Massively inflated numbers on Taitz petition

Orly Taitz reports crazy numbers of signers for her petition, the most recent number I’ve seen from her is 20,000. That’s just wrong.

The first problem is duplicate signers. Look at these screen shots:

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Those are just recent duplicate signers who signed twice in a row, and signers that made no attempt to hide their double signatures. Indeed there is no verification of email addresses in the signing process and somebody can just make up a name and a location. A name isn’t even required. Since only the first name and last name initial is entered at all, duplicates are not easy to count. I noticed that “Darren H.” from Diablo, California, signed 8 times and “Renee B.” from Greeley, Colorado is a fiver.

Some of the “signings” are pranks. I found 47 like this in a group:

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A far more serious problem of over reporting comes from Taitz’ misunderstanding or misrepresentation of the site. When someone signs the petition, it can send emails to selected members of Congress, specifically your two Senators and your Representative: that’s three. So when it says it sent 20,000 emails, that means something less than 20,000 actual signers. You can see that in this screen shot:

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I left a comment on Taitz’ web site about this mistake several days ago. Either she didn’t see it, or she is intentionally deceiving her readers.

Update:

In order to get a better idea of how the petition campaign is going, I tabulated the signers per day. The total now is 9,502 (Orly reports 23,000).

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79 Responses to Massively inflated numbers on Taitz petition

  1. Bob says:

    I left her a friendly comment pointing out many signatures were duplicates, fake, or just insults. I guess her goal is to have the petition fail so that she can blame Obots/Obama/Soros/black helicopters, etc. and rile up both of her supporters. She does the same thing with her lawsuits and subpoenas — she WANTS them to be dismissed or just ignorable.

  2. alg says:

    “I left a comment on Taitz’ web site about this mistake several days ago. Either she didn’t see it, or she is intentionally deceiving her readers.”

    Heaven’s no! Orly Taitz “deceive?!?” How can that be?

  3. The Magic M says:

    > Either she didn’t see it, or she is intentionally deceiving her readers.

    The latter. I told her twice, once on her blog and once on Twitter. She can’t claim she honestly believes her interpretation is right.

  4. The Magic M says:

    Bob: She does the same thing with her lawsuits and subpoenas — she WANTS them to be dismissed or just ignorable.

    … because, as Ankeny vs. Daniels has shown, birthers fear nothing more than a court ruling Obama eligible. As long as they can claim “Obama dodged service”, “the case wasn’t heard on the merits” or “no court has declared Obama eligible”, it has propaganda value. If they actually pursued a case “lege artis”, they could no longer do either of that.

    It’s no coincidence that not just Orly, but also Larry Klayman and Van Irion always botch service.

  5. Thrifty says:

    20,000 isn’t even an impressive fake number. It’s like if I were in a bar trying to impress a woman by making up stories about my life, and saying “Yeah, I just signed a lease on a shiny new Honda Civic, got some great new furniture from IKEA, and am on track to make up to $45,000 this year. I’m a major league baller. Wanna go to my place and bang?”

  6. Lh says:

    It is just a matter of time Obama will be exposed wait and see.

  7. Yoda says:

    Just another example of birfer math.

  8. Lh: It is just a matter of time Obama will be exposed wait and see.

    I agree. I found Obama’s Kenya BC. Fireworks! See for yourself:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

  9. Arthur says:

    Lh:
    It is just a matter of time Obama will be exposed wait and see.

    “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.” – Matthew 24:34

    Still waiting.

  10. JD Reed says:

    Lh:
    It is just a matter of time Obama will be exposed wait and see.

    Are you accusing the President of being a flasher? And how would you know?

  11. Go Figure says:

    Defendant Barack Obama defaulted in Grinols et al v Obama et al, a legal action dealing with Obama’s use of forged IDs and a stolen CT Social Security number 042-68-4425. Obama is not furnishing a response as he cannot defend his use of flagrantly forged birth certificate, Selective Service Registration and a stolen Connecticut Social Security number, which was assigned in and around 1977 to an elderly immigrant Harrison (Harry) J. Bounel, born in 1890.

    National search databases show both Obama and Bounel at the same address 5046 Greenwood Ave Chicago, IL 60615. Bounel received aforementioned number in and around March 1977 as he needed Medicare benefits. He is believed to be deceased and from 1986 Obama has fraudulently assumed Bounel’s social security number and used it while at Harvard and later in Chicago and in DC. As late as November 2009 there were changes in the status of Bounel entered by alleged relative Michelle Obama. Pleadings and exhibits are below.

