Orly Taitz ~ U.S. Supreme Court Grants Expedited Decision On Obama Fraud For Tuesday February 19, 2013

Happy Presidents Day, by the way.

I got the title of this article from Twitter this morning. I’ve spent a little time replying to such things online, and what I say is that the only thing “decided” last Friday, and to be announced February 19, is whether the Supreme Court will grant a stay of the counting of votes in the 2012 Presidential Election in California.

pot of melted cheeseGiven that Bender’s time travel codes are as fictional as Taitz’s allegations of a stolen Obama social-security number, there is no way the Supreme Court can stay something that happened already: It would create a time paradox in which both the Obots and the birthers would meld into a vat of temporally overheated Cheese Whiz. Since Taitz hasn’t even filed a petition for the Supreme Court to hear the substance of her appeal, there is nothing for them to decide about “Obama fraud” even if they were inclined to do so; and even if she had filed a writ of certiorari, the Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, and all they would do in any case would to be to refer the case back to the original court for a trial.

Nevertheless, I have grown tired of trying to explain this to birthers, so I give up. The Supreme Court did indeed decide the question of social-security fraud in the case of Obama and they will announce their decision tomorrow, and if dismissed, that means that Orly Taitz’ entire pile of evidence is wrong, her theories are wrong, and the birthers have lost well and truly, let them forever hold their peace. Amen.

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94 Responses to Orly Taitz ~ U.S. Supreme Court Grants Expedited Decision On Obama Fraud For Tuesday February 19, 2013

  1. I am glad Taitz has whipped up all the phony excitement over this. It will make the denial of the motion for stay tomorrow all the sweeter. A very close friend of mine, Fred Muggs on Facebook, made an offer on Orly’s FB page to wager $1000 that the motion will be denied. So far there is not a single Birther who will stand up and support Orly.

  2. The Magic M says:

    > there is no way the Supreme Court can stay something that happened already

    And even if Orly’s case passed that hurdle, SCOTUS still could not tell Congress what to vote for or not.

    Even in the parallel universe where Obama is ineligible, the best birthers could hope for is SCOTUS officially declaring said ineligibility and thus making Congress’ certification of the EC votes moot/void. But that is not what Orly is demanding, interestingly (one would expect if she really were after all paths to success, she would have included such a demand in her case – which again proves to me she does not want to win).

    > and if dismissed, that means that Orly Taitz’ entire pile of evidence is wrong, her theories are wrong, and the birthers have lost well and truly

    Which is why Orly has spent the last weeks hammering the “SCOTUS judges didn’t see my case, dem ebil black and Turkish clerks are to blame” meme into the minds of her followers. After all, it becomes kinda hard to claim “no court has ruled…” otherwise.

    > let them forever hold their peace

    Yeah right, as if… 😉

  3. Mitch says:

    Prepare for cries of “Treason!” from the birthers, led by Taitz.

  4. Having waded through the Birther echo chambers on Twitter over the last 3 days, I can confidently predict that there are going to be a lot of disappointed and puzzled people out there on Tuesday if (as we expect) the word Denied appears next to the result of the 15th February conference.
    The key things that consistently appear in the Birther tweets never change. They are one or more of the following:
    1. There was a hearing on 15th February
    2. The hearing was ordered by John Roberts
    3. Orly’s compelling and conclusive evidence of SS fraud etc. sent to SCOTUS was reviewed at the hearing
    4. A decision will come down on Tuesday to order a full hearing and Obama will be in Deep Trouble immediately
    5. Obama has less than 30 days before he is deposed/impeached/led away in chains/(insert Birther fantasy du jour here)

    I have corrected a bunch of tweeters already on this crap, but as I suspected, their prevailing approach to contrary information is a variant on “bzzzz I can’t hear you…”. Disappointingly, I have yet to be told that I am an Obot. They must be losing their touch….

  5. Bob says:

    Tomorrow’s headline today:

    OBOTS WIN! OBOTS WIN! OBOTS WIN!

  6. donna says:

    Graham Shevlin:

    i have even seen that there will be “oral arguments” when she wins:

    Obama Eligibility Case Requested To Move To Oral Arguments At US Supreme Court Dr. Orly Taitz, Esquire

    seriously???

  7. Jim F says:

    There are three possibilities.
    1. The SC decides not to list Orly’s case in which case the Turkish and Black clerks have duped the court and are guilty of treason. I follows from this that the judges are also guilty of treason for accepting the opinions of Turkish and Black clerks.

    2 The court moves to hear the full case and after rejecting the arguements the judges are guilty of treason.

    3. She wins the case (I know, I know)

    It seems that she cannot lose! She is fond of sending her briefs (what an image) to the international courts so maybe that is the next step.

  8. Andrew Morris says:

    She’s delusional. And lazy and/or stupid. She know claims that the clerks hid her submissions from the Court, because they returned 5 of the 9 copies she filed. But the rules do not require a copy for each Justice, so she totally misunderstood the contexual use of the word “copies”. Let’s put that down to her being a foreigner, although she makes many ill-informed and racist remarks about other people not being American-born. Nor does she acknowledge that her motion was filed for only one Justice, not the entire Court. And if there really was a conspiracy, why would they return the surplus copies, as opposed to just destoying them.

  9. BrianH says:

    Other choices:

    NY Times version: “Obama Vindicated by Supreme Court”
    NY Post version: “SUPREMES ON OBAMA: ‘CRAZY ‘BOUT THE GUY;’ STIFLE BIRTHERS”

    Bob:
    Tomorrow’s headline today:

    OBOTS WIN!OBOTS WIN!OBOTS WIN!

  10. Is that the Harry Caray version? 😆

    Bob:
    Tomorrow’s headline today:

    OBOTS WIN!OBOTS WIN!OBOTS WIN!

  11. Bob says:

    Of course the clerks would want to make their own copies to distribute to the justices in order to insure that the judges were all looking at the same thing and not wasting their time.

  12. Birther Weary says:

    So, to date she’s publicly accused the SC Justices of treason, she thinks the “Turkish and black” clerks are traitors, she has no idea what evidence is, yet has no problem demanding that her flying monkeys go to their local police and demand investigations of whomever her demented mind thinks is the enemy of the day.

    How does she get away with it? Seriously.

    I guess disbarment is off the table, but how about sanctions from every court that she’s libeled? Defamation of character lawsuits filed by the people she’s attacked?

    What am I missing here?

