Boyles: birther grudge match

KNUS talk radio host Peter Boyles telephoned Kapi’olani Hospital a few years back, pretending to be a tourist coming to Hawaii to show his family the birthplace of Barack Obama. He asked if the had the right hospital, and was told that he did. Nevertheless, Boyles continues to be a birther, frequently giving platform to the likes of Orly Taitz, and today Boyles had a lollapalooza of a show with:

  • Carl (straight from the lips of Mike Zullo) Gallups
  • Lawrence (“flipped Obots”) Sellin
  • Brian (saw the Zullo behind the curtain, and didn’t like what he saw) Reilly

Cold Case Posse critic Reilly is the only one of the three who was a member of the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Cold Case Posse and who actually knows what was going on. The others just try to find hidden meaning in Zullo’s obfuscation.

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161 Responses to Boyles: birther grudge match

  1. Yoda says:

    That was the one of the greatest things I ever listened to.

  2. wrecking ball says:

    Yoda:
    That was the one of the greatest things I ever listened to.

    … and it keeps getting funnier every time i hear it!

  3. john says:

    Peter Boyles blew Gallups out of the water today. As usual, Gallups had “nothing” new to say or report.

  4. Yeah, it was pretty delicious hearing Gallups on a show where he had no control of the mike and was repeatedly getting called out by Boyles and Sellin on his Grade A prime BS line that I know stuff you don’t know and I am not going to tell you that he pulls weekly on his Freedom Friday show.

    Boyles must have forgotten that Kapi’olani call he made. He repeated the lie that no hospital will claim that Obama was born there. Fortunately for Boyles no clip is available since he got fired from the station where he made that call.

  5. Yoda says:

    And being the egomaniac that he is, ppSimmons has already posted videos about how Gallups “exposed” them.

    Favorite line? If I asked you for the time you would tell me how to make a watch.

  6. Hey, what about the news that Loretta Fuddy is not a forger? Gallups is correct of course but not for the reason he would have you believe. He is correct because there was no forgery.

    john:
    Peter Boyles blew Gallups out of the water today.As usual, Gallups had “nothing” new to say or report.

  7. Terry Graves says:

    And they will eat their own. Gallops was on Boyles show Friday for 45 minutes and said absolutely nothing. Of course, Boyles hasn’t had a new thought in years. I wish the Doctor or another knowledgeable blogger would go on his show and disprove all of his falsehoods.

  8. john says:

    Who ever said the Loretta Fuddy was forger? It is only been pointed out that her death was highly unusual and very suspicious although nothing conclusive was proven. Beside, so what is Fuddy is not the forger. David Axlerod is probably not the forger too along with David Gibbs. It’s failrly useless information. If Gallup really wants to dazzle people, he should release something that debunks the Xerox finding.

  9. gorefan says:

    The timeline of this recent adventure goes something like this:

    Sept 5th, Zullo goes on Gallups show says the press conferences won’t happen before the November election but it has nothing to do with politics.

    Sept 12th, Sellin goes on Boyles show and says he thinks postpone the press conference until after the election is a political move.

    Sept 17th, Zullo blasts Boyles show as media censorship because it won’t have Gallips on it.

    Sept 19th, Gallups first appearance on Boyles show. Boyles says it was 45 minutes of saying nothing.

    Sept 22nd, Sellin on Boyles show says Gallups said nothing new.

    Sept 23rd, Gallups/Sellin/Boyles have a knockdown drag out for 25 minutes, Reilly/Sellin/Boyles have a conversation for one hour.

    to be continued

  10. The only bad thing about this is that I have to come up with a few concise statements to update the Cold Case Posse Timeline. Gorefan just helped though.

  11. wrecking ball says:

    gorefan:

    … Reilly/Sellin/Boyles have a conversation for one hour.

    i liked the part where reilly said that zullo’s press conference “evidence” had all been debunked….. and boyles agreed with him!

    since boyles still believes the LFBC is a forgery i’ll assume his listening skills were a little weak at that point.

  12. wrecking ball says:

    gorefan:

    to be continued

    $5 says we’ll have a “freak-out friday”.

  13. gorefan says:

    On today’s show Boyles told Gallups “I don’t know who you are!” but on Friday’s show he said, “The last time we spoke I was working for another radio station.”

  14. Yoda says:

    I know that Captain Tuttle contacted Boyles about being on his show. Boyles never responded.

  15. If he actually succeeded, it would dazzle me!

    john: If Gallup really wants to dazzle people, he should release something that debunks the Xerox finding.

  16. roxy7655 says:

    Eheu! It is to laugh!

    I am undebunkable.

  17. john says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    If he actually succeeded, it would dazzle me!

    Well, Zullo and Gallups do admantly maintain they have debunked the Xerox, so I would like them to produce that before I’m willing to accept Xerox finding. Of course we have the Reed Hayes report to consider too which may or may not debunk the Xerox.

  18. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    roxy7655:
    Eheu! It is to laugh!

    I am undebunkable.

    That’s our Roxy! The sex appeal of Crow, the acerbic wit of Tom Servo, and the sass of Gypsy, all rolled into one machine! 😉

    john: If Gallup really wants to dazzle people, he should release something that debunks the Xerox finding.

    He has a better chance of raising the Titanic.

  19. Arthur says:

    john: If Gallup really wants to dazzle people, he should release something that debunks the Xerox finding.

    You can’t release what you don’t have.

  20. Arrogantlyignorant says:

    That was awesome. It’s great to hear lyin Carl all flustered and unable to control the dialog. Normally I can barely stand listening to him. Hearing him cornered like that was sweet.

  21. gorefan says:

    Reality Check:
    update the Cold Case Posse Timeline

    You can probably trace the start of the family feud back to the May23rd/24th dustup. Gallups and Arpaio were scheduled for the Gallups show of the 23rd but only Zullo showed up. And there were no big announcements. Sellin wrote an article about his disappointment in the lack of news. He titled it “Managing Expectations About the Cold Case Posse Investigation”. Birther Report republished his article and Gallups responded with a YouTube tirade which was followed by a Birther Reporter Editorial defending itself. Much hilarity ensued.