    For more information go to Orly TaitzESQ.com. If you have any information on Harrison J. Bounel, e-mail Orly.taitz@gmail.com. or write a comment at orlytaitzesq.com If you do not hear back within 24 hours and you have verified information on Bounel, call 949-683-5411. Last verified address of Harry J. Bounel is 915 Daly Ave, Bronx NY during 1940 census. Later he was listed at the 5046 Greenwood Ave address, Obama’s Chicago residence, a mansion which is listed under multiple parcel numbers and linked to Barack and Michelle Obama, a convicted Syrian financiers Tony Resko and social security numbers of a high ranked judge and a prominent attorney. Investigation continues, however information gathered thus far is sufficient for removal of Obama from office and his criminal prosecution for use of forged IDs and a stolen CT SSN.

    Attorney Orly Taitz is working pro bono and donations are greatly appreciated. Law abiding citizens who seek to end this criminal enterprise in the White House can donate via pay-pal at OrlyTaitzESQ.com or by mail to

    Defend Our Freedoms Foundation/c/o Orly Taitz

    29839 Santa Margarita pkwy, ste 100

    Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688

  12. Andrew Morris says:

    If you want to have some gentle reading with your morning coffee, look her her petition for reconsideration to the DC Court of Appeals. As I said yesterday, what on earth did they teach at Taft Law School? She’s written something that’s a mix of an illiterate op-ed piece, with argumentm, discusion, (purported) evidence, and the usual warning to the judges that they may hang for treason.

  13. Andrew Morris: As I said yesterday, what on earth did they teach at Taft Law School?

    “Since graduating from Taft Law School, I can immediately tell if a contract is oral or written.” – Orly Taitz

  14. This is my favorite comment:

    Someone from Isleton, CA writes:

    HE IS PUPPET CONTROLLED BY A EXECUTIVE CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION HE DONT BE HAVEN THE BRAINS OR THE BALLS TO BE DOIN WHAT HE BE DOIN THIS IS A LESSON IN HOW A COUNTRY CAN BE CONCORD FROM WITHIN AND” WE THE PEOPLE” ARE GOING TO PAY THE PRICE .OUR CHILDREN, THEIR CHILDREN . WE HAD THE CHANCE TO ELECT SOMEONE THAT WOULD HAVE DERAILED THIS CORRUPT, FEDERAL CRIME GROUP, A MAN NAMED RON PAUL. VERY FIRST THING HE WOULD HAVE ” ACCOMPLISHED” AND THIS WORD IS NOT IN OBOMBA BIN LAUDINS VOCABULARY . TO ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE . OR THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF CONTROLING THE PUPPET STRINGS THAT ARE ATTACHED OUR COMMANDER AND CHIEF . THE SECOND AMENDMENT WAS WRITTEN TO PROTECT US FROM THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT OR ANY FORIEN GOVERNMENT BID TO TAKE AWAY OUR FREEDOM AND RIGHTS WRIT’IN OUR CONSTITUTION IMPEACHMENT FOR FORGERY AND FRAUD JAIL TIME IS A MUST ON DOWN HIS CHAIN OF APPOINTED CRIMINALS

  15. The Magic M says:

    misha marinsky: “Since graduating from Taft Law School, I can immediately tell if a contract is oral or written.” – Orly Taitz

    Isn’t that the tagline of Hustler Law School?

  16. The Magic M says:

    misha marinsky (quoting a nutcase): HE DONT BE HAVEN THE BRAINS OR THE BALLS TO BE DOIN WHAT HE BE DOIN

    It’s kinda ironic when someone who can’t master common English tries to ridicule other people’s speech by using fake ebonics. Judging from the caps lock abuse, the guy appears to be over 60.

  17. The Magic M says:

    Thrifty: 20,000 isn’t even an impressive fake number.

    The highest number of real signatures (loosely speaking given the above observations on “Vote Orly, vote often”) from any state is from TX at slightly above 2,000. The TX petition to oppose the latest Texan birther bill has more signatures. Even in their inflated fantasy world, birthers are a minority. 😉

  18. Bob says:

    misha marinsky:
    HE IS PUPPET CONTROLLED BY A EXECUTIVE CRIMINAL . . .

    I think those are “on purpose” spelling/grammatical errors but it’s in all caps, angry, ugly, insulting and vaguely threatening so Orly puts it through.

  19. gatsby says:

    I, too, left two comments on her blog explaining the signatures were actually one-third the number of emails sent. She reads everything, so she’s clearly deceiving her followers.

  20. gatsby says:

    Thrifty:
    20,000 isn’t even an impressive fake number.It’s like if I were in a bar trying to impress a woman by making up stories about my life, and saying “Yeah, I just signed a lease on a shiny new Honda Civic, got some great new furniture from IKEA, and am on track to make up to $45,000 this year.I’m a major league baller.Wanna go to my place and bang?”

    You overheard my bar conversation!