  13. Andrew Morris says:

    But you keep coming back to the same question: does this woman actually have a law degree gained through her own efforts? She doesn’t understand the Constitution, or how the courts work. She doesn’t read the rules. She defames pretty much everyone, commits contempt of court, and preaches this holier-than-thou nonsense which is a bit rich seeing as how she’s alleged to have had at least one affair with another birfer. You wonder how her family puts up with it, but I suppose the answer is that it keeps her away from them.

  14. Andrew Morris says:

    Birther Weary
    I guess disbarment is off the table

    But why? A doctor with this level of incompetence would lose his license. Absolutely she should lose the right to practise (what an apt work) law. She is abusing her privileges as an attorney, subjecting people to significant personal cost, and her abilities are about those of a toddler. I used to live in England. If she’d pulled these stunts there, then by now she’d have been thrown out of the profession, declared a vexatious litigant, sanctioned, probably jailed for contempt and possibly have her citizenship removed and sent back to Moldova.

  15. J.D. Sue says:

    Andrew Morris: She know claims that the clerks hid her submissions from the Court, because they returned 5 of the 9 copies she filed.

    Seems this vast conspiracy also required a time warp. She says she sent 9+ copies on December 26th (when she resubmitted her stay petition to Justice Roberts), and that the Clerk returned 5 copies to her in a package with a postal stamp of December 21st. I guess this just proves that the U.S. Postal Service is also forging date stamps…

  16. J.D. Sue says:

    Andrew Morris: Birther Weary
    I guess disbarment is off the table
    But why?

    Disbarment is never off the table. The only real question is why it hasn’t happened already.

  17. Birther Weary says:

    Andrew Morris:
    Birther Weary
    I guess disbarment is off the table

    But why? A doctor with this level of incompetence would lose his license. Absolutely she should lose the right to practise (what an apt work) law. She is abusing her privileges as an attorney, subjecting people to significant personal cost, and her abilities are about those of a toddler.

    I have no idea. Like you, I find it impossible to believe that she passed the CA Bar. I don’t know what procedures are in place to prevent having a ringer take your place, but there’s a huge loophole somewhere in the system, and she found it.

  18. donna says:

    On Sunday, a leading birther plaintiff claimed that clerks of the U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS) never forwarded to five out of nine justices one single page of pleadings. (photos)

    http://www.examiner.com/slideshow/noonan-vs-bowen-material-u-s-supreme-court#slide=59003996

    and let’s not forget her all important supplemental brief that she filed on the 10th though it’s not listed on the docket

  19. Andrew Morris says:

    If she read the rules, she’d know that (a) you don’t file briefs for this kind of hearing and (b) that there are very strict time limits – you don’t deliver this stuff the week of the hearing. Funny, I thought they taught this at law school.

  20. J.D. Sue says:

    donna: On Sunday, a leading birther plaintiff claimed that clerks of the U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS) never forwarded to five out of nine justices one single page of pleadings. (photos)

    —-

    These poor clerks are being slandered with Taitz’s claim in numerous publications today. Funny how none of these “journalists” seem to notice that the returned 5 copies were post-marked December 21st–fully five days BEFORE she claims to have sent them to Roberts. (From her site: “On 12.26.2012 Attorney for Plaintiffs resubmitted her application to the Chief Justice John Roberts, who referred the case to the conference of all 9 Justices to be conducted on February 15, 2013. Taitz followed Rule 22 of the Supreme Court that stated “Renewed application is made by a letter to the clerk, designating the Justice to whom the application is to be directed, and accompanied by copies of the original application…” these copies were supposed to be forwarded to 9 individual justices, library of Congress and National Archives.”)

  21. J.D. Sue says:

    Andrew Morris: Funny, I thought they taught this at law school.


    Yeah, and they also teach law students not to slander justices and judges… It’s not exactly proper or persuasive.

  22. BrianH says:

    Part of me wonders the same thing: whether Taitz’s obsessive fixation on President Obama’s credentials and documentation is at heart an act of self-loathing due to her own improperly obtained degree and license (in the way the greatest outward homophobes are often closeted gays).

    Birther Weary[ I ] find it impossible to believe that she passed the CA Bar. I don’t know what procedures are in place to prevent having a ringer take your place, but there’s a huge loophole somewhere in the system, and she found it.

  23. Threefiddy says:

    Looks like WND has gotten out of the Birther biz.. I haven’t seen anything from them recently..
    They once called it the story of the century.. What happened?

  24. james says:

    ex- president clintin is the one who started the birther thing stated in 2008 when the time was right.. hummmm! so bill said!!! look it up or scrub it!!!!!

  25. Yoda says:

    Birther Weary: How does she get away with it? Seriously.

    Has anyone considered the possibility that she doesn’t want to get away with it?

    If you accept the probability that she actually believes what she says, that there is a vast conspiracy and that we are under a tyrannical regime, would not her being punished for going against the regime work to her advantage with her flying monkeys.

    Look at Lakin. Those in the rational thinking world know that he plead guilty and, at least at his hearing, expressed remorse for refusing to obey an order. We know that he was not punished for demanding to see the President’s credentials. But he is a martyr and a hero in birferstan. Would not disbarment and imprisonment be a ticket to immortality for Orly, even if only in her own eyes? She has not received any real significant sanctions ($24,000 over the course of 5 years is nothing given her conduct), so why not push the envelope further and further until she she becomes a political prison who was punished for daring to challenge the “regime”?

    By any logical analysis, she cannot win. There are only two possibilities, she is either right or she is wrong. If she is wrong she can never win in the long run. If she is right, then part of her being right is that the entire judicial system is corrupt, been bought off or threatened and as a result, she cannot win. In either case, she has no rational expectation of victory, at least not in the method that she chose. Given this truism, a rational person would choose a different approach. She hasn’t. Therefore, I must conclude, from a logical standpoint, that she has ulterior motives which is rooted in losing.

    I think that it is to be the thought of as the selfless, tireless hero that she believes herself to be in her own mind. Given the fact that it is impossible for her to win, she must make mileage out of losing. This is why we see the repeated concept of “I have him now” in her tactics. She creates a frenzy among her flying monkeys that makes it seem like she can’t lose, then blames it on the corrupt regime when she does–thus making her both a hero and a victim among her followers.

    Either that or she is nucking futz.

  26. Mary Brown says:

    Amen Yoda.

  27. DaveH says:

    Yes. I am positive you are correct about that James. What I find odd is that so many Republicans decided to believe Bill and continue to spread the lies. After all, isn’t he one of the enemies in the right’s eyes?

    james:
    ex- president clintin is the one who started the birther thing stated in 2008 when the time was right.. hummmm! so bill said!!! look it up or scrub it!!!!!