    All three (Sellins’ article, Gallups’ YouTube and BR editorial) were subsequently scrubbed from the various sites.

    I believe those were the first shots fired in A&E’s new series “Birther Wars”

  22. RanTalbott says:

    Gerbil Report seems to have accidentally stumbled onto a bit of truth on the page about Gallups getting spanked:

    Who won that round?

    Obama!

    And then go on to ask:

    Can’t we all just get along?

    Well, Bob, you’re a bunch of paranoid psychotics, who live in a fantasy world and dream of overthrowing the government in a genocidal coup.

    So … no. Ya can’t. It’d be like asking dolphins to march in the Macy’s parade: even if you could talk them into wanting to do it, it’s just not possible.

  23. Keith says:

    RanTalbott: It’d be like asking dolphins to march in the Macy’s parade: even if you could talk them into wanting to do it, it’s just not possible.

    Actually the Dolphins are playing the Jets in New Jersey on 2 December; I don’t think it would be too difficult to get them to march in the Parade on the Thursday before the game. Who wouldn’t want to spend Thanksgiving in New York/New Jersey instead of in Miami?

  24. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    gorefan: All three (Sellins’ article, Gallups’ YouTube and BR editorial) were subsequently scrubbed from the various sites.

    As will inevitably happen with the Second Birfer War in a few days, I suppose.
    They have all the traits of the abusive husband, including “shoot first, ask questions later” followed by “OMG I am so sorry, dear, I love you”.

    gorefan: I believe those were the first shots fired in A&E’s new series “Birther Wars”

    It may get interesting. If this hullaballoo convinces Zullo his “any day now, but not now” dance doesn’t work anymore, I’m certainly curious what bits he’s going to feed his freaky followers to rile them up again towards “OMG this is it”.

  25. If memory serves me right, the Xerox evidence came after the Reed Hayes report, so it could not have addressed it.

    The Xerox experiment has been published and subjected to critique. It withstood all criticism and I would consider it proven certainly beyond a reasonable doubt that the White House PDF is consistent with the scan of a paper document by a Xerox 7655 WorkCentre machine.

    Zullo has published nothing. If he had evidence, he could have produced it without involving anything else he is investigating. The only way Zullo would have any forensic evidence about the Xerox experiment is if some birther sent it to him–he has no forensic experts on his team. If a birther did it, why didn’t they critique it when the experiment was published?

    There is simply no reason to believe that the Cold Case Posse has ANYTHING refuting the Xerox hypothesis. Didn’t Zullo say it was of “no concern” when obviously it is the most damning refutation of all birther forgery theories? That was facially a lie. If he’s going to lie once, why would you believe him again.

    john: Well, Zullo and Gallups do admantly maintain they have debunked the Xerox, so I would like them to produce that before I’m willing to accept Xerox finding. Of course we have the Reed Hayes report to consider too which may or may not debunk the Xerox.

  26. john says:

    In light of what just happend in with Peter Boyles and Carl Gallup, I am very surprised Frank Arduini hasn’t called in to speak his piece. Frank wrote a what must have been a 20 page narrative admoshing Carl Gallup and Zullo and CCP. What is even more interesting is that Frank Arduini lives in Colorado. He must have the ability to hear Peter Boyles live from his radio every morning. If Brian Reilly can get on the show, I wonder why Frank Arduini hasn’t gotten on the show.

  27. Bob says:

    I never listened to Gallops before but he sure comes across as a slippery, slimy grifter-type.

  28. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Arrogantlyignorant: That was awesome. It’s great to hear lyin Carl all flustered and unable to control the dialog.

    Birthers generally fear any venue that they cannot control. If they can’t establish an echo chamber, they really want no part of it.

  29. The European says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:

    why would you believe himagain.

    Because John / Jim wants to believe. You gotta serve somebody, and his Gods are A and Z ….

  30. 3Fiddy6 says:

    I get the sense that the Birthers are at the end of their patience with A&Z and Gallups.

    What will Mike Zullo do? “Universe Shattering” is a pretty high bar he set for himself.

  31. wrecking ball says:

    it’s interesting to watch most of the few hardcore birthers left evolve into the “cult of zullo”. it will be interesting to see what happens if arpaio ever throws zullo under the bus ( which i believe is a distinct possibility ). would they turn on arpaio?

  32. CarlOrcas says:

    wrecking ball:
    it’s interesting to watch most of the few hardcore birthers left evolve into the “cult of zullo”. it will be interesting to see what happens if arpaio ever throws zullo under the bus ( which i believe is a distinct possibility ). would they turn on arpaio?

    It only really matters if they are registered voters in Maricopa County and if….big if, in my opinion…..Arpaio decides to run for another term.

    I’m putting my money on Arpaio just fading away…..leaving Zullo standing in the middle of the road.

  33. nbc says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    If memory serves me right, the Xerox evidence came after the Reed Hayes report, so it could not have addressed it.

    Hayes came after Xerox and it was ‘cited’ as showing that the Xerox workflow must be wrong. Of course, Hayes’ report was never released and no details about any rebutting evidence have ever been presented. And for good reasons as the Xerox workflow stands quite unassailable.

    It is of ‘no concern’ shows how shallow the investigation really is. Initially it was cited as 100% evidence of forgery and now it has disappeared because they realize it does not serve their purposes.
    That’s not how a good scientist approaches matters.

    Remember that the arguments were that it has been proven that the long form birth certificate PDF was surely and conclusively a forgery because of a myriad of ‘defects’. When the xerox workflow showed that most all of these ‘defects’ could be explained by a simple workflow, the effect was quite devastating.

    And thus we have not heard about it ever since the moment we made the results available.

    It was devastating to those hoping that they had found the ‘smoking gun’ and combined with other evidence, it totally destroyed the claims about foreign birth. The birthers never really recovered and have been recycling other conspiracy theories about Obama having lost his citizenship as a child (close to impossible).

