL! Yeesh, when even the SPLC is making fun of you ….

  42. Lucas D. Smith says:
    May 1, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Dear readers of Doc’s website,

    I’ve published a new thought-provoking blog report:

    “Is agent Sean Boyer alive? Classified document now disclosed.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/barrack-obama-eligibility/is-agent-sean-boyer-alive-classified-document-now-disclosed/

    Please exercise your free speech in the comments section below. There are no stipulations of political correctness on this blog. Speak your mind, give us your thoughts, both objective and subjective. Share your ideas, hunches, inklings or your expertise. Please provide recommendation and corrections if you spot errors in fact within the blog report. Lastly, remember that posting a comment is much like casting a vote, so please do so. Thank you.

  43. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Northland10: Hatewatch has a little fun with Orly and Corsi’s Frank Davis is the father game.

    I have to congratulate Pam Geller. A Jewish woman got her website listed by the SPLC as a hate site. I never thought I would see Jews flirt with fascism, like the Settlers.

    Every time I think I have seen it all, something like this comes along.

  44. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 2:57 am

    abc: Two recent New York Times articles highlighted the progress of women in Chinese society.

    My wife’s mother was the last generation to have their feet bound. She was also illiterate. Plus, it was an arranged marriage. It was a sad, harsh life.

    Her parents were from north of Beijing, and her mother was Mongolian. Her brother is 6 feet tall, which is unusual. My wife is 5’7″, which is also tall.

    Interesting anecdote: we were in a taxi in Taipei. I paid with a NTD 200 bill. On the bill was engraved a picture of Chiang Kai-shek, whose son at the time was Prime Minister. I said “he knows what is father was worth.” Gloria told me to shut up, and elbowed me. “He might think you’re a subversive and notify the police.”

  45. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 3:03 am

    abc: These articles are somewhat pie in the sky, but still show a positive progression.

    It was easy to spot the Mormon missionaries. White shirt, black necktie, black pants, riding bicycles in 103F heat.

    I rode a motorcycle. Ha ha!

  46. JPotter says:
    May 2, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Too funny not to share … Daily Show ran a “If Bush had Gotten Bin Laden” political spot last night … it starts at 3:20 in the clip posted here:

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-may-1-2012/victory-lapse—the-anniversary-of-osama-bin-laden-s-death

    Was the capper to a pretty good segment reviewing the ongoing conspiracy to forget the recent past.

  47. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 10:34 am

    RuhRoh: Some of you may have already heard about this, but Orly called an IN radio program today under an assumed name in order to harrass Secretary of State Connie Lawson.
    http://praiseindy.com/1608251/notorious-anti-obama-birther-orly-taitz-calls-black-radio-talkshow-to-denounce-president-obama-and-indianas-gop-secretary-of-state/

    You should read my comment.

  49. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Book cites journal of Obama’s ex-girlfriend – One of the down sides of having biographies written about you: Writers are likely to track down your ex-girlfriends.

    Read on:
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/book-looks-at-obamas-ex-girlfriend/1

  50. Sef says:
    May 2, 2012 at 11:15 am

    misha:
    Book cites journal of Obama’s ex-girlfriend – One of the down sides of having biographies written about you: Writers are likely to track down your ex-girlfriends.

    Read on:
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/book-looks-at-obamas-ex-girlfriend/1

    So…… Someone is saying he was at Columbia, after all? Obviously a fake journal. Gotta test that ink and paper. Shurf Joe gotta send a subpoena. And this is new info for one of Lena’s cases.

  51. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    While doing a search on Orly/Lena this morning, I came across a very anti-Orly site that seems to have been inspired by her Senate campaign. Seems to have been registered yesterday, but I couldn’t discern by whom. The site appears to be aimed at CA Republicans, though that may be just a ploy. It’s called “sovietorlyforsenate”.

    Has anyone else seen this site? It’s pretty bizarre. I don’t think Orly’s seen it yet as she hasn’t talked about it on her blog.

  52. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 2:30 pm

    RuhRoh: Some of you may have already heard about this, but Orly called an IN radio program today under an assumed name in order to harrass Secretary of State Connie Lawson.

    misha: You should read my comment.