  28. Woodrowfan says:

    Reality Check:
    Is that the Harry Caray version?

    No, that would be “OBOTS WIN! OBOTS WIN! LET’S DRINK A BUD!”

  29. Bob says:

    Perhaps Orly has a form of Münchausen Syndrome and creating a problem where there is none. Instead of the imaginary issue being medical it’s legal.

    At any rate, an extended stay (about four years) at one of our secret FEMA camps is in order for a thorough evaluation, testing, shock treatments, and therapy.

  30. Bob says:

    james:
    ex- president clintin is the one . . .

    He got the answer to his question which is that Obama is eligible and then he moved on like a normal person does.

  31. BatGuano says:

    Bob:
    Tomorrow’s headline today:

    …..

    Orly Defeats Truman!

  32. Rickey says:

    donna:

    and let’s not forget her all important supplemental brief that she filed on the 10th though it’s not listed on the docket

    If Orly bothered to read the rules (which as we know she never does). she would see that SCOTUS limits supplement briefs to 15 pages. Hers is 63 pages, including her zibits.

  33. alg says:

    I predict that Orly’s loss at the Supreme Court will motivate her to call for armed insurrection to “restore” the Republic.

    Honestly, can anyone here imagine what living in the Taitz household must be like? And, who in their right mind would ever seek dentistry services from her? Try for a moment to imagine what her marital sex life must be like – kind of puts a new spin on “let me finish!” The thought leaves one permanently flaccid.

  34. Benji Franklin says:

    Rickey: If Orly bothered to read the rules (which as we know she never does). she would see that SCOTUS limits supplement briefs to 15 pages. Hers is 63 pages, including her zibits.

    She obviously is an emotional wreck. But her social behavior is entirely consistent with that of an eighth grade girl who is a scatter-brained speed-reader in several languages, has actually witnessed brutal political oppression in another country while growing up, and has no sense of perspective about how to gauge her exaggerated notion of the real level of menace that exists here in the United States, short of assuming that every act she disapproves of heralds a freedom-ending catastrophe brought about by conspiring “enemies”, which include anybody who disagrees with her. She shares with querulous complainers, the belief that among one’s personal character traits, persistence trumps sanity.

    It certainly has in her case!

  35. Orly’s entire writings over the last week are simply designed to pre-inoculate herself and her surpporters for the cry of “The Fix Is In!” when the Stay petition is denied. The birther echo chamber in Twitter is on fire right now recycling her allegations about SCOTUS clerk corruption and treason, plus a whole bunch of other miscellaneous poo. I just got involved in a smackdown of somebody dredging up a Youtube video from Purpura v. Sibelius, claiming that Obama’s lawyer admitted that the birth cert was a fake (Obama has no lawyer at the hearing, it was the lawyer for the SoS whose position was that the BC had nothing to do with the case). Right now, the birthers are like vultures, swooping on anything that might be carrion.

  36. bgansel9 says:

    Therefore, I must conclude, from a logical standpoint, that she has ulterior motives which is rooted in losing.

    I think that it is to be the thought of as the selfless, tireless hero that she believes herself to be in her own mind.Given the fact that it is impossible for her to win, she must make mileage out of losing.This is why we see the repeated concept of “I have him now” in her tactics.She creates a frenzy among her flying monkeys that makes it seem like she can’t lose, then blames it on the corrupt regime when she does–thus making her both a hero and a victim among her followers.

    Either that or she is nucking futz.

    I’ll take Nucking Futz for $800, Alex. Even if she is trying to martyr herself, that ALSO is nucking futz. No sane person martyrs themselves on purpose.

  37. bgansel9 says:

    Sorry Yoda, I was going to blockquote you and then found out I had to log back in and I screwed up. Apologies.

  38. Rickey says:

    Graham Shevlin:
    Orly’s entire writings over the last week are simply designed to pre-inoculate herself and her surpporters for the cry of “The Fix Is In!” when the Stay petition is denied. The birther echo chamber in Twitter is on fire right now recycling her allegations about SCOTUS clerk corruption and treason, plus a whole bunch of other miscellaneous poo. I just got involved in a smackdown of somebody dredging up a Youtube video from Purpura v. Sibelius, claiming that Obama’s lawyer admitted that the birth cert was a fake (Obama has no lawyer at the hearing, it was the lawyer for the SoS whose position was that the BC had nothing to do with the case). Right now, the birthers are like vultures, swooping on anything that might be carrion.

    Yes, the wailing and gnashing of teeth will begin in about ten hours.

    I have seen birther comments that there was a trial held “behind closed doors” (gasp!) on Friday. They have no clue about how SCOTUS operates and they have no interest in educating themselves. Try to tell them there was no trial and no hearing and it’s all “I can’t hear you!”

  39. bob rob says:

    Seriously, you are all full of shit.

  40. Dr C: Your vat of yellow, reminds me of this –

    Picasso Used House Paint

    Recently, scientists at the Argonne National Laboratory near Chicago analyzed Picasso’s painting “The Red Armchair”, and discovered that Picasso used regular house paint.

    http://history1900s.about.com/b/2013/02/14/picasso-used-house-paint.htm

  41. The bottom of the birther barrel.

    bob rob: Seriously, you are all full of shit.

  42. Allinall says:

    The underlying question minus all the retoric…. Where is his birth certificate and social security card? Why not just show all his documentation of citizenship and it would all be done. All the BS back and forth…. Just produce the proof!!!!!!

  43. bob rob: Seriously, you are all full of shit.

    Allinall: Where is his birth certificate

    Good points. Here is the Kenya BC you are looking for:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

  44. bob rob: Seriously, you are all full of sh!t.

    Allinall: Where is his birth certificate

    Good points. Here is the Kenya BC you are looking for:

    http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2009/09/another-kenyan-birth-certificate.html

  45. The Magic M says:

    Allinall: Where is his birth certificate

    In Hawaii.

    Allinall: and social security card

    Where is GWB’s? Which other president ever showed, let alone had to show it? How does it relate to eligibility? Not at all.

    Allinall: show all his documentation of citizenship

    You mean like all other presidents have not done before? Or how is this not “show us your papers, boy”?