    Just because they do not like our President… They are inventing stories… Shameful really… But also quite ineffective…

    And it must drive them crazy, being so powerless to stop the progress by our President.

  34. OllieOxenFree says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: If memory serves me right, the Xerox evidence came after the Reed Hayes report, so it could not have addressed it.

    We first learned of the Reed Hayes report in a Gallups interview on June 1, 2013. It was when Gallups was most famously quoted as saying, “”…the Obamabots and the mainstream media are going to have one heck of a time labeling us as right-wing idiots.”

    The Reed Hayes report was also apparently discussed at the CSPOA convention which would have been prior to that date, so Zullo was clearly in possession of that report before then.

    NBC began publishing his findings about the Xerox workcenter evidence on June 22. So you are correct. The Reed Hayes report came out well in advance of the Xerox evidence and could not possibly address the work NBC and Reality Check have done.

  35. wrecking ball says:

    nbc:

    And thus we have not heard about it ever since the moment we made the results available.

    boyles was still claiming that a PDF would never have layers.

  36. ellen says:

    I was wondering if anyone would like to help me out over at:

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-sheriff-joe-takes-aggressive-question-obamas-birth-certificate/#comment-341237

    It’s getting pretty intense.

  37. wrecking ball says:

    Terry Graves:
    I wish the Doctor or another knowledgeable blogger would go on his show and disprove all of his falsehoods.

    doc and boyles both now have a mutual friend in brian reilly. i’d love to see doc on the show with reilly to politely, calmly and rationally discuss birtherism. if boyles truly was “only after the truth” this would seem like a no-brainer.

  38. Sef says:

    ellen:
    I was wondering if anyone would like to help me out over at:

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-sheriff-joe-takes-aggressive-question-obamas-birth-certificate/#comment-341237

    It’s getting pretty intense.

    You seem to be holding your own against a bunch of idjits who never will accept reality. You have covered all the points. Maybe if you signed an affidavit (with 3 notaries) that would shut them up.

  39. Curious George says:

    John…..now that you’re back….. Was Arpaio telling the truth about his campaign not making a “penny” off the BC investimagination (on September 20, ’14 Kaufman County TX Tea Party youtube video) or was Arpaio telling the truth when he said the investimagination will bring in so much money that you won’t know what to do with it. (The JOE SHOW film documentary.) So what is the truth, John? You really trust this guy?

  40. You do seem to be doing well. It just looks one-sided because there are more of them than of you. Just keep hitting them with the facts. Probably short messages are better than long ones. Take the low-hanging fruit. Don’t waste too much time casting pearls before swine.

    I added a couple of comments. But keep in mind that these are birthers and birthers never respond to facts and evidence. If they did, they would not still be birthers. Don’t judge your performance by their response–it’s prerecorded.

    ellen: I was wondering if anyone would like to help me out

  41. gorefan says:

    Boyles did a quick rundown this morning of yesterday’s tussle. Best quote,

    “These guys [Zullo and Gallups] are running, I don’t want to say a grift, but I’ll say close to it maybe the Three Card Monte.”

  42. ellen says:

    Many thanks Doc. Many thanks Sef.

    Sincerely

    Ellen.

  43. wrecking ball says:

    gorefan:
    “These guys [Zullo and Gallups] are running, I don’t want to say a grift, but I’ll say close to it maybe the Three Card Monte.”

    wooohooooo! let the escalation begin.

  44. bob says:

    john:
    If Brian Reilly can get on the show, I wonder why Frank Arduini hasn’t gotten on the show.

    An excellent question for Peter Boyles. He may be reached at Peter@710KNUS.com.

    Please let us know Peter’s response to your inquiry.

  45. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    john: Well, Zullo and Gallups do admantly maintain they have debunked the Xerox, so I would like them to produce that before I’m willing to accept Xerox finding.Of course we have the Reed Hayes report to consider too which may or may not debunk the Xerox.

    You mean the reed hayes report they haven’t mentioned in months? It must not have been anything since they don’t mention it anymore.

  46. Arthur says:

    Sef: You seem to be holding your own against a bunch of idjits who never will accept reality. You have covered all the points. Maybe if you signed an affidavit (with 3 notaries) that would shut them up.

    I agree with Sef. Ellen did a wonderful job sticking to the facts and presenting them clearly and dispassionately,.

  47. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    john: Well, Zullo and Gallups do admantly maintain they have debunked the Xerox

    And yet they haven’t shown a shred of proof to debunk it. Where is their reproducible experiment? Hmm? Where is their process at?

  48. The European says:

    gorefan: Boyles did a quick rundown this morning of yesterday’s tussle. Best quote,

    “These guys [Zullo and Gallups] are running, I don’t want to say a grift, but I’ll say close to it maybe the Three Card Monte.”

    gorefan,

    I stole this for a post at GerbilReport …. Any royalties to pay ?

  49. Curious George says:

    gorefan

    “These guys [Zullo and Gallups] are running, I don’t want to say a grift, but I’ll say close to it maybe the Three Card Monte.”

    This is a very good day!

  50. Curious George says:

    Right out of the text book……….

    http://www.pagat.com/misc/monte.html

  51. nbc says:

    OllieOxenFree: NBC began publishing his findings about the Xerox workcenter evidence on June 22. So you are correct. The Reed Hayes report came out well in advance of the Xerox evidence and could not possibly address the work NBC and Reality Check have done.

    Wow, there you go, I do not even remember the dates myself 🙂

  52. nbc says:

    wrecking ball: boyles was still claiming that a PDF would never have layers.

    That assumes that Boyles is well informed and interested in pursuing the facts.

  53. nbc says:

    john: Well, Zullo and Gallups do admantly maintain they have debunked the Xerox, so I would like them to produce that before I’m willing to accept Xerox finding

    You are such a tool… They have claimed that it is of no relevance, which allows them to not have to address it.

    There is just no way they could have debunked it, and if they had, it would have been all over the internet.