    You should read my additional comments.
    http://praiseindy.com/1608251/notorious-anti-obama-birther-orly-taitz-calls-black-radio-talkshow-to-denounce-president-obama-and-indianas-gop-secretary-of-state/

  53. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    According to the alternative “Yes! Weekly”, writer and campaigner Chad Nance spoke to a pollworker who told him that Jodie Brunstetter said, “The reason my husband wrote Amendment 1 was because the Caucasian race is diminishing and we need to uh, reproduce.”

    Read on:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/02/north-carolina-gay-marriage-amendment-1_n_1470956.html

  54. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Orly’s now seeking “Official Certificates of Candidacy” for Obama, Kerry and Clinton from the Chief Elections Officer of HI, Scott Nago.

    Where’s she headed with this one?

  55. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    Need to add that she is also seeking the “Official Certificates of Candidacy” for Gore.

  56. misha says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    RuhRoh: Where’s she headed with this one?

    Towards being committed.

  57. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    misha: Towards being committed.

    If only!

    I think she’s going to get those HI sanctions sometimes soon.

  58. nbc says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    RuhRoh: Need to add that she is also seeking the “Official Certificates of Candidacy” for Gore.

    And the oficial ones and of course she appears to not know that they are called Certificate of Nomination.

    More birther lore… I guess Orly has given up on the 2012 election and is looking to have the 2008 election declared void 😉

  59. nbc says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    RuhRoh: I think she’s going to get those HI sanctions sometimes soon.

    A FOIA request for these documents is well within her rights. They are not privileged. But of course, she is trying to use them for something that will likely be quite frivolous. Orly never fails to disappoint.

  60. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    nbc: And the oficial ones and of course she appears to not know that they are called Certificate of Nomination.More birther lore… I guess Orly has given up on the 2012 election and is looking to have the 2008 election declared void

    It was cute that she only wants the one “sighed” by Nancy Pelosi. 😀

    I’m still not entirely sure what she’s trying to prove. I she looking for some irregularities among the various Certificates? Or seeking to establish a pattern of insufficiency?

  61. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    nbc: A FOIA request for these documents is well within her rights. They are not privileged. But of course, she is trying to use them for something that will likely be quite frivolous. Orly never fails to disappoint.

    Right. It’s not a problem to ask for the documents; the problem will be what she attempts to do with them.

  62. RuhRoh says:
    May 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Orly actually believes she is going to depose both Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton.

    Ima gonna guess this doesn’t work out for her. 😉

  63. nbc says:
    May 2, 2012 at 9:24 pm

    RuhRoh: I’m still not entirely sure what she’s trying to prove. I she looking for some irregularities among the various Certificates? Or seeking to establish a pattern of insufficiency?

    She believes that the DNC did not follow the rules when filing the certificate of nomination for President Obama in Hawaii.

    She has no case…

  65. gorefan says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:22 am

    misha: BARC – Ban Animals on Roofs of Cars

    Did you see the ad the President showed at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner? There was the image of what would happen if Romney won the Presidency – Air Force One had a dog carrier strapped to the roof.

  66. gorefan says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:47 am

    nbc: A FOIA request for these documents is well within her rights. They are not privileged

    They have been floating around the web for awhile now.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/20761067/Hawaii-2000-and-2004-Certs-Rep-and-Dem

  67. Keith says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:58 am

    gorefan: They have been floating around the web for awhile now.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/20761067/Hawaii-2000-and-2004-Certs-Rep-and-Dem

    Those ‘things’ can’t be legal. They have to be in portrait mode, not landscape.

    Pretty clumsy forgery if you ask me.

  68. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:13 am

    You can see raging anti-Semitism, along with the full bigot catalog on WND. I commented to a few posters. Have your barf bag ready.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/anti-glenn-beck-group-honors-van-jones/

  69. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:15 am

    gorefan: Did you see the ad the President showed at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner?There was the image of what would happen if Romney won the Presidency –Air Force One had a dog carrier strapped to the roof.

    I read about it, but cannot find any link. Do you have a link?

  70. Keith says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:49 am

    misha: I read about it, but cannot find any link. Do you have a link?

    Full video of The President’s stand up routine, which includes the dog on AFOne, can be seen in Doc’s post “Birther Jokes” from 29 April.