    Allinall: and it would all be done

    Like your ilk said about “show us the BC” and “show us the long form”. Right. Fool me once…

    Allinall: Just produce the proof

    What more proof than

    (1) public display of the scanned certified copy (PDF)

    (2) public presentation of the certified copy (press conference)

    (3) confirmation over confirmation over confirmation from the Hawaiian authorities that the BC exists in the vault and is identical to what was shown in (1) and (2)

    do you want? Do you want to personally go into the Hawaiian vault and look at the vault BC? And how would that convince you it’s legit? You couldn’t tell an apple from an orange if it meant you could keep your “he’s not my president” meme alive.

  46. roadburner says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: The bottom of the birther barrel.

    there’s a bottom to it?

    now that’s scary!

  47. The Magic M says:

    Bob: Perhaps Orly has a form of Münchausen Syndrome and creating a problem where there is none. Instead of the imaginary issue being medical it’s legal.

    Interesting idea. It would reconcile the two opposing views of “she is crazy” (opinion shared by most of you) and “she f***s up on purpose” (my opinion). It would just give another explanation for screwing up on purpose: not, as I theorized, because she actually wants a violent overthrow of the government and tries to enforce the idea of “no court will even hear me, there are no legal remedies”, but because she wants the attention that comes with being a martyr, a failing hero (because obviously she could never be a successful hero).

    (BTW I just learned it’s really “Münchausen” with a single “h” in English; the guy’s actual name was “Münchhausen” with two “h”‘s, pronounced “mynch-how-sen” in German with the “ch” as in the Scottish “loch”.)

  48. Allinall says:

    In Hawaii is your response? You morons are getting dumber by the minute!!! He may need to fly on down to Hawaii and pick that up seeing how he’s going to need it to apply for any government aid. But let me understand this correct he didn’t need proof to be president but I have to turn in certified ssc and bc for my children to play summer league ball? And as far as GWB I sure those were provided as mine were when I enlisted in the military. However as odumer didn’t even register with selective service we all have an understanding HE would NOT be serving his country!!!

  49. roadburner says:

    Allinall: In Hawaii is your response? You morons are getting dumber by the minute!!! He may need to fly on down to Hawaii and pick that up seeing how he’s going to need it to apply for any government aid. But let me understand this correct he didn’t need proof to be president but I have to turn in certified ssc and bc for my children to play summer league ball? And as far as GWB I sure those were provided as mine were when I enlisted in the military. However as odumer didn’t even register with selective service we all have an understanding HE would NOT be serving his country!!!

    congratulations!

    you win todays prize for the most debunked birfoon memes in one post!

    you win a prefrontal lobotomy! – just the thing for improving that sorely lacking birfoon I.Q.

  50. Bovril says:

    Dear Drool’n’All

    With your plainly encyclopedic knowledge of the Constitution, laws ‘n stuff could you please inform we poor souls exactly what it is you are after?

    You ask about the Presidents BC and where it is located and received a short, pithy and accurate response

    The Presidents physical Social Security card is probably sitting in a safe somewhere along with things like wills and other personal and professional documents.

    Since as President he is paid and will receive a pension, has earned large sums throughs his books and as an ex President will be in great demand for speaking engagements etc I find it hard to believe he will in need of government assistance.

    I might add that you did not need to show your BC to claim your SS benefits did you…

  51. Kris says:

    I find it very sad that Orly’s minions continue to believe everything she says, despite the fact that she has lied to them constantly. The woman has never properly filed, served, or argued anything, but repeatedly blames everyone and anything for her failures. She’s totally incompetent at everything except scamming the paranoid lemmings who consider her as their Lady Liberty.

    She encouraged her followers to think she was actually going to have a hearing and/or trial at SCOTUS, never bothering to correct their misperceptions. She remained silent when they asked if there would be any witnesses and when they wrote about saving seats for each other on this momentous occasion. She displays virtually no knowledge of law and relies on her followers equal lack of knowledge.

    She’s now doing the prep work for her inevitable rejection on Tuesday, once again trying to place the blame on the clerks and the judges, all of whom she falsely characterizes as corrupt and treasonous.

    To paraphrase, there will soon be the “screech heard ’round the world” as Dr. Orly Taitz, Esq reacts to the denial of her nonsensical attempts to stay events that have already occurred.

  52. The Magic M says:

    Allinall: he didn’t need proof to be president

    Yes, he did. The problem is that birthers deny that this ever happened because they weren’t invited to the party.

    Allinall: And as far as GWB I sure those were provided as mine were when I enlisted in the military.

    How can you be “sure”? You are willing to believe the entire government, including the FBI, the military, the SSA, the IRS etc. are all “in on it”, yet you are “sure” that the military didn’t look the other way when GWB enrolled with a forged BC / without a BC / with a BC saying “born in Canada”?

    That’s the hypocrisy and the double standard with you birthers. You “believe” or even “are sure” that everything went a-OK with GWB (about whose “vetting process” you know even less than about Obama’s) and then apply a totally different set of standards to Obama.
    You are willing to believe that the entire Congress is complicit on allowing an ineligible Obama, yet believe that the same Congress (I guess at least 1/3 of them, likely many more, were around during GWB’s second term) did not partake in a similar conspiracy to allow an ineligible GWB? Why? What singles out Obama? His furrin name? His furrin dad? None of this is enough to give GWB a pass if you are as “critical” and “worried about the Constitution” as you pretend to be.
    (My favourite part is birthers claiming that stuff they “uncovered” in 2012 – like the promo flyer – somehow justifies going birther in 2008…)

    Allinall: as odumer didn’t even register with selective service

    What makes you “sure” GWB ever did? Have you seen his SS application? Has Sheriff Joe checked it to “clear the former president”?

    Still it all boils down to holding the black guy (or, if you think you can cry “he pulled the race card”, the Democratic Party’s President) to a different standard than any other president before.

    You simply cannot reconcile your alleged “skepticism” with the fact that you simply “believe” that nobody ever conspired to hide another president’s ineligibility.

    Allinall: seeing how he’s going to need it to apply for any government aid

    Is that a “clever” amalgamation of “any day now” and racism (as in “as a black guy, he’ll need to live off government aid”)?

    Then let me end this reply on a clever note:

    Allinall, you’re just another brick in the wall. (As in “dumb as a …” ;))

  53. As were Obama’s when he got his first passport at age 6.

    What’s your point?

    Allinall: And as far as GWB I sure those were provided as mine were when I enlisted in the military.

  54. You can’t show a blind man anything, and you would be a fool to try.

    Allinall: The underlying question minus all the retoric…. Where is his birth certificate and social security card? Why not just show all his documentation of citizenship and it would all be done. All the BS back and forth…. Just produce the proof!!!!!!