    I understand that you need others to tell you what to believe.

    Such a follower…

  54. RanTalbott says:

    Does anyone have URLs for images of Hawaiian LFBCs with examples of “unusual” self-reported racial designations or parental birth countries? I’ve found a few in the past, but foolishly failed to bookmark them, and google is bringing up vast numbers of irrelevancies when I try to search for them now.

    Thanks.

  55. Sef says:

    wrecking ball: doc and boyles both now have a mutual friend in brian reilly. i’d love to see doc on the show with reilly to politely, calmly and rationally discuss birtherism. if boyles truly was “only after the truth” this would seem like a no-brainer.

    I think Brian Reilly likes to play both sides of the fence. While he stated the facts from his time on the CCP he did not counter Boyles’ statements about the birth certificate being a forgery and Ann Dunham’s trip to school in Washington state. It’s possible he doesn’t have all the knowledge of all the meme’s as “ellen” has exhibited today, but he didn’t even make an attempt at countering Boyles’ or Sellin’s tawdry remarks. Maybe someone on the RC call tonight can bring him up to speed on a few things.

  56. gorefan says:

    RanTalbott:
    Does anyone have URLs for images of Hawaiian LFBCs with examples of “unusual” self-reported racial designations or parental birth countries? I’ve found a few in the past, but foolishly failed to bookmark them, and google is bringing up vast numbers of irrelevancies when I try to search for them now.

    Thanks.

    Johann Ah’nee’s BC and her daughter’s come to mind:

    http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/298537/

    Doc posted part of one:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/1961-hawaii-race-codes-disclosed/

    Virginia Sunahara’s COLB has her mother listed as Korean which is not on the Federal code list but is on the Hawaiian.

    http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/09/SUNAHARA-short-form-COLB.jpg

    According to Mark Gillar, they should have struck out Korean and entered “other nonwhite” LOL

  57. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    wrecking ball: it will be interesting to see what happens if arpaio ever throws zullo under the bus ( which i believe is a distinct possibility ). would they turn on arpaio?

    My guess is: yes, definitely.
    (I didn’t get the “Sheriff’s Kit handed to Arpaio” stunt either, as if he wasn’t aware of the whole mess before.)

    The reason is that Zullo

    (a) more directly addresses the birthers and therefore appears closer to them than Arpaio

    (b) would never make public statements like “sorry, this is all we can do, you’re on your own now”, not in a million years whereas Arpaio eventually will have to tell birthers to get lost.

    Also, Arpaio can much more easily be seen as “in it for his own political gain” whereas nobody’s gonna doubt Zullo’s motives (as we know victims will never doubt their grifter, and there is no other reason than grifting and being a “true believer” for him to be on the case).

  58. RanTalbott says:

    The Magic M (not logged in): (I didn’t get the “Sheriff’s Kit handed to Arpaio” stunt either, as if he wasn’t aware of the whole mess before.)

    Could be:
    a. “See? We’re supporting you by getting the word out”, or
    b. “Why aren’t you doing this?”

  59. Rickey says:

    nbc: That assumes that Boyles is well informed and interested in pursuing the facts.

    Boyles was once a respectable talk show host. He was a close friend of Alan Berg, a liberal Denver talk show host who was gunned down by white supremacists in his driveway in 1984. I lived in Colorado for ten years and Boyles always struck me as a smart guy. That makes me wonder if he really believes the birther crap, or if it is just all about ratings.

  60. Joey says:

    gorefan: Johann Ah’nee’s BC and her daughter’s come to mind:

    http://www.wnd.com/2011/05/298537/

    Doc posted part of one:

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/07/1961-hawaii-race-codes-disclosed/

    Virginia Sunahara’s COLB has her mother listed as Korean which is not on the Federal code list but is on the Hawaiian.

    http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/09/SUNAHARA-short-form-COLB.jpg

    According to Mark Gillar, they should have struck out Korean and entered “other nonwhite” LOL

    “Birther Princess” Miki Booth’s son Alan’s Certificate of Live Birth shows his parents as being “Caucasian/Japanese” and “Caucasian/Hawaiian” respectively.
    http://www.wnd.com/2010/02/124656/

  61. Dave B. says:

    Just like always. An honest-to-goodness champ.

    Reality Check:
    . Gorefan just helped though.

  62. Dave B. says:

    Yeah, some guy calling himself “chief patriot” over at the Freedom Outpost cesspool, who says he “literally grew up in the printing industry as a child + served as a pioneer with over 50 years of experience” is telling people to ignore me. Says I’m trying to control all comments posted by Patriotic Americans. I never knew I had such swing.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Birthers generally fear any venue that they cannot control. If they can’t establish an echo chamber, they really want no part of it.

  63. The Magic M says:

    Joey: “Birther Princess” Miki Booth’s son Alan’s Certificate of Live Birth shows his parents as being “Caucasian/Japanese” and “Caucasian/Hawaiian” respectively.

    And that’s one of the things that caused her to be thrown under the bus.

  64. I have now had several discussions with Brian Reilly both on the show and off and I can tell you he is not into the details as much as we debunkers are. I take him at his word when he says the Hawaii letter of verification to SoS Bennett ended the matter for him.

    Yes, he could have probably corrected Boyles on a few misstatements of fact but he did a good job of keeping Boyles on the topic of Zullo and Gallups. We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him. I can’t wait to hear Zullo cross examined under oath. That is why it will never happen though.

    Sef: I think Brian Reilly likes to play both sides of the fence. While he stated the facts from his time on the CCP he did not counter Boyles’ statements about the birth certificate being a forgery and Ann Dunham’s trip to school in Washington state. It’s possible he doesn’t have all the knowledge of all the meme’s as “ellen” has exhibited today, but he didn’t even make an attempt at countering Boyles’ or Sellin’s tawdry remarks. Maybe someone on the RC call tonight can bring him up to speed on a few things.

  65. bovril says:

    Lets not forget, Mr Reilly is also the one who actually went and contacted the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training organisation and received confirmation that Zullo is most certainly NOT a real peace officer, certified and trained as required by AZ statue.