  71. Keith says:
    May 3, 2012 at 3:08 am

    Keith: Full video of The President’s stand up routine, which includes the dog on AFOne, can be seen in Doc’s post “Birther Jokes” from 29 April.

    The image is in the ‘Romney Ad’ that Obama is ‘objecting to’ at about 13:30 into the clip.

  72. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 3:18 am

    Keith: The image is in the Romney Ad’ that Obama is objecting to’ at about 13:30 into the clip.

    Thank you.

  73. justlw says:
    May 3, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Filed appropriately on Gizmodo under “WTF”:

    “This Treasure Hunter Says He Has Located Bin Laden’s Body”

    …Bill Warren, the Californian treasure hunter who claimed he was searching for Osama Bin Laden’s dead body back in June 2011. He didn’t find him then, but now he claims he has located the cadaver.

    …He says he pinpointed the drop point from photos recently released by the US Navy.

    …he is ready to start the diving for Osama’s body bag: he says he’s aiming at starting the mission on June 1, and that he may be able to find the body in “under a week.” … He declares that his only fear is that the US Government would kill him or sink his boat.

    …Warren says he is doing this because he doesn’t “believe the Obama administration” and he wants to have proof that it is really his body.

    Comments are mostly about how one determines a location in the middle of the ocean “from photos.”

    “Did you not know? Waves have a pattern.”

    “Wait! I KNOW that patch of ocean!”

    “That whitecap looks awfully familiar! Wait! There’s another one!”

    “when the navy buried bin-laden, they put an X on the side of the boat so they’d be able to find the spot again.”

  74. JPotter says:
    May 3, 2012 at 9:48 am

    Uhhhh …. why would they have dropped him in a body bag?

  75. The Magic M says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:13 am

    Being a mathematician, I was always fond of Markov chains and what they can do for the general state of amusement.

    So I just downloaded an implementation of a Markov chain program, fed it WND’s article on Herb Titus commenting on Obama’s and Rubio’s eligibility and it churned out these funny statements – all in all not much different from general birtherspeak:

    — begin quote —

    “A citizen by birth is one who by constitutional or statutory provision is made or recognized as a potential GOP vice presidential candidate, a document found in the U.S.
    He continued, “Natural Born Citizen’ is a citizen of a specific nation by the PixelPatriot website, confirming that Marco Rubio was born in the National Archives raises questions.”

    A natural born citizenship status, subject only to the 14th Amendment, extended by 8 USC Section 1401 was written to define natural born citizen’ or to Article 2, Section 1,” Corsi said.
    He continued, “Natural Born Citizen’ is a citizen of a specific nation by the law governing natural born citizen, then, is a citizen of a particular state in order for the mother and child return to China and Turkey and raise the child.

    The brouhaha over President Obama’s birth certificate – has revealed a widespread ignorance of some of the universe of nation-states, and is universal as to person, and fixed as to time
    Baier asserted that people born in the National Archives and posted online from the White House last year has been retrieved from the White House correspondent.

    — end quote —

    Well, saner than most birther postings over here. 🙂

  76. Majority Will says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:13 am

    JPotter:
    Uhhhh …. why would they have dropped him in a body bag?

    Body was wrapped in a white sheet for religious custom and placed in a weighted body bag to prevent flotation or settled position transfer from ocean currents (i.e., ending up on shore somewhere is a bad idea).

  77. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:14 am

    justlw: Filed appropriately on Gizmodo under “WTF”: This Treasure Hunter Says He Has Located Bin Laden’s Body

    Read my comment. Note: do not have coffee or any other liquid nearby.

  78. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:18 am

    JPotter: Uhhhh …. why would they have dropped him in a body bag?

    Because the Navy has superb sartorial taste.

  79. Majority Will says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:19 am

    justlw:
    Filed appropriately on Gizmodo under “WTF”:

    Comments are mostly about how one determines a location in the middle of the ocean “from photos.”

    “Did you not know? Waves have a pattern.”

    “Wait! I KNOW that patch of ocean!”

    “That whitecap looks awfully familiar! Wait! There’s another one!”

    “when the navy buried bin-laden, they put an X on the side of the boat so they’d be able to find the spot again.”

    Or just ask the ocean.