  21. Lupin says:

    It’s like watching an opossum trying to climb a greasy pole.

  22. Kate1230 says:

    I’ve left her several posts calling her a liar for continuing to post ridiculously inflated numbers of signatures. What does she do? She talks about the alleged 36 Million people who have visited her website. Of course, she doesn’t talk about the time period this was supposed to have happened in, whether it was months or years, but she loves to throw this figure around as if it’s pertinent. It was noted that her digital counter is also set wrong, indicating with refreshing of a page that there were over 300 hits within a minute to her site. It’s jumping ridiculously. Is there a way for this to be manipulated by Taitz? This woman still can’t post anything properly to her site so this appears to be out of her league, too.

  23. DaveH says:

    Orly distorts everything. In her subpoena to Senator Mikulski, she makes the claim that “Senator Mikulski received over 20,000 emails and letters from the U. S. Citizens demanding investigation of Obama”.

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/122848742/EDCA-ECF-61-2013-01-29-Grinols-v-Electoral-College-Subpoena-Mikulski

    She never lets facts get in her way.

  24. Malarky says:

    This whole blog has participants who reek of an inability to comprehend issues from the viewpoint of a prudent person, and it’s really sickening to view how the “useful idiots” have succumbed to soviet styled brain washing.

    Dr. Malarky post a diagnostic view of forged documents and continually, in every document diagnosis mad by Dr. Malarky, there’s a deliberate expunging of facts that would render the documents diagnosis to be viewed a “malarky”.

    The Dr. Malarky’s diagnosis of the BC deliberately eliminates the evident, and obvious mixing of font; styles, point size, base line alignment, serif and sans serif type styles, escapements for the same characters, such as an ‘a’ having alternate, variable ‘relative unit character spacing’, along with typewriter and computer generated fonts seen in the BC document.

    More “malarky” is placed on the board by what Lenin deemed to be “useful idiots’, and the major problem with this blog is that many ‘useful idiots’ have college degrees…it’s unbelievable to say that anyone would presume that these blog members have common sense.

    The following comment is is true winner for being posted by one of Lenin’s constituents aka ‘useful idiot’ a term used to identify how individuals are deliberately deceived to trap them in a false ideology.

    The ‘real’ question is “WHAT DIDN’T THEY TEACH THIS LENIN DESCRIBED STUDENT” aka “red doper diapered baby” in college”?

    misha marinsky January 31, 2013 at 10:39 am (Quote) #

    Andrew Morris: As I said yesterday, what on earth did they teach at Taft Law School? — [this individual needs to be sent to the re-education camp] of the type proposed by Bill Ayers… the O’fraudster in the White House’s mentor.

    Furthermore, isn’t it obvious that the comment made about Orly is more applicable to that person who raised the question about Taft Law School? Marinsky’s ‘malarky’ continues and from what is said by that individual, one needs to wonder who is more incapable of having common sense; Marinsky or Orly.

    Now then, there are more “useful idiots” with degrees… who swallowed the party line that the proven communist sitting in the WH gave them.

    The following presents more information on how the blog members are bound by “group think” that is conveyed on this blog, the blog-crock radio show, and flog-blowhards online services. All services contain the anti-american, Marx Lenin ideology pursuits.

    [Off topic material removed. Doc]

  25. All of these have been long debunked. In the main, birthers are blowing up images beyond their recorded resolution and then applying a hefty dose of imagination. I’ve addressed in detail a good bit of this nonsense, and Mr. Woodman went much farther and wrote a book about it. Go buy a copy, or alternately stay dumb.

    http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obamas-Birth-Certificate-Fraud/dp/0983759251/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359657926

    Malarky: The Dr. Malarky’s diagnosis of the BC deliberately eliminates the evident, and obvious mixing of font; styles, point size, base line alignment, serif and sans serif type styles, escapements for the same characters, such as an ‘a’ having alternate, variable ‘relative unit character spacing’, along with typewriter and computer generated fonts seen in the BC document.

  26. Arthur says:

    Malarky: there’s a deliberate expunging of facts that would render the documents diagnosis to be viewed a “malarky”.

    Is that you, Joe Biden?

  27. Arthur says:

    Malarky: “useful idiots” with degrees…

    That’s what my wife calls me . . . but I noticed that being a useful idiot with degrees has gotten me out of laundry and changing diapers. Still have to cut the grass, but I’m working on getting more idiotic.

  28. Majority Will says:

    The paranoia is thick out there.

  29. Crustacean says:

    Malarky: This whole blog has participants who reek of an inability to comprehend issues from the viewpoint of a prudent person, and [blah blah blah]…

    Anyone else hear an annoying little mosquito buzz? Who left the screen door open?