  55. GoodHubby says:

    Birther Weary:
    So, to date she’s publicly accused the SC Justices of treason, she thinks the “Turkish and black” clerks are traitors, she has no idea what evidence is, yet has no problem demanding that her flying monkeys go to their local police and demand investigations of whomever her demented mind thinks is the enemy of the day.

    How does she get away with it? Seriously.

    I guess disbarment is off the table, but how about sanctions from every court that she’s libeled? Defamation of character lawsuits filed by the people she’s attacked?

    What am I missing here?

    What you are missing, D.A., is that Obama presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the American people claiming it was authentic, he used the old SSN of one of Michelle’s ancestors, and he knowingly and purposefully lied to the American people about his eligibility to be President. Let that sink in for a start. Then start researching all of the ways he has defied the Constitution which he took an oath to follow.

  56. alg says:

    Allinall:
    The underlying question minus all the retoric…. Where is his birth certificate and social security card? Why not just show all his documentation of citizenship and it would all be done. All the BS back and forth…. Just produce the proof!!!!!!

    Been there, done that. Where’s yours? Would you please post your social security number, name, age and current address here so that I can confirm you’re for real?

  57. Dr Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Allinall: The underlying question minus all the retoric…. Where is his birth certificate and social security card? Why not just show all his documentation of citizenship and it would all be done. All the BS back and forth…. Just produce the proof!!!!!!

    They’re exactly where they should be. I think the better question is: Is your refrigerator running?

  58. Dr Kenneth Noisewater says:

    GoodHubby: What you are missing, D.A., is that Obama presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the American people claiming it was authentic, he used the old SSN of one of Michelle’s ancestors, and he knowingly and purposefully lied to the American people about his eligibility to be President. Let that sink in for a start. Then start researching all of the ways he has defied the Constitution which he took an oath to follow.

    There was nothing fraudelent about it. The Department of Health says it’s legit. He used his own social issued to him in 1977. He didn’t lie about his eligibility. He is President the 12th amendment is pretty clear on this.

  59. Scientist says:

    GoodHubby: What you are missing, D.A., is that Obama presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the American people claiming it was authentic, he used the old SSN of one of Michelle’s ancestors, and he knowingly and purposefully lied to the American people about his eligibility to be President. Let that sink in for a start. Then start researching all of the ways he has defied the Constitution which he took an oath to follow.

    Have you read “The Great Debate” thread here? Bob Gard has done a great job showing that the Founding Fathers were all liars. Everyone in American history is a scam artist and fraud. Bob has proven that beyond a reasonable doubt. So, if Obama were a liar it would simply be a part of the great tradition from George Washington onwards. Next question….

  60. Nina says:

    http://blog.womenexplode.com/2011/10/07/snopes-soros-and-the-supreme-courts-kagan.aspx

    [Even WorldNetDaily admitted those cases that Kagan worked on were not Obama eligibility cases. Doc]

  61. bgansel9 says:

    The recent birther responses on this thread confirm for me the exercise I tried out on Google last night.

    1. Open Google
    2. Plug in the term “Birthers”
    3. Open the search options tools and click on “Reading Level.”

    As it turns out, “results by reading level for birthers” shows that less than 1% read at an advanced level.

    😛

  62. donna says:

    bgansel9: As it turns out, “results by reading level for birthers” shows that less than 1% read at an advanced level.

    i would like a test to confirm that they never read beyond titles – how about a great title like “orly wins lawsuit” but then embedded in the content of the article contains how the reader could collect $100

  63. JiminNM says:

    Pity you poor souls who would rather remain bond servants of the U.S. Federal Government Corporation and Federal Reserve than be free men and women responsible and accountable for yourselves. So, the truth doesn’t matter to you. It seems all that matters is being taken care of at the free people’s expense.

  64. ScottRS says:

    JiminNM:
    (snip) the truth doesn’t matter to you.

    Sayeth the SovCit moonbat, with such a tenuous grasp of reality, let alone the truth. My irony meter explodeth.

  65. Majority Will says:

    JiminNM:
    So, the truth doesn’t matter to you.It seems all that matters is being taken care of at the free people’s expense.

    You’re right. Birther bigots are despicable.

  66. justlw says:

    The weather forecast did call for Birther Tears this morning.

  67. bgansel9 says:

    justlw: The weather forecast did call for Birther Tears this morning.

    Yes, isn’t it a lovely day?

    Apparently, I hear, Orly Taitz doesn’t know how to read. She thinks SCOTUS didn’t make a decision in her case (according to what I’m hearing, I will admit I did not subject my computer to her virus-laden site.)

  68. Thomas Brown says:

    GoodHubby: Let that sink in for a start.

    Everything you said is incorrect. Birthers will believe any story, no matter how preposterous.

    Let just that sink in for a start.

  69. bgansel9 says:

    Message to Orly Taitz, because I know she sometimes reads here:

    The key word: APPLICATIONS (plural). Kwasnik v. MNBA and Noonan v. Bowen were both denied in the same sentence.

    Why a non-lawyer has to point that out to you, though, is beyond me. Maybe you should stick to teeth.

  70. Arthur says:

    JiminNM: It seems all that matters is being taken care of at the free people’s expense.

    Damn straight, Jimbo. Now get to work, feeper; my welfare Cadillac isn’t going to pay for itself.

  71. US Citizen says:

    Jim,

    Could you please send me those guilt-inducing federal reserve notes you have?

  72. The Magic M says:

    bgansel9: Maybe you should stick to teeth.

    Better neither. Since Orly has said several times how her work on Obama cases deprives her of sleep, I shudder to think of the poor patients she has after another sleepless night of writing feverish motions in Obama cases. Nobody wants a tired or manic dentist (and if one does, I’d rather have Steve Martin in “Little Shop of Horrors”).

  73. bgansel9 says:

    The Magic M: Nobody wants a tired or manic dentist (and if one does, I’d rather have Steve Martin in “Little Shop of Horrors”).

    Well, she’s proven that the written language is not her strong suit. She needs to stick to manual labor of some sort.

  74. The Magic M: if one does, I’d rather have Steve Martin in “Little Shop of Horrors”

    Is it safe?

  75. GoodHubby: Obama presented a fraudulent birth certificate to the American people claiming it was authentic, he used the old SSN of one of Michelle’s ancestors, and he knowingly and purposefully lied to the American people about his eligibility to be President…start researching all of the ways he has defied the Constitution which he took an oath to follow.