    “Water has memory…think of a glass of water in the sunshine, it memorizes the heat and holds it. The water in your body remembers the greeting you did or did not receive when you got home. The water bed remembers your tossing and turning, holding that memory for the next evening. Water remembers energy.”

    – Dr. Kate Vandemoer

  80. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:26 am

    Majority Will: “Water has memory…Water remembers energy.”

    Is this turning into a dissertation on homeopathy?

  81. gorefan says:
    May 3, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Majority Will: Water has memory

    “Water dissolving and water removing
    There is water at the bottom of the ocean
    Remove the water, carry the water
    Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean”
    -Talking Heads

    Same as it ever was.

  82. Majority Will says:
    May 3, 2012 at 11:30 am

    gorefan: “Water dissolving and water removing
    There is water at the bottom of the ocean
    Remove the water, carry the water
    Remove the water from the bottom of the ocean”
    -Talking Heads

    Same as it ever was.

    To misha and gorefan:
    Let’s remember that the reality challenged Dr. Kate claimed water has memory and to attribute the quote to her instead. Thanks.

  83. RuhRoh says:
    May 3, 2012 at 11:42 am

    Happened to run across this piece on a comic book giving a wink, wink at the Birther controversy: http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/05/02/black-superman-story-hints-at-obama-birther-controversy/

    The relevant panel is at the top of the piece if you don’t care to read the whole thing. 🙂

  84. Sef says:
    May 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    RuhRoh:
    Happened to run across this piece on a comic book giving a wink, wink at the Birther controversy: http://comicbook.com/blog/2012/05/02/black-superman-story-hints-at-obama-birther-controversy/

    The relevant panel is at the top of the piece if you don’t care to read the whole thing.

    I was thinking about Superman the other day. Wouldn’t the foundling section of state BC laws be in effect for Baby Superman (Clark Kent), so it would be assumed he was NBC?

  85. JPotter says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:22 pm

    Majority Will: Body was wrapped in a white sheet for religious custom and placed in a weighted body bag to prevent flotation or settled position transfer from ocean currents (i.e., ending up on shore somewhere is a bad idea).

    So thoughtful! I thought they mummied him up and gave him the heave-ho. Slide him off the board like in the good old days. Nice and biodegradable. Bad enough to pollute the water with his karma.

  86. JPotter says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm

    Sef: I was thinking about Superman the other day. Wouldn’t the foundling section of state BC laws be in effect for Baby Superman (Clark Kent), so it would be assumed he was NBC?

    Yes, but he later learned where he was from. How does discovery affect foundlings? Does the timing of the discovery matter? Going from NBC to anything else wouldn’t seem fair.

    Then again, foundling in a space capsule would be an unusual case. Vefry of wise of Ma and Pa Kent to have kept that on the down-low.

  87. Majority Will says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:38 pm

    JPotter: Nice and biodegradable.

    Except that you don’t want chunks, skeletal or otherwise, washing up on shore anywhere either.

    Not that it would be identifiable, of course, but to prevent an unsanitary and grotesque occurrence.

  88. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    May 3, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Yes, timing is everything.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1401

    JPotter: Yes, but he later learned where he was from. How does discovery affect foundlings? Does the timing of the discovery matter?

  89. Dr. Conspiracy says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:07 pm

    I don’t know the Superman back story that well, but assuming that the Kents didn’t know where the baby in the rocket ship came from, then they would by law register the birth as a foundling and the place of birth on the birth certificate would be Smallville (where he was found). If prior to age 21 no one showed that Clark Kent was born outside the United States, then he would be a citizen of the United States at birth under 8 USC 1401 (f).

    Sef: I was thinking about Superman the other day. Wouldn’t the foundling section of state BC laws be in effect for Baby Superman (Clark Kent), so it would be assumed he was NBC?

  90. JPotter says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm

    Majority Will: Except that you don’t want chunks, skeletal or otherwise, washing up on shore anywhere either.Not that it would be identifiable, of course, but to prevent an unsanitary and grotesque occurrence.

    Fish, microbes, etc….they eat oil, they can handle a body.

