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WND has a new birther article by the birther propagandist in chief Bob Unruh:
http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/eligibility-resurrected-congress-paying-attention/
Here’s a sample quote:
Note how stupid people are supposed to think this means that the Governor couldn’t “find” a birth certificate. Actually he couldn’t find anything he could legally release (i.e. “produce”). It’s like:
“President Obama was unable to produce the secret missile launch keys, and it should have been easy to find.”
or
“Mr. Cabot was unable to produce his gall bladder, and it should have been easy to find.”
Unfortunately, serial liars do what they do.
Another sterling example of WND journalistic prowess.
Everything comes from Zullo- and they quote the World Tribune- whose information came from Zullo.
They make it seem that the Tribune had interviewed Reed- but of course all the quotes from Reed come from- wait for it- Zullo.
Frankly reading the article- it is not surprising a big lie fest.
Birthers…..still gullible after all these years.
WND- still willing to gull Birthers after all these years.
I feel rather unclean even reading the vile comments on WND.
You are better than I Doc, to post in that rabid pack of Birthers.
“There have been warnings that we would go under shortly after our 200th.
I’m a good believer in Christ and God, yet I keep praying that God ‘Smite’ the Devil in our Whitehouse!!
Maybe that makes me a poor Christian, maybe it doesn’t.”
Are Bob Unruh and Jerome Corsi more than “friends”?
I’m not accusing them of anything. I’m just asking.
Commenter “Sandy” claims to have read the complete Zatkovich report on WND. My question asking him – politely – for the url is still in moderation.
About three hours later and question is out of moderation but, so far, no response from “Sandy”.
Ahhh ‘Bath house Bob’, Porntache Farah and Pimp-Daddy Corsi,they do make an (un)holy trinity do they not…?
18 hours later and….surprise…..no reply from “Sandy” with a url for the complete Zatkovich report.
We often wonder why judges put up with Orly, but some of the things they hear from in the courtroom makes you realize that not everyone is playing with a full deck. 😀
These are from a book called Disorder in the Courts and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while the exchanges were taking place.
ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
WITNESS: He said, ‘Where am I, Cathy?’
ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
WITNESS: My name is Susan!
_______________________________
ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth?
WITNESS: July 18th.
ATTORNEY: What year?
WITNESS: Every year.
_____________________________________
ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you?
WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can’t remember which.
ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you?
WITNESS: Forty-five years.
_________________________________
ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
WITNESS: I forget..
ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
___________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn’t it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn’t know about it until the next morning?
WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?
____________________________________
ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the 20-year-old, how old is he?
WITNESS: He’s 20, much like your IQ.
___________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
WITNESS: Are you shitting me?
_________________________________________
ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
WITNESS: Getting laid
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
WITNESS: Yes.
ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
WITNESS: None.
ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
WITNESS: By death..
ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
WITNESS: Take a guess.
___________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I’m going with male.
_____________________________________
ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
______________________________________
ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
WITNESS: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
_________________________________________
ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
WITNESS: Oral…
_________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.
____________________________________________
ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?
______________________________________
And last:
ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
WITNESS: No..
ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
WITNESS: No.
ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.
Sorry I didn’t have a link, wax if too big.
I once appeared as a character witness in a divorce hearing.
Attorney: Did you ever commit adultery?
Witness: Yes.
Attorney: With whom?
Witness: Do you want all their names and how many times?
Co-worker, whispered to me: “Thank you for being here.”
Those are funny!
Forty years ago in Arizona there was a personal injury case involving a guest at a dude ranch who was bitten by a horse. All was going well for the defense attorney, until this exchange while he was questioning the manager of the dude ranch:
ATTORNEY: How old was the horse who was involved in this incident?
MANAGER: Seven.
ATTORNEY: Has anyone ever been bitten by this horse?
MANAGER: Not to my knowledge.
ATTORNEY: Thank you very much. Oh, by the way, what is the horse’s name?
MANAGER: Nipper.
bada-bing
“You said your dog doesn’t bite.”
“That’s not my dog.”