  30. Thomas Brown says:

    Malarky: Bill Ayers… the O’fraudster in the White House’s mentor.

    Listen up, ya big baby: They’re called “elections.” That means that a guy you think is the scum of the earth, the spawn of Satan, who harbors theories and plans you think will destroy America, CAN BE ELECTED.

    No worries… That’s close to the same position we good loyal upstanding law-abiding patriotic tax-paying Liberals were in under the Bush criminal regime (the difference being that it was Bush’s VP, Sec. Of Defense, and his key political advisor who were Satan’s spawn– but I digress).

    Earth to Birther! Come in Birther!

    THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS IN FREE ELECTIONS.

    You don’t have to like it. But that’s too bad for you. News flash: Obama is the President. The military serves him willingly. So does law enforcement. Are they all Obots? Hardly. But they are, unlike Birthers, Freepers, SovCits and Usurperologists, REAL AMERICANS. They are mature men and women. Not babies. So they do the American thing and serve a leader they themselves may or may not like because he or she was fairly elected by their countrymen.

    They have a thing called “honor.” You should look into it sometime.

    I have gained some respect for Georgie Bush since then, and I thought he bore off the painful period after 9/11 well, but after he lied us into Iraq I grew to LOATHE the man. But you know what? I called for his impeachment. I wanted him voted out of office. BUT I NEVER WISHED HIM DEAD. I never claimed he was purposely trying to destroy America.

    Have you digested that? If a military officer had refused to serve because he believed Bush “wasn’t the legitimate President,” I (and, I think, most Obots) would have supported his being court-martialed. Nobody gets to wimp out and deny legal authority, or declare that you are “sovereign” and don’t need to obey our laws. Those people are swine. They don’t deserve to call themselves Americans.

    And neither do you.

  31. Malarky: misha marinsky January 31, 2013 at 10:39 am (Quote) #

    Furthermore, isn’t it obvious that the comment made about Orly is more applicable to that person who raised the question about Taft Law School? Marinsky’s ‘malarky’ continues and from what is said by that individual, one needs to wonder who is more incapable of having common sense; Marinsky or Orly.

    I have common sense; Orly has negative. Watch this:

    Artificial intelligence experts in Scotland have created a program that writes jokes.

    The jokes are lame, but at least the computer doesn’t take off every Jewish holiday. [bada-bing]

    Thank you. I’ll be here all week.

  32. Malarky: Marinsky’s ‘malarky’ continues and from what is said by that individual

    Да з’равствует Ленин!

    How many names are you going to post with?

  33. SluggoJD says:

    Malarky:
    This whole blog

    Yes, you are full of sh!t. But at least you picked a nice name.

  34. Arthur: Still have to cut the grass, but I’m working on getting more idiotic.

    Don’t you have a robotic lawn mower? This is State of the Art:

    http://www.husqvarna.com/us/products/robotic-mowers/husqvarna-robotic-mowers-for-homeowners/

    Attention Malarky: I have tons of common sense.

  35. Arthur says:

    misha marinsky: Don’t you have a robotic lawn mower? This is State of the Art:

    I want that.

  36. scott e says:

    i just signed orly’s petition, i’m probably the only one here who did, but that’s ok, that’s what makes our country great. i was surprised she had quite a few signers. she sure is tenacious. doc, i’m glad you made contact with her, she’s a trip on the phone, but i find her energetic and quite endearing.
    i still don’t know why i can’t get an answer to if marco rubio is eligible (even from marco himself). i hope the supreme court defines natural born soon. i still hope to find out if obama is knowingly hiding something in his past that could be epic or consequential, but i am convincing some people anyway, that it’s all still open to investigation and scrutiny, and lively conversation. that’s why i never worry that it will all work out, one way or txe other.

  37. Crustacean says:

    misha marinsky: Artificial intelligence experts in Scotland have created a program that writes jokes.

    OK, now I know who wrote the script for that “Scottish Marriage Proposal” video my Dad sent me…

  38. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Taitz? Not being entirely truthful? Color me shocked!
    Hey all! Been on a long hiatus, for my health. I’m better now. Just won’t be online as often as I used to be.

  39. Majority Will says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG:
    Taitz? Not being entirely truthful? Color me shocked!
    Hey all! Been on a long hiatus, for my health. I’m better now. Just won’t be online as often as I used to be.

    Lachen ist gesund.

  40. HKL (Keith away from home) says:

    misha marinsky: The jokes are lame, but at least the computer doesn’t take off every Jewish holiday. [bada-bing]

    Traditionally, Australian Prime Ministers wait as long as they possibly can before calling an election (there is no fixed date, just a maximum term between elections). That usually means the election is called 30 days before the actual poll date.