    Wonder how many feet of water he was dropped in? Just how ludicrous is this diving story? The north Arabian Sea runs as deep as 5,000m and more. Not much continental shelf off Yemen and Iran. Pretty sure they didn’t drop him just a bit off shore, but in open, int’l waters … http://ibis.grdl.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/bathy/bathD.pl

  91. Majority Will says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:36 pm

    JPotter: Fish, microbes, etc….they eat oil, they can handle a body.

    Wonder how many feet of water he was dropped in? Just how ludicrous is this diving story? The north Arabian Sea runs as deep as 5,000m and more. Not much continental shelf off Yemen and Iran. Pretty sure they didn’t drop him just a bit off shore, but in open, int’l waters … http://ibis.grdl.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/bathy/bathD.pl

    Corpses and chunks of corpses from tsunamis occasionally wash up on near and faraway shores.

  92. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    Majority Will: Corpses and chunks of corpses…occasionally wash up on near and faraway shores.

    “Hey, I know that guy. Looks just like bin Laden.”

  93. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    Sef: I was thinking about Superman the other day. Wouldn’t the foundling section of state BC laws be in effect for Baby Superman (Clark Kent), so it would be assumed he was NBC?

    Dr. Conspiracy: assuming that the Kents didn’t know where the baby in the rocket ship came from, then they would by law register the birth as a foundling and the place of birth on the birth certificate would be Smallville (where he was found). If prior to age 21 no one showed that Clark Kent was born outside the United States, then he would be a citizen of the United States at birth under 8 USC 1401 (f).

    Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, both Jewish. That means this whole thing from the very beginning, is a plot by the International Jewish Conspiracy™.

  94. JPotter says:
    May 3, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    misha: Superman was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster, both Jewish. That means this whole thing from the very beginning, is a plot by the International Jewish Conspiracy™.

    Throw in a reference to their earlier work, The Reign of the Super Man and it all comes together.

  95. RuhRoh says:
    May 3, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    I see the Fogbowers are wondering if Amos Brown knew it was Orly before he put her on air. According to his twitter feed, no, he did not. He allowed Lena on air and recognized her voice within about 30 seconds. Her railing against Obama clinched it for him and he realized it was Orly. http://twitter.com/#!/amoswtlcindy

  96. RuhRoh says:
    May 3, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Lately, Orly’s been including her DVD of her epic fails in GA and NH in her pleadings, motions, complaints, etc. These are only sold through her CAMPAIGN FOR SENATE.

    Jill Nagamine specifically mentioned that the DVD was part of Orly’s Senate campaign when she recieved it in a filing.

    Just how much trouble can Orly court by including campaign propaganda in her filings? Is she writing off the $22.50 she normally charges for the DVD when she includes it in a court filing?

    Can comingling of funds finally bring her down?

  97. misha says:
    May 3, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Hey everyone: I found where Orly Taitz is REALLY from, which explains her behavior –

    http://www.republicofwadiya.com/#/0

  98. RuhRoh says:
    May 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    misha: Hey everyone: I found where Orly Taitz is REALLY from, which explains her behavior –http://www.republicofwadiya.com/#/0

    I can’t get on board with that. I dated a first generation Romanian Jew for many years. They also emigrated through Israel. His mother has more in common with Orly than I would ever care to mention specifically in public.

    I can’t make light of the real horrors that some who have found refuge on our shores endured in their younger years, or what their parents witnessed. If I told you the stories I heard from that family, I’d be permanently censored here. You just can’t desribe them in polite company.

    Some of these immigrants really are permanently scarred.

    My bf’s mother was so scarred that she couldn’t even react to the fall of the Berlin wall. I happened to be there with her when it happened and she was stoic about it. She couldn’t trust it.

    We absolutely do have people in our country, citizens now or soon to be, who suffered elsewhere. Who uphold our Constitution every day and are grateful to do so.

    Orly makes a mockery of them all, which makes me ill.

  99. RuhRoh says:
    May 3, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    I know I am a total buzzkill. I’m probably not expressing myself well because I am, quite frankly, upset.

    Orly is her own brand of crazy. She came by some of it naturally by virtue of how and where she spent her formative years.

    But let’s not tar everyone with a similar genesis story with the same brush, OK?

  100. Keith says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Majority Will: Corpses and chunks of corpses from tsunamis occasionally wash up on near and faraway shores.