Liz Cheney defends Birthers:
She defended birthers by explaining that “people are fundamentally uncomfortable and fundamentally I think increasingly uncomfortable with an American president who seems to be afraid to defend America, stand up for what we believe in.”
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/10-important-facts-about-liz-cheney
Is The Fogbow offline?
Carl Gallups is resurrecting an absurd claim he made four years ago about a biblical passage supposedly referring to Barack Obama.
http://www.ppsimmons.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2013-07-17T04:40:00-07:00&max-results=7
Here’s a debunking of Gallups biblical “analysis” and his sophomoric understanding of Hebrew.
http://debunkingchristianity.blogspot.com/2009/08/barack-obama-antichrist.html
Never mind. If it was down, it’s back up now. Or maybe it was just me.
How many times do I have to say this?! Obama is NOT, and CANNOT be, the anti-Christ – he’s not Jewish.
Falwell said it – The anti-Christ is walking among us in the shape of a Jewish male.
Hagee – The anti-Christ will be Jewish, as was Karl Marx, as was Adolf H!tler.
“his sophomoric understanding of Hebrew” – Those stupid people can’t read Hebrew – what do you expect?
Here’s the correct translation from Genesis: An African man shall be leader of the greatest nation on Earth.
Beginners…
Waaay OT, but apropos: Everyone luvs a good conspiracy. Here’s the latest:
Malala Yousufzai was shot in the face by a conspiracy of Jews and Freemasons:
On the one hand, the letter is an audacious attempt to justify the shooting of a little girl. In places, it seems rambling, talking of a conspiracy – led by (you guessed it) “Jews” and “freemasons.” Yet the words also provide an insight into the motivations, ideology and even deep-rooted fears of the Taliban in Pakistan.
http://www.channel4.com/news/malala-taliban-letter-commander-exclusive
Oh, what tangled webs we weave! A birther gets caught forging documents. Again.
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/07/update-rep-kenny-marchant-says-obama.html#idc-container
See also:
http://watchdog.org/95928/texas-rep-says-congressional-impeachment-letter-was-doctored/#comment-965936592
It funny how often birthers show themselves to be exactly what they falsely accuse others to be.
Hey, at least they get a headline correct every now and then…
LATEST – on Birth Certificate Fraud! ZULLO: Weapon of Mass Deception!
Although I wouldn’t say Mass about Zullo…more like Capgun of a Few birthers.
The amazing thing is they updated it…usually they’re ignored like it never happened.
Hey has anyone waded through Arpaio’s or Zullo’s latest compost pile from today?
Having to listen to Carl Gallups for longer than a few seconds makes me twitchy. So, no, I haven’t bothered to click on their latest recycled nonsense.
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This site’s IP address is again blacklisted for something happening on another domain hosted on the same shared server. Sign.
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No, I’m waiting til my shingles and my kidney stone both go away before I take on that kind of pain. So far I’m down to just the kidney stone. Hopefully the shingles will come back and I’ll have a good excuse.
The silence from Birthers on this big announcement is rather deafening.
Meanwhile I want to share a post I posted on PF- noting what the OP in a Birther thread sayed in a Trayvon Martin thread
Me:
So often Birthers get outraged when they are accused of racism…..but then almost inevitably a Birther ends up saying something like this:
Quote from Birther:
“Good. It is the reality of the situation. Your people are being called out on it as they rape, kill and pillage all across America. Abe Lincoln said it best about the negro”
Yep- nothing racist about their opposition to Barack Obama at all…….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?V=RWpU8sX10_4
ZObaMaBIES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWpU8sx10_4
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Sporadically or spasmodically? 😆
What do you want us to do, Bob, look at some random cat videos or something?
You can tell he is a professor by the lovely words he uses.
Of course I could be wrong. >_>
(To the tune of “Happy Birthday to You)
Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday to you
Happy birthday dear witness
Happy birthday to you!
Another great moment of Birther success.
that’s how I feel here (not really), it’s fine j, wander outside your comfort zone from time to time. it’s a character builder.
you birtherist. lol, just kidding amigo.
President Obama to name Sheriff Joe Arpaio to run the Department of Homeland Security?