    As an officer in the International Jewish Conspiracy™, I can confirm all of this is true.

    Thank you for your support.

  76. JiminNM: than be free men and women responsible and accountable for yourselves

    You may live in New Mexico, but you surely don’t live in Santa Fe – waaay too liberal for you.

    And stop calling me Shirley.

  77. Thomas Brown says:

    Arthur: Damn straight, Jimbo. Now get to work, feeper; my welfare Cadillac isn’t going to pay for itself.

    Seconded. Soros’ money only goes so far.

  78. Rickey says:

    JiminNM:
    Pity you poor souls who would rather remain bond servants of the U.S. Federal Government Corporation and Federal Reserve than be free men and women responsible and accountable for yourselves.So, the truth doesn’t matter to you.It seems all that matters is being taken care of at the free people’s expense.

    Bond servants? I’ll have you know that I sit on the Board of Directors of the U.S. Federal Government Corporation.

    “Corporations are people, my friend.” – Mitt Romney

  79. Plantmaster says:

    misha marinsky: As an officer in the International Jewish Conspiracy™, I can confirm all of this is true.

    Thank you for your support.

    Misha, can a shabbas goy join the Conspiracy? 🙂

  80. Plantmaster: Misha, can a shabbas goy join the Conspiracy?

    Of course. You are now an Honorary Jew™.

    You can help me and Soros round up those RWNJ for the FEMA camps. We’ll start with Orly Taitz.

  81. Plantmaster: Misha, can a shabbas goy join the Conspiracy?

    Orly Taitz read the manual:

    http://books.google.com/books/about/How_to_make_yourself_miserable.html?id=qj0Gr0rTk8YC

  82. JPotter says:

    CBS’ Sunday Morning ran a great piece on the Borscht Belt / Catskills this week. I hope Misha caught it. Would love to hear those guys riff on de birfers. “Take my Taitz … please!”

    Heh.

  83. JPotter: CBS’ Sunday Morning ran a great piece on the Borscht Belt / Catskills this week. I hope Misha caught it.

    I saw it. It hurt to see there’s nothing left of the Concord. I spent many Passovers there.

    We stayed in the original cabins, because they would let Lola stay in our rooms. In the new building, it was no pets.

    True story: At the end of each dinner, my step-sister would say to the waiter, “I want a steak to take home.” We’d go to the room, and she would say “Lola – look what I got for you.” And Lola would start barking, and running around in circles. She would then cut up the Porterhouse steak, and Lola would make it disappear in five minutes. That poodle lived better than most people.

    Best joke: A man is stopped by a traffic cop. “Do you know your wife fell out a mile back?”

    The driver says, “Thank G-d. I thought I was going deaf.”

    An elderly man in a synagogue says to the fellow next to him, “STD!! At 81 !!!”

    The other fellow replies, “So? AT&T at 18.”

    Thank you. I’ll be here all week.

  84. chancery says:

    roadburner: there’s a bottom to it?

    now that’s scary!

    Nah, it’s turtles all the way down.

  85. Keith says:

    The Magic M: Better neither. Since Orly has said several times how her work on Obama cases deprives her of sleep, I shudder to think of the poor patients she has after another sleepless night of writing feverish motions in Obama cases. Nobody wants a tired or manic dentist (and if one does, I’d rather have Steve Martin in “Little Shop of Horrors”).

    I was under the impression that she defaulted paying her union dues and is no longer certified to practise.

  86. Keith says:

    misha marinsky: Of course. You are now an Honorary Jew™.

    You can help me and Soros round up those RWNJ for the FEMA camps. We’ll start with Orly Taitz.

    Hermie and Mick used to meet every friday for lunch (this was back in the 50’s). Hermie always ordered steak and laughed at Mick for always ordering the fish. The fish was lousy at their restaurant.

    Mick would return the laughter with a light hearted lecture about how Hermie shoud convert to Catholicism. One day, Hermie surprised him and said OK. After weeks of catecism studies, and the Priests grilling him over his intentions, the big day came and the Priest did the conversion ritual, speaking the words “Born a Jew, Raised a Jew, now a Christian. Amen”.

    The very next Friday, Hermie and Mick went to lunch again. As normal, Mick ordered fish and Hermie ordered steak. “But Hermie! Catholics sacrifice on Friday. You can’t eat Beef today”, Mick exclaimed. “Trust me, i’ll be alright”, said Hermie.

    The meals came and Mick told Hermie again, “you can’t eat that”. Hermie just bowed his head and proclaimed “born a cow, raised a cow, now a fish”.

  87. Keith says:

    misha marinsky: Best joke: A man is stopped by a traffic cop. “Do you know your wife fell out a mile back?”

    The driver says, “Thank G-d. I thought I was going deaf.”

    Hermie and Mick used to tell each other a joke on the way to lunch on Friday’s. One week it was Hermie’s turn, the next it was Mick’s.

    One Friday, Mick started his joke:

    “So there was these two Rabbi’s see? They were on their way to a Bar Mitzvah and…”

    Hermie interupts at that point, “wait! you are always telling Rabbi jokes. Rabbi this, Rabbi that. every one of them could be told about Priests or Preachers or Imam’s. Don’t you have any imagination at all? Or are you just racist in general?”

    “Sorry”, Mick says. I guess you are right. I didn’t mean to offend you. I guess it could be about anybody couldn’t it. OK, let me try again.

    “So there’s these two Priests going to a Bar Mitzvah…”

  88. Thomas Brown says:

    misha marinsky: The other fellow replies, “So? AT&T at 18.”

    Sometimes the punchline is all that’s really necessary because your brain quickly reverse-engineers the joke.

    e.g. “I don’t remember his name, but his face rings a bell.”

  89. Plantmaster says:

    misha marinsky:

    Plantmaster: Misha, can a shabbas goy join the Conspiracy?

    Of course. You are now an Honorary Jew™.

    You can help me and Soros round up those RWNJ for the FEMA camps. We’ll start with Orly Taitz.

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

    I once confronted a RWNJ from Norway on his anti-Semitism. He labeled me a “simple Marano”. My wife told me I should’ve thanked him!

  90. donna says:

    from orly-stan:

    My conversation with Mr. Dennison from SCOTUS blog

    I talked to Mr. Dennison, writer of the SCOTUS blog. I called his cell number 301-512-4731.

    He was correct in stating that SCOTUS only denied the STAY as Obama was already sworn in, SCOTUS never commented on the merits of the case, never stated that Obama’s papers are valid.