    Even more likely from disposal in the Ganges. Tsunamis don’t happen all that often, though when they do there can be a fair number of missing unaccounted for. Dozens of bodies are interred (if that is the right word for the practice) in the Holy Ganges every day.

  101. Keith says:
    May 3, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    I forgot to add that those Ganges bodies are usually quickly disposed of by various carrion eaters, but I expect some do get through to the sea and might end up just about anywhere.

  102. Majority Will says:
    May 4, 2012 at 8:02 am

    Keith: Even more likely from disposal in the Ganges. Tsunamis don’t happen all that often, though when they do there can be a fair number of missing unaccounted for. Dozens of bodies are interred (if that is the right word for the practice) in the Holy Ganges every day.

    Good point. I was trying to explain that burial at sea should take into account that the oceans’ currents and tides can move flotsam and jetsam onto shores as well as dumped bodies unless they’re wrapped or bagged and weighted (e.g., cement shoes, anchors, etc.). And sending the dead off on ice floes or burning ships may not be good ideas either.

  103. Paper says:
    May 4, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Now, Elizabeth Warren is up for birther attention? Birthers are metastasizing? In warren’s case, it’s pretty clear how it is really about trying to create ambiguous impressions or narrative lodged in people’s minds, bank shots off of human foibles, prejudices and predilections.

    See

    http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/04/elizabeth-warrens-birther-moment/?ref=opinion

  104. Jim says:
    May 4, 2012 at 10:29 am

    It sounds like there may be more and more blowback against birthers this time around. First, courts and defendants are more and more asking for sanctions against them…and maybe more and more candidates will face election problems in trying to appease them.

    http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/05/04/477958/jim-pendergraph-birther/?mobile=nc

  105. JPotter says:
    May 4, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Paper: Now, Elizabeth Warren is up for birther attention? Birthers are metastasizing?

    Ugh. Yes, the election of Barack Obama certainly did move this country beyond race.

    Indian tribal citizenship is a weird morass … and a Vattelist’s dream. No one gets in the club w/o papers. But if you have papers, you’re in no question. As the article states, it varies by tribe, and yes, some tribes have a minimum requirement. Just imagine: “Sorry, ma’am, you’ve commingled once too many times. Your children are stateless! Citizenship DENIED!”

    In order to avoid extinction, many tribes have no minimum. My own lily-white, blonde, green-eyed son is on the Osage rolls …. his card reads (Birthers, avert your gaze):

    1 / 8,192nd

  106. The Magic M says:
    May 4, 2012 at 11:18 am

    Dr. Conspiracy: ssuming that the Kents didn’t know where the baby in the rocket ship came from, then they would by law register the birth as a foundling and the place of birth on the birth certificate would be Smallville (where he was found). If prior to age 21 no one showed that Clark Kent was born outside the United States, then he would be a citizen of the United States at birth

    So even if somebody could prove *after* he turned 21 that he was not born in the US, he would still legally count as an NBC?
    And since it’s Superman, would the law even apply to him as he is undisputedly not human?
    (Actually, I miss the early birther days when there was no party line and both the Vattelist crap and “Obama was the result of genetic engineering” stood on equal footing among the wingnuts. It was more fun.)

  107. misha says:
    May 7, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    Dr C – I don’t know where to put this; move it to where it is appropriate:

    Romney Refuses To Stand Up To Woman Who Says Obama Should Be Tried For Treason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V8aMagOIdU&feature=colike

    An awkward moment occurred at Mitt Romney’s town hall event in Cleveland, Ohio on Monday when an audience member, in the process of asking him a question, asserted that President Barack Obama should be tried for treason. Romney remained silent during the question-and-answer session…
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/mitt-romney-barack-obama-treason_n_1497416.html

  108. Thrifty says:
    May 7, 2012 at 5:05 pm

    Isn’t that what the open threads are for?

    misha: Dr C – I don’t know where to put this; move it to where it is appropriate:

  109. bob j says:
    May 7, 2012 at 10:27 pm

    ” blah,blah, usurper, blah, AND HE WAS NEVER VETTED.!!!”

    I love that one. The President was never vetted. So, according to birthers, it went something like this:

    FBI Headquarters: Office of Background Checks ( not a real office, as far as I know.), late fall 2007

    Agent 1: Okay, who do we have to check first?

