Strunk hit with staggering $177,000 legal sanction

I’m going to have this thing overturned and I’m not going to pay a dime.

The New York Daily News reports that the amount of legal sanctions to be imposed on persistent New York litigator Christopher-Earl : Strunk is $177,000, by far the largest birther penalty imposed to date. Strunk is also barred from suing a long list of individuals in the New York Court System.

Prior to this, the birther sanctions record was held by Orly Taitz at $20,000 and $4,000, and seconded by $10,565.23 against the Liberty Legal Foundation and a distant third by Linda Jordan at a reduced amount of $3,500.

Strunk, who lives on a modest retirement income from Social Security has, according to prior court filings, no assets of note.

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69 Responses to Strunk hit with staggering $177,000 legal sanction

  1. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Orly needs to seriously step up her efforts, if she is gonna stand a chance of one upping Strunk.

  2. Actually, I think Taitz is already poised to upstage Strunk in her Mississippi case.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Orly needs to seriously step up her efforts, if she is gonna stand a chance of one upping Strunk.

  3. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Actually, I think Taitz is already poised to upstage Strunk in her Mississippi case.

    Whacha think the damage will be? At least $250k? Or maybe she’ll piss them off so bad that she’ll be banned from the state under penalty of “Shot on sight”.

  4. Daniel says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Whacha think the damage will be? At least $250k? Or maybe she’ll piss them off so bad that she’ll be banned from the state under penalty of “Shot on sight”.

    I believe in Mississippi the “Shot on sight” sanction is valued at $10 and a ha’ plug o’ baccy

  5. Dave B. says:

    Everybody knows about Mississippi…

    Daniel: I believe in Mississippi the “Shot on sight” sanction is valued at $10 and a ha’ plug o’ baccy

  6. alg says:

    Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving fellow. Here’s to Orly eventually outperforming Strunk….

  7. JPotter says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Whacha think the damage will be? At least $250k? Or maybe she’ll piss them off so bad that she’ll be banned from the state under penalty of “Shot on sight”.

    Worse: she’ll be confined to Ole’ Mississip’. I hear the runnin’ Rebs just looooove Rooskies.

    Are any details regarding the calculation of the judgment available yet?

  8. Keith says:

    Dave B.:
    Everybody knows about Mississippi…

    Goddam!

  9. Arthur says:

    Mr. Strunk has posted a comment at ORYR. It is the folk tale “Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby” in which Brer Fox thinks he’s got Brer Rabbit in a fix. Brer Rabbit begs Brer Fox not to throw him in a briar patch. Of course, that’s exactly where the silly fox throws him, and Brer Rabbit gets away, having been born and bred in briars.

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/brooklyn-judge-hammers-obama-challenger.html#idc-container

    Strunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur.

    Yes, yes, yes — that Chris Strunk is one smart rabbit all right . . . and one very foolish and pitiably reduced old man.

  10. Deborah says:

    On-line degrees have got to go. In our county we had a scandal swept under the rug where the shurf’s deputies were given pay raises for obtaining a Bachelor’s Degree in criminal justice (4 years is the norm to obtain a BA in criminal justice) after completing just 22 classes on-line!

    http://www.mtdemocrat.com/news/grand-jury-report-sheriffs-department-incentive-pay-investigated/

    The locals are sick in the head, is my opinion. They are always pontificating about the Kon-sti-tu-shun and they are opposed to Federal government, never realizing that the Feds ARE the Constitution (Supreme law of the land) designed to protect the populace from ignoramus local yokels.

  11. justlw says:

    Arthur: Strunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur.

    http://birthstory.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Now-heres-my-plan-by-Shel-Silverstein.jpg

  12. Dave B. says:

    Orly’s going to be humming that one.

    Keith: Goddam!

  13. Arthur: Strunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur.

    Yes, yes, yes — that Chris Strunk is one smart rabbit all right . . . and one very foolish and pitiably reduced old man.

    His assets will be seized. The end.

  14. Arthur says:

    misha marinsky: His assets will be seized. The end.

    That’s what happens to asses.

  15. Deborah says:

    Since he was born in the briar patch he is a “natural born citizen” whereas the judge (and Obama) are not, because they were not born in the briar patch like he was?