    I asked, why did they sent 5 packets back. He said that they only need the decision of 4 justices to go to the next stage of oral argument. I responded that this looks even more corrupt and treasonous, it means that they sent the remaining packets to 4 liberal justices and 5 conservative justices never saw the papers. He stated that if I feel that the high treason was committed, I should file a complaint with the Justice department. I responded that the Justice department is complicit. I forwarded all the info to Holder and he never responded. I told him that in NAZI Germany they also had a Justice Department, Supreme Court, Parliament and judges, none of whom found one single action by Adolf Hitler to be unconstitutional and that is what we have now in the U.S. He said that he knows, that he is old enough to know what happened in Germany, but he can’t talk further.

  91. Rickey says:

    donna:
    from orly-stan:

    My conversation with Mr. Dennison from SCOTUS blog

    She had to call a guy at SCOTUS Blog to figure out that it was only her stay petition which was denied? She really thought that SCOTUS was going to rule on the “merits” of her claims?

    I knew that she is dense, but…

  92. J.D. Sue says:

    donna: from orly-stan:

    —-

    Apparently, Lyle Denniston was already answering questions for birthers yesterday. From the Scotusblog, he stated: “In response to a question, a denial of a stay, as in the Noonan case, means that the Court has refused to postpone a lower court decision that someone is challenging. The usual request for a ‘stay:’ (ie, a postponement) comes when the party making the challenge wants the lower court ruling kept on hold until they can appeal. A ‘stay’ is simply a postponement order.”

    Interesting that she insists that the 5 conservative justices never saw her petition, when in fact she first sent the petition (and 2 copies, if she followed the rules) to Kennedy (who denied it) and then sent it (and at least 10 copies, with 5 returned) to Roberts.

    But of course, to her, it’s all Nazi Germany, and it seems she explained all that to Mr. Denniston. She makes it sound like he is afraid to talk about it–“He said that he knows, that he is old enough to know what happened in Germany, but he can’t talk further.”

    BTW, he is “old enough”. I looked up Lyle Denniston on wikipedia, and found: “Lyle Denniston, 81, is an American legal journalist, professor, and author, who has reported on the Supreme Court of the United States for 54 years. . . .”

  93. [Thank you for this excellent compilation of some of the top debunked Obama rumors from the past 4 years. Doc.]

    Dr Stupid,

    I have never seen a bigger list of fucking morons making the same comments over and over. So yea Orly is nuts, yea Joe Arpaio must be too. Along with 20 other graphic experts. OH, almost forgot obum is illegitimate as of SR 511. I’ve included a link to that so you can read that too. Don’t miss the link to the 43 trillion obum and his entire admin have been indicted for, along with 1000 banksters. That must be a big conspiracy too.

    Richard Nixon was reelected and sworn in, but later was forced to resign as a result of Watergate. over 30 high ranking officials of Nixon administration including Attorney General of the United States and White House Counsel were indicted, convicted and went to prison. This is a hundred times bigger then Watergate. More corrupt high ranking officials, US Attorneys, AGs and judges were complicit, committed high treason by allowing a citizen of Indonesia and possibly still a citizen of Kenya Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barack (Barry) Soebarkah, aka Barack (Barry) Soetoro to usurp the U.S. Presidency by use of forged IDs and a stolen Social security number.

    BOTH OBAMAS SURRENDERED law licenses in ’93 & ’08!

    This can be easily veriified at iardc.org
    Stands for Illinois Attorney Registration And Disciplinary Committee. It’s the official arm of lawyer discipline in Illinois; and they are very strict and mean as hell.

    1. President Barack Obama, former editor of the Harvard Law Review, is no longer a “lawyer”. He surrendered his license back in 2008 in order to escape charges he lied on his bar application.

    A “Voluntary Surrender” is not something where you decide “Gee, a license is not really something I need anymore, is it?” and forget to renew your license. No, a “Voluntary Surrender” is something you do when you’ve been accused of something, and you ‘voluntarily surrender” your license five seconds before the state suspends you.

    2 Michelle Obama “voluntarily surrendered” her law license in 1993. after a Federal Judge gave her the choice between surrendering her license or STAND TRIAL FOR insurance FRAUD.
    3. So, we have the first black President and First “Lady” – who don’t actually have licenses to practice law. Facts.
    Source: jdlong.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/pres-barack-obama-editor-of-the-Harvard-law-review-has-no-law-license/

    thepatriotsnews.com/indx.php/content/163 This column focuses upon the period 2003-2008 and the political maneuvers that took place in order to make way for America’s first unconstitutional resident of the White House.

    Two parents who are CITIZENS at the time of birth and born on us soil or military base to be NATURAL BORN. Citizen is a different class.
    prowlland.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/senate-proves-obama-is-ineligible/

    In 2008, 96,992,000 registered voters (who actually voted) somehow cast 132,618,580 votes. In 2012, 90,682,968 registered voters (who actually voted) cast 136,985,809 votes. In 2008, Obama won 35 million nonexistent votes, defeating Sen. John McCain by 10 million votes that didn’t really exist. In 2012, Obama won 36 million nonexistent votes, and defeated Mitt Romney by less than 5 million votes—once again, with 36 million votes that didn’t exist..

    Massive fraud is why we have the biggest cheater, theif, and complete scum bag squatting as the first usurper imposter in the white house. Everything has has signed should be void and he should spend the rest of his pathetic life in jail.

    prnewswire.com/news-releases/major-banks-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-spire-law-group-llps-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-to-the-united-states-treasury-175828861.html

    jonchristianryter.com/2013/130113.html

    obum needs to be arrested for treason, id theft, electon fraud, records fraud, money laundering, racketeering, bribery, and abuse of power x 1000, don’t believe me??? read this >>>

    They know all about his fake records, aliases and gay bath house visits to man country.