    I am of the view that Mr Reilly is exactly as seen, a ‘classic’ old school Republican who was concerned, asked questions, received answers, analysed them critically and accepted the facts.

    I wish the Republican party hewed more to him and less to the loud crazies.

  66. BillTheCat says:

    Sorry, but the “questions” never should have been asked in the first place. They weren’t for Reagan, Clinton, Bush, etc. Just the colored man. Just the guy with the “funny” sounding, foreign name. I will never forgive him for that move, period. HE STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS IN AZ. I’m happy that he is contrite, made amends, is on the side of truth now – yadda yadda yadda – but sorry, nuh-uh, nope, it never should have happened, and he can live with people thinking about him like that. /shrug

  67. John Reilly says:

    BillTheCat: Sorry, but the “questions” never should have been asked in the first place. They weren’t for Reagan, Clinton, Bush, etc. Just the colored man. Just the guy with the “funny” sounding, foreign name. I will never forgive him for that move, period. HE STARTED THIS WHOLE MESS IN AZ. I’m happy that he is contrite, made amends, is on the side of truth now – yadda yadda yadda – but sorry, nuh-uh, nope, it never should have happened, and he can live with people thinking about him like that. /shrug

    I agree.

  68. Bonsall Obot says:

    BillTheCat:
    …he is contrite, made amends, is on the side of truth now – yadda yadda yadda –

    Not quite; B. Reilly continues to lie about the President and the ACA. Only on the issue of eligibility has he stopped lying.

  69. CarlOrcas says:

    Reality Check: We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him. I can’t wait to hear Zullo cross examined under oath. That is why it will never happen though.

    It will never happen because, in this situation, Zullo is a public figure with limited options when it comes to bringing a case for defamation.

    His credibility is in tatters with this latest revelation to say nothing of the three years he has spent promising much and producing nothing.

    Add to that the fact that he doesn’t have any money personally and that that posse and/or county can’t sue on his behalf and what you have here is Mr. Zullo blowing smoke.

  70. Curious George says:

    bovril
    September 26, 2014

    “Lets not forget, Mr Reilly is also the one who actually went and contacted the Arizona Peace Officer Standards and Training organisation and received confirmation that Zullo is most certainly NOT a real peace officer, certified and trained as required by AZ statue.”

    Wouldn’t it be interesting if Carl Gallups finally saw the light?

  71. CarlOrcas says:

    Curious George: Wouldn’t it be interesting if Carl Gallups finally saw the light?

    I suspect he is polishing his tap shoes for today’s show. It will be interesting to see how he handles this.

    Prediction: He will say Sheriff Arpaio, as the constitutional sheriff and “supreme” law enforcement officer in the county, has the authority to appoint, all on his own, people like Zullo with full police powers. He doesn’t but I bet he goes in that direction.

  72. Where did he say that?

    Reality Check: We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him.

  73. Arthur says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    Where did he say that?

    Check out Post and Email, or the article at Birther Report.

  74. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Reality Check: We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him.

    Oh, that’ll be rich!
    “Can the plaintiff prove damages?”
    “Yes your honor, that man’s words have damaged my ability to grift suckers out of their money!”

  75. Arthur says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: “Yes your honor, that man’s words have damaged my ability to grift suckers out of their money!”

    I don’t think that claim would work, insofar as the suckers at B.R. have closed ranks behind Zullo and Gallups and probably would be even more motivated to participate in the gift.

  76. CarlOrcas says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Oh, that’ll be rich!
    “Can the plaintiff prove damages?”
    “Yes your honor, that man’s words have damaged my ability to grift suckers out of their money!”

    Pigs in bright pink underwear will be flying over downtown Phoenix before Zullo manages to get any sort of defamation case heard by a real judge.

  77. Thinker (mobile) says:

    The Hawaii verification letter was sent to the AZ SoS in May of 2012. Yet, in September of 2012, Brian Reilly wrote this in a letter to Gov. Brewer:

    “We have a president in office who is an enigma. All of his records have been sealed. His birth certificate and his Selective Service System registration form have been determined to be probable criminal forgeries by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Obama’s Social Security Number is also being questioned.”

    http://www.westernjournalism.com/an-open-letter-to-the-honorable-arizona-governor-jan-brewer/#BQUlAjxQQbfcVTda.99

    I believe that, in retrospect, he can see that his birtherism should have ended with the Hawaii verification. But I don’t believe it actually did.

    Reality Check:
    I have now had several discussions with Brian Reilly both on the show and off and I can tell you he is not into the details as much as we debunkers are. I take him at his word when he says the Hawaii letter of verification to SoS Bennett ended the matter for him.

  78. Rickey says:

    Reality Check:

    We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him. I can’t wait to hear Zullo cross examined under oath. That is why it will never happen though.

    Also, typically people who publicly threaten to file a defamation lawsuit never follow through. If they were going to sue, they would just go ahead and file suit. The threat is just more Zullo hot air.

  79. JPotter says:

    Reality Check: We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him.

    By which he means to execute a citizen’s arrest (after a thorough investimagation, of course) and haul him before a citizen’s grand jury? Oh, wait, no, of course not, Zullo is a Real Lawman™. None of that fake stuff for him 😉

  80. wrecking ball says:

    Reality Check: We know Reilly did a good job because Zullo is so mad he is talking about taking legal action against him.

    “We have been monitoring [ Brian Reilly ] for the last eight months, and on that broadcast, Mr. Reilly gave me a gift: we have been waiting for him to come off of an internet broadcast and finally do the slanderous hit-job that he did on public airwaves.

    “Brian Reilly is fueled by those who are entertained by his trashing of the investigation and his own self-fulfilling motivations. However, there are aspects of his past – facts – that, when they come to light, in my opinion, people are going to find extremely troubling.”