  16. Arthur: Mr. Strunk has posted a comment at ORYR…

    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/brooklyn-judge-hammers-obama-challenger.html#idc-container

    From the comments: “But Judge S. is a far left supporter and Yiddish scholar for Obot and the trolls. What do you expect as the unjust verdict? Rigged and a disgarce to USA.”

    Fits the pattern…

  17. JPotter says:

    Arthur: Strunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur.

    Strunk: “Victory!”

    All defeats are victories.

    And why not. If enforced, after this sanction he may literally have nothing left to lose.

  18. Paul says:

    Oh, THIS is good!

    the man 11 minutes ago
    Want to help me get rid of that Yid judge?

    Hello, FBI…?

  19. JPotter: All defeats are victories.

    War is peace.
    Freedom is slavery.
    Ignorance is strength.

  20. slash2k says:

    Does the guy have any assets to seize in the first place? I’m guessing not much.

  21. Arthur says:

    misha marinsky: “But Judge S. is a far left supporter and Yiddish scholar

    I didn’t know you were a judge!

  22. Arthur says:

    slash2k:
    Does the guy have any assets to seize in the first place? I’m guessing not much.

    He’s an enormous ass, but you’re right, not much in the way of assets.

  23. slash2k: Does the guy have any assets to seize in the first place?

    A 1970 Ford.

  24. Rickey says:

    slash2k:
    Does the guy have any assets to seize in the first place? I’m guessing not much.

    Probably not, although nobody knows for sure where he lives. The address on his pleadings is a mail drop in Brooklyn, and he used that address to register to vote.

    When he posted here I challenged him about where he really lives, but he never responded.

  25. alg says:

    One thing to hope for is that this result will motivate other courts to levy comparable sanctions. It would be great to have a bidding war to see who could out do the last judgment.

  26. Joey says:

    The Huffibgton Post’s coverage of the Strunk sanction mentions this blog in passing!

  27. The Magic M says:

    JPotter: All defeats are victories.

    All cranks claim they want their case heard/decided by the highest court possible (SCOTUS, Supreme Court of the state etc.), therefore a loss is a victory because you can appeal a loss and therefore climb up the ladder whereas a victory in the lower court means your case is “buried” because you can’t appeal a win.
    That’s their logic.

  28. roadburner says:

    Arthur: Strunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur..

    maybe it is exactly that.

    remember how much over the cost of the sanction linda jordan recieved in donations from gullible birfoons?

    lets see how much the birfoons send him for his `defense fund’

    if it works out ok, he may be able to retire from birfering.

  29. If you want to make a birther shiver,
    Hey Lawdy, Lawdy lo,
    Just casually mention the Pearl River.
    Hey Lawdy, Lawdy lo.

    Daniel: I believe in Mississippi the “Shot on sight” sanction is valued at $10 and a ha’ plug o’ baccy

  30. Thomas Brown says:

    The Magic M: you can’t appeal a win

    Where in the entire world would that phrase ever need to come up, other than when discussing Birfers?

  31. ASK Esq says:

    Arthur: Mr. Strunk has posted a comment at ORYR. It is the folk tale “Brer Rabbit and the Tar Baby” in which Brer Fox thinks he’s got Brer Rabbit in a fix. Brer Rabbit begs Brer Fox not to throw him in a briar patch. Of course, that’s exactly where the silly fox throws him, and Brer Rabbit gets away, having been born and bred in briars. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/04/brooklyn-judge-hammers-obama-challenger.html#idc-containerStrunk’s moronic implication is that the nearly $200,000 fine he just received was exactly what he wanted to occur. Yes, yes, yes — that Chris Strunk is one smart rabbit all right . . . and one very foolish and pitiably reduced old man.

    Puts me in the mind of Mr. Mike’s Least-Loved Bedtime Tales.

  32. JD Reed says:

    I expect Strunk’s sanction to be sharply reduced. That said, I think it still could be hefty enough to really hurt Strunk. Like others have said, he doesn’t give the impression of rolling in dough.
    On another tangent, I have replied to “the man” who posted an apparent offer to help “get rid” of Strunk;s judge. I said there that n one these days should be blithely tossing around comments about “getting rid” of people in the criminal justice system, not when several in Texas and Colorado have been assassinated in recent months.
    Here’s hoping “the man” gets his own personal visit from law enforcement, and that they put the fear of God into him about the finer points of laws against communicating a threat.