    Yesterday the PM called the election for September 14 – an almost American style campaign of 227 days.

    The Jewish Community is upset that the election is set for Yom Kippur, but not overly so. Postal Voting is easy and masses of folks do it anyway. Voting, or rather showing up at a polling station and getting your name checked off or filing a postal vote, is mandatory in Australia.

  41. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Majority Will: Lachen ist gesund.

    Reminds me of a quote I saw on Facebook.
    “Today, tell some one you love them, because live is short…but shout it at them in German, because it is also confusing and terrifying!”

  42. Majority Will says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Reminds me of a quote I saw on Facebook.
    “Today, tell some one you love them, because live is short…but shout it at them in German, because it is also confusing and terrifying!”

    🙂

  43. JD Reed says:

    scott e:
    i just signed orly’s petition, i’m probably the only one here who did, but that’s ok, that’s what makes our country great. i was surprised she had quite a few signers. she sure is tenacious. doc, i’m glad you made contact with her, she’s a trip on the phone, but i find her energetic and quite endearing.
    i still don’t know why i can’t get an answer to if marco rubio is eligible (even from marco himself). i hope the supreme court defines natural born soon. i still hope to find out if obama is knowingly hiding something in his past that could be epic or consequential, but i am convincing some people anyway, that it’s all still open to investigation and scrutiny, and lively conversation. that’s why i never worry that it will all work out, one way or txe other.

    Rubio’s eligible. Born in the USA, not of diplomatic or invading military parentage. Case closed. Move on.

  44. This article has been updated to include some prank entries.

  45. aesthetocyst says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    This article has been updated to include some prank entries.

    And thereby explained the “DC bump” (and subsequent deflation) in your poll! LOL!

  46. ASK Esq says:

    The number of signers of Orly’s petition, along with the number of e-mails generated, is irrelevant. This is not any sort of official government petition site. This is just one of any number of online petition sites. They are meaningless and without even the scant weight that the White House petition site has. This online petition is not worth the paper it is written on.

  47. Monkey Boy says:

    Bob: I think those are “on purpose” spelling/grammatical errors but it’s in all caps, angry, ugly, insulting and vaguely threatening so Orly puts it through.

    I have it on good authority that this is someone punking Orly and birthers.

  48. Monkey Boy says:

    Dr Kenneth Noisewater: And Rand Paul was rightfully mocked.He has an opportunity to ask something of the Secretary of State and instead decides to ask about a conspiracy theory he heard on a fringe website for which he has no proof.He even went on the talk shows saying he has no proof of his claim and yet he made it anyway.Rand is a naive fool just as you are.

    Rand Paul was obviously adopted.

  49. Monkey Boy: Rand Paul was obviously adopted.

    Not to argue, but no. He’s a crackpot like his father.

    Here’s the scoop on Rand Paul: http://tinyurl.com/acod5aj

  50. Here is the entire series of prank entries from January 17:

    I M DUMB (MT)
    WAH HOO POO (KY)
    WHITE HOOD WEARER (SC)
    WAIT WUT? (CA)
    U R LOSERS (IN)
    OLD WHITE PEOPLE (AZ)
    RACISTS HATE THE PRESIDENT (SC)
    BIRFERS R DUMB (CA)
    LOL 4 MORE YEARS YO! (VA)
    SUK ONDAT (TX)
    WANNA STOP INAUGURATION? (MS)
    BETTER HURRY (MO)
    POOR BIRFERS (KS)
    SORE LOSERS (TX)
    I BARACK OBAMA (DC)
    DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR (DC)
    THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY (DC)
    THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT (DC)
    OF THE UNITED STATES (DC)
    AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY (DC)
    PRESERVE PROTECT AND DEFENT (DC)
    THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES (DC)
    SUCKAZ !!! (DC)
    I HAVE BLACKMAILED JOHN ROBERTS (DC)
    HE’LL NEVER TELL MY SECRET (DC)
    ALL YOUR CASES R BELONG TO ME (DC)
    BWAHAHAHAHAHA (DC)
    WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE (DC)
    WHAT I HAVE PLANNED (DC)
    FOR MY 3RD TERM (DC)
    OOPS, DID I SAY THAT OUT LOUD? (DC)
    ALL WHITE PEOPLE (DC)
    WHO DON’T SUBMIT (DC)
    TO MY RULES (DC)
    WILL BE ROUNDED UP (DC)
    AND PUT INTO FEMA CAMPS (DC)
    YOU THOUGHT THOSE WERE FOR HURRICANES (DC)
    DIDN’T YOU? (DC)
    NOW YOU KNOW (DC)
    THE GUNS WILL BE GONE (DC)
    EXCEPT FOR MY MINIONS (DC)
    I HAVE PAID WELL FOR THEIR LOYALTY (DC)
    HOW DO YOU THINK (DC)
    THE DEFICIT GOT SO BIG? (DC)
    NOW YOU KNOW (DC)
    COME JOIN ME (DC)
    AND TOGETHER WE WILL RULE (DC)
    THE UNIVERSE (DC)
    YOU SEE HOW WELL MY PLAN (DC)
    TO DESTROY THE REPUBLICAN PARTY (DC)
    HAS GONE, YES? (DC)
    I’M COMING FOR YOU NEXT (DC)
    THINK ABOUT IT (DC)
    I’LL WANT YOUR ANSWER (DC)
    BEFORE MONDAY NOON (DC)
    AFTER THAT (DC)
    ALL BETS ARE OFF (DC)
    I WILL RELEASE THE BIDEN (DC)
    ON YOUR CRACKER AZZES (DC)