    – Mike Zullo

  81. CarlOrcas says:

    wrecking ball: “Brian Reilly is fueled by those who are entertained by his trashing of the investigation and his own self-fulfilling motivations. However, there are aspects of his past – facts – that, when they come to light, in my opinion, people are going to find extremely troubling.”

    – Mike Zullo

    For those too young to remember here, courtesy of Wikipedia, is a primer on McCarthyism:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

  82. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Gallups is losing it on air talking a million miles a minute. He’s pretty much alluding to a lawsuit again Boyles claiming that Boyles can be in legal trouble, etc. Oh please do sue Boyles gallups.

  83. Jim says:

    WOOHOO!!! Please Zullo, go after Reilly. Nothing would be better than for you to have to defend everything you’ve said from the first news conference to the present…including everything Gallups has said, since you’ve designated him as your spokesman. I’ll bet Mr Reilly would enjoy having his attorney tear you a new one under oath…especially about the finances of the CCP. 😀

  84. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Oh wow new information!!!! Mike Zullo says Fuddy wasn’t the forger. He said that months ago when he said Fuddy wasn’t killed. Only an idiot would claim that Fuddy was the forger.

    Lol the other new information “Mike Zullo” now knows who the forger is. They said that over a year ago

  85. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Lol the cold case posse’s “forensic” investigator says according to Carl Gallups that the nude photos aren’t of Ann Dunham. Wow how is this new information Carl? We’ve known this for years. Loren Collins knew this long before your supposed expert.

  86. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater:
    Gallups is losing it on air talking a million miles a minute.He’s pretty much alluding to a lawsuit again Boyles claiming that Boyles can be in legal trouble, etc.Oh please do sue Boyles gallups.

    Where is Zullo????

  87. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    CarlOrcas: Where is Zullo????

    Doesn’t look like zullo is coming on today.

  88. Thinker (mobile) says:

    No Zullo, but the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

    I’m not making this up. This is his new revelation.

  89. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Doesn’t look like zullo is coming on today.

    Probably busy trying to explain to AZPOST why he has been impersonating a peace officer.

  90. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    Thinker (mobile):
    No Zullo, but the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

    I’m not making this up. This is his new revelation.

    Pretty much information already known by the rational sane world.

  91. CarlOrcas says:

    Thinker (mobile):
    No Zullo, but the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

    I’m not making this up. This is his new revelation.

    In other words Gallups is saying Sheriff Arpaio was lying when he said no department resources were being utilized in the investigation.

    But….maybe someone can help me here….what the hell difference would it make regarding the validity of Barack Obama’s birth in Hawaii if the picture was of his mother?

  92. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Thinker (mobile): I’m not making this up. This is his new revelation.

    I expect this is how all of their “revelations” will play out.

  93. Jim says:

    CarlOrcas: In other words Gallups is saying Sheriff Arpaio was lying when he said no department resources were being utilized in the investigation.

    You’d think by now that Gallups would realize that someone will call up the MCSO and ask why they’re using resources on a non-investigation.

  94. Dave B. says:

    Okay, that’s another example of things just getting worse. The thought of those guys passing those pictures around, with magnifying glasses, comparing notes, the sweat, the heavy breathing…

    Thinker (mobile):
    No Zullo, but the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

    I’m not making this up. This is his new revelation.

  95. Arthur says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Lol the other new information “Mike Zullo” now knows who the forger is. They said that over a year ago

    Birthers have very short memories. In Birtherstan, there would be no need for a Ministry of Truth scrupulously editing out inconvenient facts from the past. Birthers seem unable (or unwilling) to remember what the leaders of their movement say from one week to the next.

  96. Arthur says:

    Thinker (mobile): the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham.

    I wonder what revelations will be released in the future. . . “Mike Zullo has determined unequivocally that Barack Obama is NOT the love child of Chuck Berry and Sylvia Plath. Zullo also has evidence that, contrary to some reports, Obama did NOT invent rock and roll; rather, that honor goes to Marty McFly.”

  97. RanTalbott says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Lol the other new information “Mike Zullo” now knows who the forger is. They said that over a year ago

    No, Gerbil Report said that. In a rare accident of accuracy, Gallups correctly said that the clowns have been saying that “they’re getting close”, “we’re gonna know real soon now”, “they _think_ they know”, and other such teases. Meanwhile, GR has been slapping “They know!!!” titles on their postings and videos about those remarks.

    But the real irony-meter-breaking gems are:
    a. Gallups darkly hinting at “serious legal problems” for people who _may_ have misquoted him, after spending years spreading baseless accusations of serious crimes, and
    b. making a Big Hairy Deal™ about the difference between “evidence” and “speculation”, and chiding people who mistake the latter for the former.

  98. Dave B. says:

    Absolutely no sense of irony there.

    wrecking ball: “We have been monitoring [ Brian Reilly ] for the last eight months, and on that broadcast, Mr. Reilly gave me a gift:we have been waiting for him to come off of an internet broadcast and finally do the slanderous hit-job that he did on public airwaves.

    “Brian Reilly is fueled by those who are entertained by his trashing of the investigation and his own self-fulfilling motivations. However, there are aspects of his past – facts – that, when they come to light, in my opinion, people are going to find extremely troubling.”

    – Mike Zullo

  99. My understanding is that it took some time for Reilly to decide, based on the Hawaii verification.

    Thinker (mobile): I believe that, in retrospect, he can see that his birtherism should have ended with the Hawaii verification. But I don’t believe it actually did.

  100. I personally would rather some innocent person not be dragged into a lawsuit. If he is, however, we should start a legal defense fund.

    Jim: WOOHOO!!! Please Zullo, go after Reilly. Nothing would be better than for you to have to defend everything you’ve said from the first news conference to the present

  101. Yoda says:

    There are three very good reasons why no lawyer outside the likes of the birthed legal team of Klaymann, Taitz and Appuzo would ever touch this.

    First and most importantly, In my opinion Zullo has made himself a public figure. That means he would would have to prove that the statements are false and were stated with actual malice, which is a pretty hard standard to meet. This would also require Zullo to get on the stand and testify under oath.