  33. Sef says:

    JD Reed: I expect Strunk’s sanction to be sharply reduced.

    I seem to recall that when Orly’s appeal of her 20K sanction was being discussed the comment was made that she would have to post a bond equal to the value of the sanction in order to appeal, If Strunk appeals will he need to post a bond? If a bond is required and he cannot do it will he be prevented from appealing?

  34. Birther Weary says:

    Strunk doesn’t appear to have a dime to his name.

    IN RE Strunk – DC Cir – 13-5005 – Motion for IFP

  35. Kiwiwriter says:

    I expect that this sanction will get cut down, but it will still have an impact on his life. I hope the attorneys entitled to these sanctions go and get them…they have had to waste vast amounts of time and energy on his nonsense, and they deserve compensation.

    For Strunk to stand up and tell that tale to a Brooklyn judge took a lot of nerve…as we see, Brooklyn judges have little time or tolerance for utter nonsense. They deal with harsh realities every single hour.

  36. How said to learn that there is an 18 year old son has this fruit cake for a father through no fault of his own.

    Birther Weary: Strunk doesn’t appear to have a dime to his name.

  37. Arthur says:

    Birther Weary: Strunk doesn’t appear to have a dime to his name.

    No, he doesn’t. I get the impression that filing frivolous law suits is the only entertainment this lonely, embarrassed old man has. His “hobby” brings him attention and makes him feel important. And given the loopy conspiracies he’s formulated about Obama and the Catholic Church, he’s clearly in his dotage.

    Oh for the old days, when someone like Strunk could spend his golden years tending dairy cows on a poor farm.

  38. Sef: If Strunk appeals will he need to post a bond?

    IANAL – A bond is required, AFAIK.

    Sef: If a bond is required and he cannot do it will he be prevented from appealing?

    AFAIK, Strunk would have to prove he is a pauper, to appeal without a bond.

    I have a paralegal cert. from Old Dominion University in Norfolk. Corrections please.

  39. US Citizen says:

    I speculate that had a sanction of this magnitude been levied years earlier, much of what we see today in birther legal attempts wouldn’t even exist.

  40. Birther Weary says:

    misha marinsky: IANAL – A bond is required, AFAIK.

    AFAIK, Strunk would have to prove he is a pauper, to appeal without a bond.

    That’s what his IFP Motion is for.

  41. Scientist says:

    US Citizen:
    I speculate that had a sanction of this magnitude been levied years earlier, much of what we see today in birther legal attempts wouldn’t even exist.

    It needs to be said that this kind of idiotic lawsuit has real victims. As a New York taxpayer, I object that even a penny of my taxes has to go to defend this crap. More importantly, some real plaintiff with an actual case in which they suffered concrete harm has had to wait just a bit longer for justice because the judge had to hear Strunk’s baloney.

    These and all frivolous lawsuits need to be cracked down on. I realize the chances of ever collecting from Strunk are very low, but this sends a message that needs sending.

  42. Majority Will says:

    Scientist: It needs to be said that this kind of idiotic lawsuit has real victims.As a New York taxpayer, I object that even a penny of my taxes has to go to defend this crap.More importantly, some real plaintiff with an actual case in which they suffered concrete harm has had to wait just a bit longer for justice because the judge had to hear Strunk’s baloney.

    These and all frivolous lawsuits need to be cracked down on.I realize the chances of ever collecting from Strunk are very low, but this sends a message that needs sending.

    Hear, hear.

  43. Rickey says:

    Birther Weary:
    Strunk doesn’t appear to have a dime to his name.

    IN RE Strunk – DC Cir – 13-5005 – Motion for IFP

    It’s a bit hard to believe that anyone could live in Brooklyn on $1100 a month. And he owes the IRS $3500 in back taxes! If he is paying $100/month in rent he must be living with a friend or relative.

  44. predicto says:

    Rickey: It’s a bit hard to believe that anyone could live in Brooklyn on $1100 a month. And he owes the IRS $3500 in back taxes! If he is paying $100/month in rent he must be living with a friend or relative.