    aesthetocyst: And thereby explained the “DC bump” (and subsequent deflation) in your poll! LOL!

  51. Pfffffffffttt ! says:

    [Alternate sock puppet Group Think. Doc]

    Dr. K (phony) has an extreme lack of gray matter that hinders his progress to understand the realities of the world.

    Dr. K and his nitwit buddy RC self adulate themselves with their stupid comments on world events with a perception that all other people have no brains; and to the point of making some people who hear them rant wonder if their impotent … about the realities of social behaviors.

    QUESTION: Dr. K and RC are impotent “Y” or “N”?

  52. Daniel says:

    Pfffffffffttt !:
    Dr. K (phony) has an extreme lack of gray matter that hinders his progress to understand the realities of the world.

    Dr. K and his nitwit buddy RC self adulate themselves with their stupid comments on world events with a perception that all other people have no brains; and to the point of making some people who hear them rant wonder if their impotent … about the realities of social behaviors.

    QUESTION: Dr. K and RC are impotent“Y” or “N”?

    And yet they are not the side that has lost 198 cases, and won ZERO….. go figure…

  53. Thomas Brown says:

    Pfffffffffttt !: self adulate themselves

    Well, at least they aren’t self-adulating other people.

    And you have the nerve to call other people stupid?

  54. Monkey Boy says:

    misha marinsky: Not to argue, but no. He’s a crackpot like his father.

    Here’s the scoop on Rand Paul: http://tinyurl.com/acod5aj

    Ron Paul may be a “crack pot” (among other deficiencies), but he is at least intelligent. Rand Paul is flat-out stupid, not merely wrong headed.

    If I were Ron Paul, I would test his DNA against the mailman, meter reader, and cable installer.

  55. Arthur says:

    WAKE-UP!: For the not so informed retards who post on this blog.

    I am NOT retarded. I’m special.

  56. Origuy: Apologies to those living in trailer parks who actually know something about the rest of the world.

    I will NOT accept your apology. That’s all I can afford after paying my taxes, and that fascist health care I had to buy.

    Plus, I have legal bills up the wazoo because of all those pot plants in my mobile home. The fascist police wouldn’t believe me I need it for medical reasons – it’s good for asthma and eczema.

  57. Additional signers of the Taitz petition have been identified as potential hoaxes:

    Rumpleforeskin,S,Beavercreek,OR,writes
    Petergozinya,S,”Lake Oswego”,OR,writes
    Suedabastards,K,Anchorage,AK,writes
    Doochabahg,R,Anchorage,AK,writes
    “I do not agree with this crap”,X,”Beverly Hills”,CA,writes
    Obot328,O,Pittsburgh,PA,writes
    Obot327,O,”New Cuyama”,CA,signed
    “FOO KYU”,,Catawba,OH,signed
    “CHYLD MOE LESTER”,,Abbeville,LA,signed
    “AYNAL PROBE”,,Atlanta,GA,signed
    “JACK MEHOFF-NAO”,,Duarte,CA,signed
    “E NORMUS-DYCK”,,Keene,TX,signed
    “C MY-KHUNT”,,Byron,IL,signed
    “MOUNT MI-SOON”,,Grafton,IA,signed
    “HOLDE MYKOCK”,,Parker,CO,signed
    “SHOT MAHLODE”,,Athens,GA,signed
    “Suk Mah-Ballz”,,Medford,OR,signed
    “FEAVER DREAMZ”,,”Franklin Square”,NY,signed
    “IMA BERFER-DUH”,,Leesburg,VA,signed
    “BIGG WOODY”,,Dublin,GA,signed
    “Needa Hugg”,,Easton,WA,signed
    “Ben Dover”,&,Stockton,AL,signed
    “BERFER FEVER DREAM”,X,Washington,DC,signed
    “IMA STUPID”,B,Washington,DC,signed

    2,593 were just anonymous, which is sort of not really “signed”.