    Agent 2: Umm, Let’s see, Barack Hussein Obama; he is running for President

    Agent 1: Oh yea, that guy. He was on Oprah. He’s black right?

    Agent 2: I think so,maybe his mom was a communist, and his dad was from Africa.That might be the guy.

    Agent 1: Well, if he is black and we do a background check, people will think we are racist. He is good. ( stamps file). Alright, who is next?

    Agent 2: Hmmm, Tom Smith. He wants to work at the MacDonalds, 2 blocks from Congress.

    Agent 1: Wait, that’s the guy who liked the Phish Facebook page. Get the gloves, and call the misses. We are working late tonight.

  110. Majority Will says:
    May 7, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    misha:
    Dr C – I don’t know where to put this; move it to where it is appropriate:

    Romney Refuses To Stand Up To Woman Who Says Obama Should Be Tried For Treason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V8aMagOIdU&feature=colike

    An awkward moment occurred at Mitt Romney’s town hall event in Cleveland, Ohio on Monday when an audience member, in the process of asking him a question, asserted that President Barack Obama should be tried for treason. Romney remained silent during the question-and-answer session…
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/07/mitt-romney-barack-obama-treason_n_1497416.html

    Fun note in the comments section:

    “Romney was vetted as VP in 2008 and supplied 20 years of tax returns to try to get the job, yet McCain determined that Palin was more qualified than Romney.”

    OUCH.

  111. misha says:
    May 8, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Thrifty: Isn’t that what the open threads are for?

    The open thread link was not on the sidebar, and I did not find it while searching.

    You have to remember I had a stroke, and have asthma:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/17/world/middleeast/anthony-shadid-a-new-york-times-reporter-dies-in-syria.html

    At Work in Syria, Times Correspondent Dies – Anthony Shadid, a gifted foreign correspondent whose graceful dispatches for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe and The Associated Press covered nearly two decades of Middle East conflict and turmoil, died, apparently of an asthma attack, on Thursday while on a reporting assignment in Syria.

  112. Thrifty says:
    May 8, 2012 at 11:41 am

    Sorry, I wasn’t aware of your health problems. I apologize if I sounded rude in my previous post.

    To find the latest Open Thread, I usually just hit Ctrl + F to do a Find in my web browser, and search for the term Open Mike. It’s along the right hand side of the main page, just past the box of the most recent threads, under the Conspiracies heading,

    misha: The open thread link was not on the sidebar, and I did not find it while searching.

    You have to remember I had a stroke, and have asthma:

  113. Northland10 says:
    May 8, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    Orly’s Indiana case to have Obama removed from the ballot may have hit another snag. He now has 73,000+74,000+ votes to his opponent’s (the empty chair) 0 votes. Ah, the smell of mootness in the morning.

  114. misha says:
    May 9, 2012 at 9:30 am

    Good news department:

    Rep. Bachmann becomes Swiss citizen

    Rep. Michele Bachmann is not only an American, she’s also a citizen of Switzerland. Switzerland recently granted the former GOP presidential candidate and Minnesota congresswoman dual citizenship. It all stems from Bachmann’s husband, Marcus, whose parents are Swiss.

    “Congresswoman Bachmann’s husband is of Swiss descent so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,” Bachmann spokeswoman Becky Rogness said in an e-mail today.

    Hey birthers – what are you going to do now?
    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/05/michele-bachmann-switzerland-citizen/1

  115. y_p_w says:
    May 9, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    misha: Good news department:Rep. Bachmann becomes Swiss citizenRep. Michele Bachmann is not only an American, she’s also a citizen of Switzerland. Switzerland recently granted the former GOP presidential candidate and Minnesota congresswoman dual citizenship. It all stems from Bachmann’s husband, Marcus, whose parents are Swiss. “Congresswoman Bachmann’s husband is of Swiss descent so she has been eligible for dual-citizenship since they got married in 1978. However, recently some of their children wanted to exercise their eligibility for dual-citizenship so they went through the process as a family,” Bachmann spokeswoman Becky Rogness said in an e-mail today.Hey birthers – what are you going to do now?http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2012/05/michele-bachmann-switzerland-citizen/1

    Darn – beat me to it.