    There are still some rent-controlled apartments in New York. As long as you don’t move, your rent doesn’t change much. He’s probably been in his place for 25 years.

  45. Sef says:

    Rickey: It’s a bit hard to believe that anyone could live in Brooklyn on $1100 a month. And he owes the IRS $3500 in back taxes! If he is paying $100/month in rent he must be living with a friend or relative.

    USSEARCH.com reports addresses in New York, NY, Brooklyn & Miami. Usually New York, NY means Manhattan. Could it be that he is scamming the Brooklyn courts with a drop box address while living high on the hog in Manhattan?

  46. Majority Will says:

    Sef: USSEARCH.com reports addresses in New York, NY, Brooklyn & Miami. Usually New York, NY means Manhattan. Could it be that he is scamming the Brooklyn courts with a drop box address while living high on the hog in Manhattan?

    How many millions has Strunk paid lawyers to hide his records?

    What is Strunk hiding?

  47. Rickey says:

    misha marinsky: IANAL – A bond is required, AFAIK.

    AFAIK, Strunk would have to prove he is a pauper, to appeal without a bond.

    I have a paralegal cert. from Old Dominion University in Norfolk. Corrections please.

    The New York Court of Appeals refused to grant him pauper status in his appeal of the dismissal because they deemed the appeal to be frivolous. The same thing is likely to happen here.

  48. I hate to be picky but the title of this post includes the same rounding error that the author of the NY Daily News article made. It should be $178,000.

  49. Sef says:

    Rickey: The New York Court of Appeals refused to grant him pauper status in his appeal of the dismissal because they deemed the appeal to be frivolous. The same thing is likely to happen here.

    Also, even if he physically lives in Brooklyn, I doubt his domicile and the dropbox location are in the same election district. Thus he is GUILTY of voter fraud.

  50. ASK Esq says:

    US Citizen: I speculate that had a sanction of this magnitude been levied years earlier, much of what we see today in birther legal attempts wouldn’t even exist.

    No doubt true. However, I feel the reason we’re seeing sanctions now is, at least in part, due to the history of birther suits over these past few unsactioned years. Birther litigants no longer have any excuse for not knowing their cases are frivolous, thanks to the now-large volume of birther legal failings. This gives judges more ammunition to say “You knew this was garbage, now you have to pay.”

  51. Rickey says:

    predicto: There are still some rent-controlled apartments in New York.As long as you don’t move, your rent doesn’t change much.He’s probably been in his place for 25 years.

    That’s a good point which I hadn’t considered. Here is an interesting story from last year:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/the_nyc_apartment_pSlenUDSFQNQORpPKt7TJL

  52. Rickey says:

    Sef: USSEARCH.com reports addresses in New York, NY, Brooklyn & Miami. Usually New York, NY means Manhattan. Could it be that he is scamming the Brooklyn courts with a drop box address while living high on the hog in Manhattan?

    If so, he is violating election laws by being registered to vote in Brooklyn. He has to register in the precinct where he actually resides, not simply where his mailbox is located. When he was here I asked him several times why he is registered to vote at a mail drop address, but he ignored my questions.

  53. ObiWanCannoli says:

    When I read the comments about locating Strunk’s home (address) through USSEARCH.COM, SPOKEO and other error-prone public databases, I thought for a moment I was on Orly’s newly redesigned website.

  54. Rickey says:

    ObiWanCannoli:
    When I read the comments about locating Strunk’s home (address) through USSEARCH.COM, SPOKEO and other error-prone public databases, I thought for a moment I was on Orly’s newly redesigned website.

    Thanks, I got a chuckle out of your comment.

    Lest we be too hard on the databases, they also contain much information which is accurate. Real investigators know that the databases provide leads, not answers. The information has to be independently correlated and verified, something which Orly has never been interested in doing.

  55. A couple of comments with a putative address for Mr. Stunk have been deleted.

  56. It does look like she dropped one of the two sidebars, and that’s definitely an improvement. Now if she would just dump the top section, and have come decent content…

    ObiWanCannoli: I thought for a moment I was on Orly’s newly redesigned website.

  57. Daniel says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    It does look like she dropped one of the two sidebars, and that’s definitely an improvement. Now if she would just dump the top section, and have come decent content…

    She can format all she wants, decent content ain’t gonna happen so long as she’s a birther.