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2013/07/joe_arpaio_wants_to_run_the_de.php
“*GASP* Maybe, just maybe, consider that the entire investigation into President Obama’s birth certificate was a steaming load of BS.”
Looks like they’re done with “GalllupGate”.
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/07/16/daily-callers-obama-intimidated-gallup-conspira/194912
You’d think the Republicans would THANK the President for discovering the problem with the way they inflated Romney’s numbers…Ok, I TRIED to type that with a straight face, and failed badly! 😀
Good thought, Scott. I used to be a regular visitor to FOTM (have since quit cold turkey), but here’s how it goes down there and at other RWNJ sites: they refer to President Obama as POS, but if you refer to them as conspiracists, you get banned for name calling. Posts that decisively refute their insane theories with actual facts (see Sandy Hook, Benghazi, Eugenics, Obama’s birth certificate, etc. etc.) are censored. Not much character to be built there; the only thing it built for me were bruises on the palm of my hand and my forehead.
Those sites are absolutely NO FUN!!! They used to be, but now they’ve just turned into “Preach to the Choir”…which in turn means that they’ll have trouble attracting new people who have valid questions about their theories.
Auf Wiedersehen!
http://arizonaspolitics.blogspot.com/2013/07/pro-arpaio-attorney-larry-klayman-out.html?m=1
Scotty I noticed the article you posted from Alinsky doesn’t actually say he met Capone or socialized with him. In fact from the way the article is written it talks about Capone’s income tax rap meaning it was after he was put away
Don’t tell me he is still using that piece of crap “Alynsky was a friend of Capone” line and lying about it? I tore that to shreds on the political forum, so much that he immediately started lying about something else and refused to even acknowledge he had even brought it up.
And, yes, I sadly still have the link to prove scotte is a dishonest little crap artist that keeps pumping out stuff that he knows is a lie because he’s been told that before. Poor scott.
http://www.politicalforum.com/270883-benghazi-eligible-worthy-realtime-conspiracy-theorieness-post1062613365.html#post1062613365
It’s pretty clear from the Playboy interview that Alinsky never met Capone. Alinsky mentions meeting Frank Nitti, so he certainly would have said so if he had ever met Capone.
Birthers are very good at proving their point by citing sources which don’t prove their point.
I won’t go to Klan meetings, I don’t visit Stormfront. I don’t join NAMBLA.
yeah I will admit- there are somethings that I do not feel like i need to wander outside my comfort zone on.
Yup he tried to claim we were lying in the closed off thread by posting a link to the article which doesnt actually prove his point
I’ve posted this before, but it’s always a bit surprising to me that birthers routinely assume that (a) everyone here is American and (b) a fervent Obama supporter.
Therefore they feel free to dismiss our objections to their lunatic theories as motivated purely by pro-Obama feelings.
But as has been obvious for a quite a while, several posters here are not from the US — and therefore don’t have the same pollitical and emotional investment in supporting Obama.
Speaking for myself only, I do not even like or agree with Obama’s foreign policies, which seem to me in too many respects identical to that of Dick Cheney.
If there was a proper alternative in your electoral system, Obama would be seen as a reasonable right-leaning centrist candidate, to be succeeded by a left-leaning centrist candidate and so forth. Unfortunately the choice you’re offered is Obama or General Zod, so obviously we come to prefer Obama by default.
Our opposition to, and ridicule of, the birthers’ views have nothing to do with our alleged pro-Obama feelings, which in my case are inexistent.
There are plenty of very good reason to oppose Mr. Obama’s policies (from the left, not even from the right) without having to resort to crazy, illogical, racist, made up theories.
OMG!
WND scammed again, or did they do it on purpose?
‘Barry Soetoro’ registered to vote in D.C.
I read some of the comments. One person called Obama a “black snake.”
Dear Conservatives: Nice crowd you have.
Of course Obama registered to vote in Washington D.C. He knew that his vote was critical to carrying the District of Columbia.
Dr. C:
Over the last few hours, when I searched OCT on google, like normal, it would not bring me here. Then, when I was tweeting, I hit the link and got in. And could move around here. Sooo, I tried to coming in again like I usually do and it didn’t work.