    Notably missing from the list of signers was anyone named “Orly”.

  58. aesthetocyst says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: Additional signers of the Taitz petition have been identified as potential hoaxes:

    Pretty sad when you have to clean someone’s data for them. Made any effort to tabulate and cull the dupes?

    Naturally Taitz just wants a number, the bigger the better. Thus picking the ’emails sent’ total over the ‘signers’ number, and not bothering to look at the data. That takes work! If she valued professional honesty, she’d do the due diligence. Not a priority….

  59. No. Given that over 2500 of them are just “Somebody” and others are common names, matching is not going to be reliable except in those cases where two identical names are together. Since I’m going for percentages rather than absolute numbers, I don’t think the duplicates really matter.

    If the petition gets a lot more entries, I’ll look at the data again.

    aesthetocyst: Made any effort to tabulate and cull the dupes?

  60. Dr Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Pfffffffffttt !: [Alternate sock puppet Group Think. Doc]Dr. K (phony) has an extreme lack of gray matter that hinders his progress to understand the realities of the world. Dr. K and his nitwit buddy RC self adulate themselves with their stupid comments on world events with a perception that all other people have no brains; and to the point of making some people who hear them rant wonder if their impotent … about the realities of social behaviors.QUESTION: Dr. K and RC are impotent “Y” or “N”?

    Except I understand the world perfectly its idiots like you who can’t seem to grasp it. As for the answer to your question, ask your mother.

  61. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    WAKE-UP!:
    For the not so informed retards who post on this blog.

    There are like, a million jokes I could make from this comment, but alas. They are all too easy and predictable, so they would all go right over your head. Go back to sleep now, lil fella! It’ll be juice and cookies time soon!

  62. Sources says:

    [Off topic material removed. Doc]

    The GREAT DAY for AMERICA will come when the USURPER FRAUD is put in jail.

  63. Andrew Vrba, PmG: It’ll be milk and cookies time soon!

    FIFY

  64. Sources: The GREAT DAY for AMERICA will come when the USURPER FRAUD is put in jail.

    I agree. I found Obama’s Kenya BC. Fireworks! See for yourself:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

  65. Northland10 says:

    Pfffffffffttt !:
    [Alternate sock puppet Group Think. Doc]

    Dr. K (phony) has an extreme lack of gray matter that hinders his progress to understand the realities of the world.

    Dr. K and his nitwit buddy RC self adulate themselves with their stupid comments on world events with a perception that all other people have no brains; and to the point of making some people who hear them rant wonder if their impotent … about the realities of social behaviors.

    QUESTION: Dr. K and RC are impotent“Y” or “N”?

    So you come here to complain (i.e. pout) about how Dr. Ken and Reality Check debunk Mark Gillar. Nice trangulation.

  66. Northland10 says:

    Sources:
    [Off topic material removed. Doc]

    The GREAT DAY for AMERICA will come when the USURPER FRAUD is put in jail.

    I’d be happy with her just being disbarred. No need to be greedy.

  67. RoadScholar says:

    Sources:
    [Off topic material removed. Doc]

    The GREAT DAY for AMERICA will come when the USURPER FRAUD is put in jail.

    OK pal. I’ve got $1000 says that will never happen. But to put a concrete time limit on it, let’s say my wager is that Obama will not be jailed, will not be removed from office, will not be impeached, censured, or otherwise adjudicated to be ineligible, by midnight on December 31st 2016.

    Put your money where your mouth is. You’re so sure BHO is a fraud, take the damn bet. Doc knows (as does anyone who’s been reading this blog regularly) who I am and how I can be reached.

    Oh, and you don’t win if the President is killed by a right-wing nut job. God forbid.

  68. I just signed three times. I also rubbed some salt into the wound.

  69. RoadScholar: Oh, and you don’t win if the President is killed by a right-wing nut job. God forbid.

    From Orly’s petition: “PLEASE GOD TAKE OUR PRESIDENT, HE NEEDS HELP NOW, SO TAKE HIM EARLY! I PROMISE TO PUT MORE IN THE COLLECTION PLATE!”

  70. The Cyrillic didn’t quite work.

    misha marinsky: I just signed three times

  71. scott e says:

    misha marinsky:
    I just signed three times. I also rubbed some salt into the wound.

    ******

    see, this is the kind of thing i’m talking about with behavior. normal adults wouldn’t engage like this if they knew there was no doubt. i think you would all have let this go years ago.

    i was just getting ready to post a question about who the fake name (petition) pranksters might be. (fogbow). so the question remains… why all this for a dead or non issue ? if i did the same thing, libs would have no trouble calling me a hater. what’s up with the double standard ??