    Second, Zullo could not prove that he suffered damages.

    Third, any judgment would be symbolic. Real attorneys want there to be real money that can be collected at the end of litigation. That is why you almost never see people like Reilly sued. There has to be a deep pocket.

  102. CarlOrcas says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I personally would rather some innocent person not be dragged into a lawsuit. If he is, however, we should start a legal defense fund.

    Agreed.

  103. JPotter says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    I personally would rather some innocent person not be dragged into a lawsuit. If he is, however, we should start a legal defense fund.

    Fronted by PayPal buttons? Seriously, talk about getting down on the level of the opposition. Recall how hard it is, as a debunker, to not come across to the general public as being every bit as nutty as the nuts you’re debunking.

    If Reilly were ever sued by anyone connected to the TP or the CCCP, or anyone in regards to this silliness, he and his counsel would immediately countersue for costs and damages. If sued for slander/libel/defamation, the plaintiff(s) would have to prove intent as well as document falsehoods perpetrated by Reilly, right? Good luck to said plaintiffs on that one.

  104. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    Thinker (mobile): the new information that Gallups promised is that Zullo and the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office have investigated the nude photos from the Frank Marshall Davis book and determined unequivocally that they are NOT Stanley Ann Dunham

    And the fools at Gerbil Report have found a way to simultaneously claim this

    (a) is big progress and

    (b) still leaves the possibility that the pictures are of SAD anyway

    Which proves the level of birther lunacy is the cardinality of an inductive set, since for every level n of crazy, there is a time t(n+1) << t(n) when their crazy has reached level n+1.

  105. gorefan says:

    BR is saying that both Zullo and Gallups will be on the Boyles show this Friday October 3rd @ 7:00 am EST.

    This may be interesting.

  106. wrecking ball says:

    gorefan:

    This may be interesting.

    maybe ( few things would brighten my weekend more than hearing a lively clash of birther ego and stupidity ) but……. i fear this will most likely be a semi-orchestrated birther lovefest.

  107. Jim says:

    gorefan: This may be interesting.

    Be even MORE interesting if we could get Doc or RC on the show too! 😀

  108. wrecking ball says:

    The Magic M (not logged in):
    (b) still leaves the possibility that the pictures are of SAD anyway

    yep. for those who haven’t seen it yet the new birther logic is as follows:
    .
    *zullo said that the photos were not of obama’s mother.
    .
    * the photos are of SAD.

    * therefor SAD is not obama’s mother.

  109. wrecking ball says:

    Jim: Be even MORE interesting if we could get Doc or RC on the show too!

    yep. doc, RC or frank arduini would be great and consistent with any broadcaster that was truly interested in representing the truth of a matter. i doubt that boyles meets that criteria.

  110. gorefan says:

    Here it is on Gallups’ Facebook page.

    “BREAKING! Something BIG is about to break in the Boyles, Sellin, Gallups debacle. Stay tuned to PPSIMMONS News and Ministry Network (PPSIMMONS FB) where you will get the news first. We should be able to give details within the next couple of days.”

    PPSIMMONS Staff

    https://www.facebook.com/carlgallups2

  111. Bovril says:

    What….Boyles, Sellin, Gallups debacle….Not Boyles, Sellin, Gallups, Zullo debacle…?

    OMG…WTF Zullo has been Breitbarted….Fuddied…Sandy Hooked….etc etc….It’s there in black and white……

    /exit Birfoon mode

  112. CarlOrcas says:

    Bovril: What….Boyles, Sellin, Gallups debacle….Not Boyles, Sellin, Gallups, Zullo debacle…?

    I love the smell of napalm panic in the morning.

  113. wrecking ball says:

    gorefan:

    “BREAKING! Something BIG is about to break ……

    so, the big BREAKING news is that the big news hasn’t BROKEN?

  114. JPotter says:

    gorefan: within the next couple of days.”

    DAYS?!?!?

    That’s some super slo-mo breakage LOL

  115. Dave says:

    Used to be Gallups was promising big news about the President of the United States.

    Now he’s promising big news about himself and two of his fellow whackjobs.

    gorefan:
    Here it is on Gallups’ Facebook page.

    “BREAKING! Something BIG is about to break in the Boyles, Sellin, Gallups debacle. Stay tuned to PPSIMMONS News and Ministry Network (PPSIMMONS FB) where you will get the news first. We should be able to give details within the next couple of days.”

    PPSIMMONS Staff

    https://www.facebook.com/carlgallups2

  116. gorefan says:

    Dave:
    Used to be Gallups was promising big news about the President of the United States.

    Now he’s promising big news about himself and two of his fellow whackjobs.

    It gets better.

    From Carl Gallups’ Facebook page there was this announcement:

    Carl Gallups shared a link.
    8 hours ago · Edited
    .
    BREAKING! Peter Boyles set to publicly apologize to Gallups and Zullo – this Friday, October 2, 2014 at 10 AM ET. Listen Live on line at KNUS – DENVER website. Boyles has had a lengthy conversation with Mike Zullo by phone.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJ0C0K79Qo&feature=youtu.be

    But there was this exchange in the comments:

    Mark McDaniel I think all three of these guys are patriots—let us all come together now and work together.

    Like · Reply · 1 · 6 hours ago..

    Carl Gallups That would be nice – but that does not seem to be what Carl and Zullo have discovered. Stay tuned. Listen to the show. We will give all the latest info here and at PPSIMMONS FB.

    Like · 3 hours ago

    https://www.facebook.com/carlgallups2

  117. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    gorefan: Carl Gallups That would be nice – but that does not seem to be what Carl and Zullo have discovered. Stay tuned. Listen to the show. We will give all the latest info here and at PPSIMMONS FB.

    How adorable Carl either speaks in the 3rd person or forgot to log into one of his other alias accounts.

  118. gorefan says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: How adorable Carl either speaks in the 3rd person or forgot to log into one of his other alias accounts.

    As I understand it Carl Gallups is not “the” Carl Gallups but a staffer.