Thought you might like to know. You can erase this if you want.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
Sounds like your cache is having a problem. Try clearing your cache, and try it again.
dunstvangeet:
Thank you!!! It was me. I flushed the dns thingy twice and that didn’t fix it, so I used Piriform cccleaner. That was strange, because here was the only site it was doing it on.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl reporter
What probably happened is that you visited this while it was down, so it stored that local copy of the homepage on your computer. It does this to make load times faster. So, whenever you’d go to the homepage, you’d pull up the page stored in your cache. So, erasing that page, forced it to download it from the server.
Only reason I knew what to do is that it happened to me a while ago too…
Same here. I would’ve wished for more moments like his speech on racism – he has become too much of a mainstream politician and less of somebody who tells uncomfortable truths. Yet I definitely prefer him over the crazy-leaning Republicans I’ve come to know (I sympathized a bit with Rick Perry when he announced he was running, until I learned more background information).
And even if – all it would do is serve another round of “Six Degrees of Separation meets Guilt by Association”.
I’ve read entire sites devoted to “Obama knew X who worked for Y who formerly worked for Z who lived in the same house as Stalin who knew Hitler – coincidence?” types of crap.
I’ve had to clear the cache at least 5 times today to get the fornicating thing to show me the page.
I, for one, will be happy when the innertube thingy settles down to a bit of stability.
If you have an iPad and use the Chrome browser it is a little tricky to clear the browser cache. It is under settings>privacy. It took me a while to find that last time. On Firefox on my PC I had to do the flush DNS and clear the browser cache too.
Ramboike is over at Squeeky’s if anyone is interested.
To me, it sounds like Zullo is getting ready to publish another book. That’s why he needed the secrecy agreement with Hayes, and why he copyrighted the report. That way, he can say anything about the report and the unedited/unredacted report will never see the light of day.
Now my question, how many of you will buy the book just to debunk it? Not me.
Me neither. If there ever were a question about the PDF being fabricated the Xerox discovery has driven the final nail in that coffin. If you watch Gillar’s videos and and read Zebest’s and Papit’s reports for the CCP now they almost read like comedy pieces.
I wait for a used copy to become available.
I decided not to write an article titled: “Death Panels, alive and well” but here’s what inspired it:
http://lindajoyadams.blogspot.com/2013/07/daily-recap-72213-gift-of-life.html
Another tragic case of missing Birther paragraphs. It is a conspiracy.
Hey Doc– you ever come across this tiny little jewel?
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/example/%5Bfield_short_title-raw%5D_27
We had an agreement. Thanks. NOT
Obviously. In many significant ways the US has become a one-party system just like Russia.
You know sometimes I wonder what it would be like to observe Linda Joy Adams and Nancy Owens in a padded cell together.
Sheriff Kessler in the news
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/24/19660346-police-chief-in-profane-gun-video-uproar-im-not-a-delusional-lunatic?lite
“He’s been the chief, an appointed position, since 2001 and makes $24,000 a year. He used to have two officers working for him but is now the borough’s sole cop because of budget cuts.”
If that’s a full-time job, he is being paid about $12.50/hour. To me that sounds like he is overpaid.
I found another little gem that shows that the document was indeed created on a Xerox workstation.
Remember JPEG? They contain quantization matrices which are often very specific to the application and can be used as a virtual fingerprint
In this posting I show how the quantization matrices for the WH PDF and the Xerox PDF created by a friend both show the same matrices.
I found that it did not match the 7655 matrices but they do match the 7655 matrices in the WH taxes document. I now remember that I may have set the compression to high in my workflow experiment. Need to redo.
So the same matrices are found in the WH PDF birth certificate the WH Potus taxes PDF and in the sample PDF created on a Xerox 7355…
I also believe I have figured out how the JPEG was subsampled to 150 DPI and why the two sides of the text bitmaps align with 8 MOD 0 boundaries. Instead of a spatial subsampling you can do a ‘frequency based’ subsampling with much of the same results but more efficient.