  72. The crank comments seem decidedly too unsophisticated for most of the Fogbow crowd (or for the regulars here). I see glimpses on Twitter, for example, and other forums of some number of unaffiliated birther haters. And I don’t mind using the word “hate” either. There are people who downright hate Orly Taitz. They view her in the same extreme way that she views Obama. “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction” applies to extreme behavior from the birthers and how some people react to them.

    For most people, there is the moderating influence of good judgment, understanding consequences and aversion to extreme behavior.

    scott e: i was just getting ready to post a question about who the fake name (petition) pranksters might be. (fogbow).

  73. scott e says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    The crank comments seem decidedly too unsophisticated for most of the Fogbow crowd (or for the regulars here). I see glimpses on Twitter, for example, and other forums of some number of unaffiliated birther haters. And I don’t mind using the word “hate” either. There are people who downright hate Orly Taitz. They view her in the same extreme way that she views Obama. “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction” applies to extreme behavior from the birthers and how some people react to them.

    For most people, there is the moderating influence of good judgment, understanding consequences and aversion to extreme behavior.

    **

    birtherism has taken on a life of it’s own as sort of a game, i find it to be very interesting.
    i was just pointing out what i believe to be hypocritical or double standardish.
    i still say obama’s life story ends up in a trainwreck. i do hope i’m wrong though.
    i don’t know where the extreme behavior is, you would have to elaborate on that. perhaps perhaps something like sabotaging a petition, who else but the antibirthers, but there is no threat right ?

  74. I think the extremism is limited to the keyboard, nasty remarks and threats made by folks on both side on Internet forums, and as you mentioned, online petitions. Birthers engage in what some have called “paper terrorism” in reference to repeated abusive litigation.

    Some birthers have made threats against the President and have been visited by the Secret Service, although these instances seem to have ended up with a determination that someone was just shooting off their mouth.

    One anti-birther was convicted of threatening Sheriff Arpaio over his birther dalliance, but again this was just keyboard venting.

    When one looks at what the birthers and the anti-birthers have actually done, it amounts to very little in the big picture. The birthers have caused considerable legal expenses for state and federal government. The anti-birthers saw Obama re-elected, but he probably would have been re-elected without them. In the small picture, fringe beliefs belligerently held put a strain on families.

    That might change in the future if anti-birthers succeed in getting a huge judgment against Orly Taitz in Mississippi, that would be a serious consequence. That is the biggest threat out there.

    scott e: i don’t know where the extreme behavior is, you would have to elaborate on that. perhaps perhaps something like sabotaging a petition, who else but the antibirthers, but there is no threat right ?

  75. Paper says:

    I myself might have let this go, as you say, stopped paying attention long ago, except for two things. 1) My family is overrun with birthers/conspiracy theorists, and as a result it is in my face every time I turn this way or that. 2) I like Dr. Conspiracy’s blog.

    Fortunately, I choose my friends well, and in life I practically never discuss this stuff with them, except the occasional crazy story, because no one cares about such idiotic ideas.

    If I could just give up Dr. C’s blog, I’d have a chance. If only his writing wasn’t so intelligent and thoughtful, researched well and done in a Christian spirit, organized comfortably and presented with such an accommodating style…if only it hadn’t been such a resource and sanctuary in the face of my family’s absurdities.

    I have made great progress, but of all the conspiracy theories rampant in my family, somehow I find it difficult to just let birtherism slide past. Actually, I know why. Because with birtherism a couple of them have become abusive to the extreme, verging on violence, and the topic brings out such reprehensible characteristics in them that I find it hard sometimes to fathom that I come from this family.

    scott e: see, this is the kind of thing i’m talking about with behavior. normal adults wouldn’t engage like this if they knew there was no doubt. i think you would all have let this go years ago.

  76. I’m blushing.

    Paper: If I could just give up Dr. C’s blog, I’d have a chance. If only his writing wasn’t so intelligent and thoughtful, researched well and done in a Christian spirit, organized comfortably and presented with such an accommodating style…if only it hadn’t been such a resource and sanctuary in the face of my family’s absurdities.

  77. This article has been updated.

  78. donna says:

    Paper:

    and don’t forget doc’s “art” and graphic additions – he’s amazing – he could just include all you posted and it would still be extraordinary – the additions make his articles so much more outstanding

  79. aesthetocyst says:

    She’s just over 24K emails sent, or ‘signers’ whichever you prefer.

    She posted a real doozy today, concerning “That 70s Show” ( LOL ) …. which has since been yanked (booooo). Was at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=386149 which is now 404.

    It wasn’t up long enough to be cached by Google. I think someone punked her and she fell for it. And perhaps, for once, realized she was being punked.

    Fez was based on Obama!

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