  58. JPotter says:

    The Magic M: All cranks claim they want their case heard/decided by the highest court possible (SCOTUS, Supreme Court of the state etc.), therefore a loss is a victory because you can appeal a loss and therefore climb up the ladder whereas a victory in the lower court means your case is “buried” because you can’t appeal a win.
    That’s their logic.

    Of course, M, but i was making a more general statement, about the nature of believers. Never admitting error, never recognizing defeat … and thereby never learning a thing. Just keep doubling down, and drilling down.

    Betting double or nothing on a preposterous bet, while the losses pile exponentially, because this time it will be different.

  59. Kiwiwriter says:

    Mr. Strunk is 65, and my guess is that he lives in a rent-controlled apartment or with rellies, so he can skate on the rent.

    I suspect the marshal won’t find much to seize besides Strunk’s next appeal paperwork.

    Nail him, anyway…and if he does sue people he’s barred from suing, I think — I’ll let the legal eagles here address that — he can be prosecuted.

  60. Daniel says:

    Kiwiwriter:
    Mr. Strunk is 65, and my guess is that he lives in a rent-controlled apartment or with rellies, so he can skate on the rent.

    I suspect the marshal won’t find much to seize besides Strunk’s next appeal paperwork.

    Nail him, anyway…and if he does sue people he’s barred from suing, I think — I’ll let the legal eagles here address that — he can be prosecuted.

    I think the next punishment if he continues to sue people he’s barred from suing, is that the court might simply find him a vexatious litigant. Which essentially means he can’t file anything with the court. If you can’t file, you can’t sue.

  61. The Magic M says:

    Daniel: Which essentially means he can’t file anything with the court.

    Doesn’t it rather mean you need the court’s permission before you can file an actual suit?

    Anything else would make the person outlawed because I could just defraud poor Strunkie in NY and he couldn’t sue me.

    So he could still file applications for permission, but I guess the court can then sanction him for filing frivolous applications.

    The practical difference is that such an application does not need feedback from the party the vexatious litigant is trying to sue, thus taking away the burden from the former to reply, pay his lawyer etc.

  62. JoZeppy says:

    The Magic M: Doesn’t it rather mean you need the court’s permission before you can file an actual suit?

    That’s pretty much how it works. Any time he would want to sue someone, he has to a motion for leave of the court to file his complaint. The motion would have attached to it a copy of what he intended to file. If it was more of his crazy, the court would just deny his motion, that would be the end it. His putative defendant would never need to file anything or spend a dime defending himself against the crazy.

  63. Keith says:

    Bob:
    Wonkette reports on the case:

    http://wonkette.com/510684/hero-judge-teabags-birther-to-tune-of-177-large#more-510684

    Some of the comments on Wonkette’s blub are quite amusing:

    The new Strunk and Schack style manual for legal opinions is out.
    English translations available for those who live outside of Brooklyn.

  64. Strunk was interviewed on “Live and Let Live with Gary Johnson” on the Logos Radio Network yesterday. He is on during the second hour of this podcast. http://mp3.logosradionetwork.com/LLL/16k/LLL_2013-04-14_16k.mp3

    Strunk is a nut of course. He said that it was a victory that only 3 of 9 law firms submitted fees or the award would have been higher.

  65. Keith says:

    Reality Check:
    Strunk is a nut of course. He said that it was a victory that only 3 of 9 law firms submitted fees or the award would have been higher.

    So that’s the game now? See who can rack up the most sanctions for pouring sewage into the justice system?

    Civic minded patriots indeed.

  66. The Magic M says:

    Reality Check: He said that it was a victory that only 3 of 9 law firms submitted fees or the award would have been higher.

    So “we only lost 0-54, they missed ten field goals, so we actually won” is the new “we won” in birtherstan? Caltech Beavers FTL!

  67. Lupin says:

    Reality Check: He said that it was a victory that only 3 of 9 law firms submitted fees or the award would have been higher.

    Tht is a novel definition of the word “victory” indeed.

    Strunk comes across as mentally unbalanced, sort of like the folks handing out greasy leaflets about lizard people in subway stations.

    It’s always astonishing (to me) that these folks are listened to (admittedly by a fringe) and not widely ridiculed.

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