Preliminary experiments with resolution also show interesting and promising explanations for the white halos.
I love it when everything comes together… And I get to educate myself and my friend Hermitian…
For the history buffs:
This could have been written in todays NY Times.
http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/history/2013/07/alexander-hamiltons-adultery-and-apology/
If you’ll be free in early September and want to visit our nation’s captial, a lunatic patriot group has got plans for you. Big Plans. They’re big I tells ye!
“The date has been set for September 9th, be prepared to stay for the week. The way I have this figured it shouldn’t take more than the work week to get this done if that long. Our truck driving Patriot family blocks off the streets surrounding D.C. even around government buildings putting traffic to a complete stop, the rest of us front liners (UNARMED) walk in demanding answers and justice for our country. No one gets in or out of D.C. until we have these answers If there are millions of us they can’t arrest us all nor can they really stop us. Those with evidence against our government would have the backing to submit the paperwork to start the impeachment process and the arrest of any and all parties in the crimes committed by our government officials. We would need banners made for all the trucks with different messages on them very bold that can be easily read from a distance or from helicopters once the media started reporting. Our second line will be all armed patriots (just outside of DC) ready to move in and take action if our peaceful method doesn’t work. The second line will be waiting in an area where it is legal to carried your firearms so no laws are broken and this gives no chance for someone to be planted among the group who could fire the first shot and it be blamed on us.”
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Patriots-Guild/488621364525179?ref=tn_tnmn#
Yes, they’ll “walk in demanding answers!” Like, “Did anyone remember to rent a portapotty?”
That’s some first-class thinking there.
The size of their cells in federal prison won’t be much larger than that.
Let’s see, a week, 5 or 6 true patriots…yep, one will do.
I think this guy saw “The Dark Knight Rises” too many times, and is fantasizing about putting a city under siege, just like the character Bane did. Of course, if you tell everyone that you’re going to march on the capital on Sept. 9, what’s to keep Congress and the president from leaving town on Sept. 8? Not to mention, the Supreme Court is not in session until October.
I predict seven people and a Border Collie–at least one of them will have some sense.
The plan:
“11th Day 3, Wednesday:
a. The House must complete a 3/4th vote to pass OUR Anti-Bribery Amendment.
b. The House must complete a 3/4th vote to pass OUR American Equality Amendment.
c. The Senate must start Impeachment proceedings.”
And, a little further along, the demands:
“For both houses of Congress:
1) Cease and desist from all attempt to alter or abridge the Constitution.”
and
“For the President,
7) Give an accounting of yourself in public as to why you believe you have the right to usurp the rule of law and The Constitution of The United States.”
And they’re super serial:
“Any or all members of government can use the time between now and September 9th to resign, turn over information against Obama and his Administration. Agree to willingly testify on behalf of the American people against the crimes committed against us and our country. Your cooperation and involvement in the crimes will determine your capability of being able to return to your job or have a place in government office in the future. If we the people are forced to remove you from office you will not be given an opportunity for future political position.”
“See you there!!! It’s going to be AWESOME!”
bada-bing
Definitely, they can send the collie to fetch beers. Then when they get drunk and all try to fall asleep in the outhouse, lock them in and go play with Bo.
I was astounded recently to learn that a rumor from the 2000 presidential election has been reheated and served again after each of the presidential elections since then. To wit, that the homicide rate is 6.5 times as high in counties that voted for the Democrat (Gore, then Kerry, Obama and Obama) than for those that voted for the Republican (Bush, Bush, McCain and Romney.) I didn’t know it had thaty long a shelf life.
I found at least 25 websites circulating this false report, including the Western Center for Journalism in the form of a reply from a reader responding to an article titled
“zhokhar Tsarnaev Not Most Dangerous Criminal in US – Obama Is”
Here’s a short passage:
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in
St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning
the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 Romney: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 Romney: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million Romney: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 Romney: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory
Romney won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens
of the country.
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low
income tenements and living off various forms of government
welfare…”
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
“complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of
democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population
already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million
criminal invaders called illegals – and they vote – then we can say
goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.