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/10/trinity-church-members-reveal-obama-shocker/

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/feds-open-investigation-into-obama-money/?cat_orig=politics

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/the-big-list-of-vote-fraud-reports/

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/11/can-america-handle-truth-about-obama.html

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/11/new-lawsuit-seeks-obamas-records.html

    Joe Arpaio has proven after a 10 month investigation obums bc is fake with 9 layers, fake signatures, strange pencil numbers, scribbled out boxes, and the file number is fake as well 10637, 10638 given to the nordyke twins Aug 5 when obum has 10641 (the 1 looks photo shopped) on Aug 4, how is that possible? His ss id from ct is fake/stolen doesn’t even pass a simple EVERIFY CHECK and that is 100% proven by private investigators for 3 years now. His draft card is also fake when the stamp showed 1980 on ALL OTHERS in that year … obums only has an 80 which was taken from an 2008 stamp and inverted. Then there is of course obums own bio in 1991 where he wrote “born in kenya raised in indonesia and hawaii”. Here wnd.com/2012/05/shocker-obama-was-still-kenyan-born-in-2003/?cat_orig=us

    Barry Soetoro aka fraud, liar, id thief, scum … told us $400 handout was a tax cut, fake bc, fake ss id from ct, fake draft card made in 2008, born in kenyan until 2007 in a bio for a book he never wrote, then had bill ayers write his books one has 38 confirmed lies, $750 million from private money after saying 6 times he would only take public money, $200 million from fake people with no avs on his website, passed the insurance tax hike law with bribes and lies unseen in history, tells us he wants to tax the rich but is not a socialist, marxist who studied under a satanist named saul alinsky who dedicated his book “rules for radicals” to lucifer. I hope he rots in jail down the hall from his buddies resko, blagovich

    Barry Soetoro is one obama’s alias and he never legally changed his name in 1981 after occidental college living in the INTERNATIONAL DORM, where he got a 2.3, which is not high enough to go to columbia, so where are the records? You need a 3.5 to get in! Plus the college records would show where he listed he was born and if he got foreign scholarships.

    ===========================================

    1. original application for Connecticut Social Security number 042-68-4425, which Obama is using, while E-Verify and SSNVS show that it was not assigned to Obama

    2. original application to the Selective Service in light of the laughable forgery posted on line by Obama, which shows a 2 digit year postal stamp instead of a 4 digit year postal stamp

    3. original long form 1961 birth certificate and original microfilm of the birth certificate in light of the forgery provided.

    87 pages of sworn expert affidavits and other exhibits showing a prima facia evidence of forgery in IDs
    orlytaitzesq.com

    obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/sheriff-joes-lead-investigator-just.html
    Sheriff Joe’s Lead Investigator Just Back From Hawaii: No Proof Baby Obama Was In Hawaii; No Proof Obama Sr. And Stanley Ann Obama’s Biological Parents;

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=303165 Kenya honors obama’s birthplace with a cultural center.

    wnd.com/2010/04/139481/ KENYAN OFFICIAL OBAMA BORN THERE

    thepatriotsnews.com/indx.php/content/163
    This column focuses upon the period 2003-2008 and the political maneuvers that took place in order to make way for America’s first unconstitutional resident of the White House.

    TAX CUTS = INCREASES PAYROLL AND DISCRETIONARY SPENDING BY MILLIONS AKA FREE MARKET = MORE JOBS = MORE TAX REVENUE! THERE IS YOUR PIXIE DUST OBUM! TAKE A LOOK

    data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
    SEPTEMBER 1983 1.1 MILLION JOBS WERE CREATED.

    obamalies.net/list-of-lies you could spend months reading all the lies,

    wnd.com/2011/09/344461/ E VERIFY FLAGGED OBAMA’S SS ID AS NOT ISSUED

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=321561
    He believes forgers used the registration numbers of the birth certificates belonging to Gretchen and Susan Nordyke, 10637 and 10638, to create the Obama birth certificate number, 10641.

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=300201 how he got 10641

    wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=319221 mathmatical proof it’s a fake.

    spectator.org/archives/2008/10/02/obamas-fishy-200-million# election fraud from donations overseas with no avs (address verification) on his website for international transactions.

    scannedretina.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/fbi-complaint-letter/ 30 counts of fraud

    ====================================

    DC Quo Warranto statute 16-351-16-3503 allows removal from office of any federal officer “Writ of Quo Warranto to be issued in the name of the United States of America against a person, who within the District of Columbia usurps, intrudes into, or unlawfully holds or exercises, a franchise conferred by the United States or a public office of the United States, civil or military

    There is no limitation in Quo Warranto, as such it includes the office of the President of the United States and the Commander in Chief.

    There is no provision in the statute limiting the enforcement of the statute to one specific branch of law enforcement. As such it can be any law enforcement: it can be police, military police, sheriff, marshal, department of Homeland Security Enforcement, FBI.

    There is no limitation as to who can enforce the statute. It can be enforced by any court within DC: DC Superior court, US district court and military court marshal, since the franchise of the Commander in Chief of the US military relates to the military general court marshal.

    In order to occupy the position/franchise of the President of the US, one has to be a Natural Born Citizen, according to Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution

    Definition of the Natural Born can be found in the Law of Nations by Emer de Vattel, legal treatise and legal dictionary, quoted in the Constitution and widely used by the framers of the Constitution. According to the Law of Nations, Natural born Citizen needs to be born in the country to two parents, citizens of the country, not owing allegiance to any other sovereignties. Law of Nations, Emer de Vattel Vol 1, Chapter 19 212.

    Obama never qualified for presidency due to the fact that his father was never a US citizen. Barack Hussein Obama Sr. was a British Protected person from the colony of Kenya, residing in US on student visa. Later when Obama’s mother remarried Indonesian National Lolo Soetoro, Obama gained Indonesian citizenship. As such Obama since birth and until now had and has citizenship and allegiance to three foreign nations: Kenya, Great Britain and Indonesia and was never eligible for US presidency.

    State of HI statute 338-5 allows one to obtain such documents based on a statement of one relative only without any corroborative documents from any hospital. Additionally HI statute 338-17 allows foreign born children of HI residents to get HI birth certificates.

    In 1961 all birth certificates, including questionable ones, issued based on statutes 338-5 and 338-178 were forwarded by the HI Health Department to the HI news agency and published in two news papers: morning and evening papers, therefore news paper announcement quoted by Obama supporters are irrelevant for determination of birth.

    Probably the most telling evidence of fraud is the fact that the social security number most commonly used by Obama from 1981 until now 042-68-4425, is a number issued in the state of CT to an individual born in 1890. According to licensed investigators Susan Daniels and Neil Sankey Obama has used numerous different SS numbers that belonged to deceased individuals and numbers that were never issued. 39 such numbers were used according to National Databases, none of which were issued in HI.

    These facts are evidence of massive fraud, treason, social security and IRS fraud

  94. donna says:

    thanks sue

    yes, i did read that Denniston is “ancient” – interesting that taitz concluded that “they sent the remaining packets to 4 liberal justices and 5 conservative justices never saw the papers” when justice kennedy already denied her application and when she has knowledge as to who saw them – i wonder what Denniston would have said if he could have talked further

    thanks again

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