  116. Arthur says:
    May 9, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    Probably most of you have seen Anderson Cooper’s interview with Dr. John Whitley, a North Carolina Republican candidate for state sentate who appears to be both a birther and an Arpaio fan-boy.

    If you haven’t seen it, the link is here: http://crooksandliars.com/node?page=1

  117. misha says:
    May 9, 2012 at 2:24 pm

    Arthur: If you haven’t seen it, the link is here: http://crooksandliars.com/node?page=1

    From the same site:
    GOP Senate Candidate in ND Can’t Name Minimum Wage
    http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gop-senate-candidate-nd-cant-name-minimum-wa

    A Republican Senate candidate in North Dakota and his staff found themselves stumped recently by a voter who wanted to know the state’s minimum wage…Berg voted against raising North Dakota’s minimum wage in 1999, 2005 and 2007 while he was serving as a state lawmaker.

    The Center for Responsive Politics reported in 2010 that Berg had a maximum net worth of over $54 million, making him the 14th richest member of Congress.

  118. Jim says:
    May 9, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    The conspiracy is now running even deeper in the media…even silencing SNL!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/08/snl-writer-jim-downey-no-conspiracy-with-obama_n_1500996.html

  119. misha says:
    May 9, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    Waaaaaay off topic: Vidal Sassoon, Hairdresser Extraordinaire, Dead at 84

    Sassoon was Jewish. “Vidal Sassoon, CBE…was born to Sephardic Jewish parents in Hammersmith, London…

    At the age of 17, although having been too young to serve in the Second World War, he became the youngest member of the 43 Group, a Jewish veterans’ underground organisation. It fought against anti-semitism after the war ended by breaking up Fascist meetings in East London. One newspaper refers to him as an “anti-fascist warrior-hairdresser,” whose aim was to prevent Sir Oswald Mosley’s far-Right movement from spreading “messages of hatred” after the Second World War.

    In 1948, at the age of 20, he joined the Haganah (which shortly afterwards became the Israeli Defence Forces) and fought in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, which began after Israel achieved statehood. During an interview, he describes the year he spent training with the Israelis as “the best year of my life,”…”

    http://gawker.com/5909009/vidal-sassoon-hairdresser-extraordinaire-dead-at-84
    and
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidal_Sassoon

  121. The Magic M says:
    May 10, 2012 at 6:14 am

    misha: Vidal Sassoon, Hairdresser Extraordinaire, Dead at 84

    Thx for the info and the additional background. I didn’t know much about his life outside fashion before.

  122. Lucas D. Smith says:
    May 10, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    misha: Waaaaaay off topic: Vidal Sassoon, Hairdresser Extraordinaire, Dead at 84Sassoon was Jewish. “Vidal Sassoon, CBE…was born to Sephardic Jewish parents in Hammersmith, London…At the age of 17, although having been too young to serve in the Second World War, he became the youngest member of the 43 Group, a Jewish veterans’ underground organisation. It fought against anti-semitism after the war ended by breaking up Fascist meetings in East London. One newspaper refers to him as an “anti-fascist warrior-hairdresser,” whose aim was to prevent Sir Oswald Mosley’s far-Right movement from spreading “messages of hatred” after the Second World War.In 1948, at the age of 20, he joined the Haganah (which shortly afterwards became the Israeli Defence Forces) and fought in the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, which began after Israel achieved statehood. During an interview, he describes the year he spent training with the Israelis as “the best year of my life,”…” http://gawker.com/5909009/vidal-sassoon-hairdresser-extraordinaire-dead-at-84andhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidal_Sassoon

    My friend Charles Edward Lincoln III has an associate named Melinda Pillsbury-Foster.

    She claims, and has been for a long time now, that Vidal stole the Sassoon name.

    Read about it at Charles’s Tierra Limpia blog. The artilce, published last year is: “The Thing you gotta know is everything is showbiz”

  123. Lucas D. Smith says:
    May 10, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Esteemed and regarded readers of the Obama Conspiracy Theories site,

    For your review and thoughtful consideration:

    “Sean Boyer the missing agent.”

    http://www.wasobamaborninkenya.com/blog/obama-news/sean-boyer-the-missing-agent/

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