I’m guessing that there’s a large overlap among people circulating this llie and birthers.
Here’s the link:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-not-most-dangerous-criminal-in-us-obama-is/
If the link doesn’t work, I found it with this keyword search:
Western journalism Obama Romney 13.2 2.1 homicide
States won by Pres. Obama, 19, states won by Romney, 29? That adds to, let’s see, 48. Since there are either 50 states, or 51 voting areas (because adding DC to this mix surely improves the argument the author is making), or 57 states (if you believe Pres. Obama), then we’re missing some. Other figures in this article are similarly inaccurate. The population adds up to 270 million, when I though we had more than 300 million, or 345 million if you add all of the illegal aliens Dr. Taitz says are here. Or do illegal aliens and African-Americans only count for 3/5?
Mr. Reilly: In fact, there are 57 primaries: DC, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, Virgin Islands, Texas Caucus and Democrats abroad.
Obama was exhausted from non-stop campaigning.
ah to have big dreams…..
Speaking of big dreams, here’s a comment left on the Facebook page devoted to this insanity:
“Jay Stimson III: I only have one suggestion … and this is not to put a fly in the ointment … but things may not go as planned. I would highly recommend giving consideration to demanding that our military take control of the government until things can be sorted out. Being a veteran, I trust our military and they have the muscle to help us. It is my conclusion that they must be factored into our plan if we are to succeed. I fully expect they are waiting on us to give them the go ahead. Just some food for thought.”
Misha: I know why Pres. Obama said 57. I was being a bit facetious.
What I don’t understand is how someone who sits down and makes county by county land and population calculations gets to 48, except if you leave out Hawaii (that solves the natural born citizen problem( and a state to be named later.
And the reasoning of the piece is warped. We do not vote by how much land each of us owns.
And my guess is that the numbers presented are all false,
Except this is BS since Obama won 26 states plus DC and Romney won 24 states. They tried to claim the same nonsense with McCain and Obama claiming McCain won more states than Obama when he did not. But hey lets see the real math of this crud.
So lets see the author straight out lied. I added up the square miles for Obama comes out to about 1.3 million square miles. Alaska is a whole lot of nothing with one of the smallest populations and the most land that’s not saying much.
I haven’t had the chance to add up the counties but I’ve read multiple articles saying Obama won 10 big counties in 2012 that McCain won in 2008. The numbers are false listed in the article.
The article is completely false here is a web archive of Professor Olson’s bio on the website: http://web.archive.org/web/20090129232444/http://law.hamline.edu/node/784
DISCLAIMER: There is a series of e-mails floating around the internet dealing with the 2008 Obama/McCain election and the 2000 Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scottish philosopher named Alexander Tyler, suicide rates, or ANYTHING ELSE. Part of it is attributed to me. It is entirely BOGUS as to my authorship. I’ve been trying to kill it since December 2000. For details see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp.
About.com also has a page up about it: http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/election_stats.htm
[Yes, “open” is a relative term. You’re still banned. Doc.]
Open thread is a relative term, apparently…only open to those who agree to appeasement to political forces, yes?
I have stated my thoughts previously and found wanting. Why? Well, the obvious is that no one had had the guts to answer to previous concerns or had reasonable comment to counter.
Sure, whatever. I’ve had my bad days, too.
Pieter Nosworthy July 16, 2013 at 7:09 pm (Quote) #
Daniel Shays, John Brown, and Malcom X have what in common?
Three centuries of coherent rebellion against obvious majority oppression perhaps?
Why doesn’t the TEA Party and some, but not all, Birthers get similar consideration?
Face it, most on this site are now the “Man” hiding behind politically expedient BS status quo inertia. Wow, amazing how times change.
One of the best philosopher-comedians of our time framed most of you aptly;
“The Baby Boomers: whiny, narcissistic, self-indulgent people with a simple philosophy: “Gimme that! It’s mine!” These people were given everything, everything was handed to them, and they took it all, sold it all; sex, drugs, and rock ‘n’ roll, and they stayed loaded for twenty years and had a free ride. But now they’re staring down the barrel of middle-age burnout, and they don’t like it. They don’t like it, so they’ve become self-righteous, and they wanna make things hard for young people. They tell em abstain from sex, say no to drugs. As for rock ‘n’ roll, they sold that for television commercials a long time ago so they can buy pasta machines and StairMasters and soybean futures. You know something? They’re cold, bloodless people. It’s in their slogans, it’s in their rhetoric: “No pain, no gain,” “Just do it,” “Life is short, play hard,” “Shit happens, deal with it,” “Get a life.” These people went from “Do your own thing” to “Just say no!” They went from “Love is all you need” to “Whoever winds up with the most toys, wins”, and they went from cocaine to Rogaine. And you know something? They’re still counting grams, only now it’s fat grams. And the worst of it is we have to watch the commercials on TV for Levi’s loose-fitting jeans and fat-ass Docker pants because these degenerate, yuppie, Boomer cocksuckers couldn’t keep their hands off the croissants and the Häägen-Dasz and their big fat asses have spread all over and they have to wear fat-ass Docker pants. Fuck these Boomers, fuck these yuppies… and fuck everyone, now that I think of it.”
George Carlin – 1996
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Pieter Nosworthy July 16, 2013 at 8:01 pm (Quote) #
Clarence Thomas, Alphonzo Rachel, Thomas Sowell, and Mia Love.
Heads exploding? Dark thoughts about “house niggers” and “uncle toms”?
Isn’t it nice to check our hypocrisy every now and then?
I grew up in south Texas in the 70s. Racist but honest. It was only the good fortune of growing up in the shadow of the Johnson Spacecraft Center that tempered the crazy.
Conservatism, the Constitution, and coherent challenge where called.
Feeling right about an argument is not our way.
If feelings are the new rule of law, admit to whatever might afflict your narcissistic good judgement that affects our common liberty.
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Pieter Nosworthy July 16, 2013 at 8:20 pm (Quote) #
Doc,
What is your estimation of a person’s courage in the face of overwhelming condemnation?
I relish and respect the underdog (as long as they’re not islamists or nazis). Even the liberal, in the most severe conservative sense, has value to our society in their voice. If it weren’t for some liberals, the 20th century southern status quo and Viet Nam War would have been acceptable in every reprehensible sense.
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Doc, I’d be grateful for an explanation for the banning.
Is it because I’m obtuse and overly rude…or perhaps for my explicit views on the Constitution, Islamism, race, and your asshat tendency for closing a conversation unprepared to discuss?
I meant “asshat” in a most respectable term.
[I would note that the “worst” of your comments were deleted. Generally you persisted in trying to discuss topics that aren’t about conspiracy theories related to Obama, you posted lots of stuff on threads to which they were not related (thread hijacking) and generally when you were in the mix, the discussion devolved to ranting and name calling–that is, your attitudes and language brings out the worst in people. Discussion of the issues this blog is here to discuss got drowned out. Calling me a coward (in comments not published), or “ass hat” here are examples of an inciting style. So the ban remains, and this dialog is ended. Doc.]
It should come as no surprise that the inmates at Birther Report are also sandy hook deniers. Bunch of real sickos. Came across an article today, where Falcon was crowing about all the “false flag” operations. Then he and a bunch of them went on about how Sandy Hook was all lies and actors. This goes beyond misguided ignorance. Falcon and his ilk are just plain evil.
And they were probably that way before they ever heard the name “Barack Obama.” Birtherism is a magnet for the disaffected, disempowered, and detestable.
The way I see it, the only difference between birthers and the Taliban is a body count.
I was going to say, “lipstick.”
How about “worse fashion sense”
I continue to be puzzled by folks who fill out the contact form on this blog, thinking that they go to Orly Taitz, Leo Donofrio or Mario Apuzzo. This one came yesterday:
Comments: Hi Mr. Apuzzo: I am very interested in your petition for certification to the NJ Supreme Court re the Obama matter. I have been trying to read the petition but am unable to access it. Can you please forward it to me in a Word document form? I am very interested to read. Much appreciated. Thanks, – Christine
“Hi – Is this the record company? I have a new band you want to hear. When can we audition?”
Page updated and expired hyperlink fixed:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmarks/associations/
The Wayback Machine has been a real asset for making this blog’s references persistent.
http://wayback.archive.org
Maybe you should add a disclaimer above the contact form saying you’re not mario, orly etc and any forms filled out directly referencing them would go directly to Jim Johnson or the Obama Administration… I doubt they’d read it though.
I was reminded again today, of how the Birthers worry that Obama is controlled by outside influences was not a worry of all the founders. From a statement by James Madison in the August 13th debates at the Constitution Convention:
In short, the intrigues would from those we thought were safe.
Yet he believes Zimmerman did not cause that crash. It’s only a false flag if the others do it. 😉
Shows how some on the right still seem to long for “only white landowners may vote”.
The Green Party in Germany once demanded a change in voting laws so that people should be able to vote for those children who couldn’t legally vote yet (“to give those children a voice”). Of course this wouldn’t just have require a change to the Constitution to even be possible but also would’ve created the problem how parents would vote who do not vote the same – if you have three minor children and one parent votes CDU and the other SPD, how are the 3 extra votes distributed?
This shows silly undemocratic ideas can pop up everywhere.
Mr. “One-PIssed-Off-Viet-Nam-Vet” over at the Post and Email is asking questions:
“If I can see the truth, why can’t others? If I can change a lifetime of being a slob and become less of a slob, why can’t others? If I can see that the Democratic Party has become an enemy of our Constitution, why can’t others? And if I can figure out that Obama is an illegal Muslim immigrant, not even a U.S. citizen, someone who is guilty as all sin as an identity thief, why can’t others?”
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/07/some-things-you-just-cant-change-obamas.html#sthash.rAT0EA7f.dpuf
Why can’t others see what he sees? Maybe they need the illuminating power of H2’s subconscious. Or his drugs . . . or whatever he uses to see what’s not there.
I had forgotten that The Post & Email had gone subscription so I didn’t get much when I clicked on the story link. The link to “subscription Options” is another matter. What a scam!!
Up to $600 a year for Level 5 privileges….if you pay in one payment. Otherwise it’s $60 a month or……$720 for all the bile you can take and spread around the internet.
On the one hand I’d love to know how many subscribers there are but, on the other, I’m not so sure.
A scam you say? If the Post and Email is a scam than so is cellulite cream. So too, are free energy machines. Why, in your book, I suppose that wealthy Nigerian prince so desperately in need of help is running a scam!
Nothing new here. Forty years ago I worked with an anchor man who got a flyer from a friend of a friend telling about a guy who had discovered how to produce unlimited amounts of electricity from water (or maybe it was air) and he wanted us to get the story on the air….immediately.
It took me a couple weeks to convince him the story was bogus.
Now…..about that cellulite cream………………..
Ron Burgundy? Burgundy’ll read whatever’s on the prompter.
Close…..very close.
At least no one is throwing bananas at Obama:
Italian integration minister issues defiant response to banana stunt
Cécile Kyenge, whose groundbreaking term as Italy’s first black minister has been repeatedly marred by racist insults and protests, has reacted with defiance after bananas were thrown at her during a political rally.
Read on:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/28/italian-cecile-kyenge-banana-stunt
[To save you a click, the item referenced below is the so-called “Bomford certificate.” It was created by altering the birth certificate found on the Internet of a fellow named Jeffrey David Bomford from South Australia by an anti-birther to prove that birthers are gullible and credulous. It’s amazing that here four years later, it’s still working.
You are welcome to join in the discussion on this site, but it’s not a place just to dump links to start an argument. Also, it’s not a place to start discussions that aren’t related to the article topics where they are posted. We have an Open Thread for that (see menu), and I have moved your comment there. If you persist dumping in the wrong place, you’ll be banned. Doc.]
Something for everyone to fight about:
http://thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm
also:
http://www.conservativeactionalerts.com/2013/01/article-ii-has-now-been-erased/
And there’s plenty more where those came from