  119. Bonsall Obot says:

    Friday is the 3rd.

    Rocket surgeons.

  120. JPotter says:

    Bonsall Obot:
    Friday is the 3rd.

    Rocket surgeons.

    30 Days Hath September

    You don’t even have to be able to count on your fingers to remember that. See?

  121. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    JPotter: 30 Days Hath September

    You don’t even have to be able to count on your fingers to remember that. See?

    Whats that in March days though?

  122. JPotter says:

    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater: Whats that in March days though?

    Apparently still waiting on March 32nd to roll around. Ah, yes, two to the fifth day of the third month, that’s the ticket!

    (Two into the fifths all month long, more likely 😉 )

  123. Notorial Dissent says:

    Now to be fair, he really didn’t say of what year, or century, or…..

  124. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    We even still don’t know which universe is supposed to shatter, either. Not ours, anyway.

  125. Curious George says:

    An excerpt from BR June 26, 2013:

    ” ★FALCON★ 133p · 32 minutes ago “This investigation has been on-going for 22 months. Zullo opened his mouth on the Gallups program and told a lot about the investigation. He owes it to show what he has. This can’t go on forever and people grow tiresome of hearing the same things and no results to shown.”

    It’s been over a year since this was written and now it’s all about nude pictures. That’s progress?

  126. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Curious George:
    An excerpt from BR June 26, 2013:

    ” ★FALCON★ 133p · 32 minutes ago “This investigation has been on-going for 22 months. Zullo opened his mouth on the Gallups program and told a lot about the investigation. He owes it to show what he has. This can’t go on forever and people grow tiresome of hearing the same things and no results to shown.”

    It’s been over a year since this was written and now it’s all about nude pictures.That’s progress?

    Wow, even bird boy is losing his patience with Zullo. If he can’t keep the likes of Falcon strung along, Zullo might as well just hang up his mustache and plastic badge now!

  127. Jim says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Wow, even bird boy is losing his patience with Zullo. If he can’t keep the likes of Falcon strung along, Zullo might as well just hang up his mustache and plastic badge now!

    Considering that the post by Falcon is from over a year ago…I’d say Zullo has been stringing Falcon et al along quite nicely. And Zullo doesn’t even have to say or do anything except tell them to “Trust him”. That’s a sad, sad group of marks Zullo has on a string there.

  128. RanTalbott says:

    Curious George: It’s been over a year since this was written and now it’s all about nude pictures. That’s progress?

    Yes: it means that, even as the burnt-down, fallen-over remains of the BC issue sink into the swamp in a way that can no longer be denied, they’ll still have fresh anti-GoldsteinObama fodder to feed the Two Minutes Hate.

    If Gerbil Report survives, expect the percentage of “Why hasn’t he already nuked ISIS so they can’t come over here and kill us all?” and “Why hasn’t he waved his magic wand and made all the effects of the Bush Crash go away?” articles to increase, so the site looks more like the Western Center for the Debasement of Journalism.

  129. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Jim: Considering that the post by Falcon is from over a year ago…I’d say Zullo has been stringing Falcon et al along quite nicely.And Zullo doesn’t even have to say or do anything except tell them to “Trust him”.That’s a sad, sad group of marks Zullo has on a string there.

    Oh, I somehow missed the 2013 date.
    I guess when faced with the prospect that everything birthers believe is false, they go running back to whomever will foster their fantasies, including those who leave a bad taste in their mouths. Its like some mental version of battered spouse syndrome.

  130. Arthur says:

    Curious George:
    An excerpt from BR June 26, 2013:

    ” ★FALCON★ 133p · 32 minutes ago “This investigation has been on-going for 22 months. Zullo opened his mouth on the Gallups program and told a lot about the investigation. He owes it to show what he has. This can’t go on forever and people grow tiresome of hearing the same things and no results to shown.”

    What’s telling to me is that if you went to Gerbil Report and posted this quote, birthers would be condemning you and calling you names. They can’t stand Obama, but they really hate it when you use their own words against them.

  131. Dave B. says:

    In the birtherverse, it is of no concern.

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Oh, I somehow missed the 2013 date.

  132. JPotter says:

    The Magic M (not logged in):
    We even still don’t know which universe is supposed to shatter, either. Not ours, anyway.

    The universe is a vast place. It may well have shatter right on time, at the speed of light even, but maybe it was only around the edges. If so, we won’t know for billions of years 😛

    Of course, if they want their universe-shattering information to get on with its shattering, they’ll have to reveal said information. Kinda like whatever is in the Ark. It will melt your face all right, but only if it’s revealed to you.

    Maybe I missed the reveal?.

  133. Benji Franklin says:

    Curious George: An excerpt from BR June 26, 2013:

    ” ★FALCON★ 133p · 32 minutes ago “This investigation has been on-going for 22 months. Zullo opened his mouth on the Gallups program and told a lot about the investigation. He owes it to show what he has. This can’t go on forever and people grow tiresome of hearing the same things and no results to shown.”

    Falcon epitomizes the increasing agony the Zullo scam brings to the few Birthers who are above average intelligence, like Bird-boy! You know Bird-boy fully understands Zullo has scammed him, and is ABSOLUTELY DYING in a pit of his own filth where his tough talk and unfulfilled predictions has submerged him and will continue to bury him because he’s too much the coward to admit he was wrong.

    He will end up declaring that Obama committed crimes with no statute of limitation and will eventually be convicted of them, not in our lifetime, but before the next Big Bang. He will then slink away into cyberspace, choose another fowl screen name, and transcend reality by dispatching in his own mind, another enemy of his kind of bird people.

  134. Curious George says:

    Looks like *FALCON* might be eating some CROW!! 🙂

  135. Curious George says:

    FLASH!!!!!! The nude woman pictured and examined by the MCSO experts have also determined that the nude woman is not Marilyn Monroe or Miley Cyrus or Katy Perry.
    Genius, sheer genius!!!! 🙂

  136. Curious George says:

    But, the MCSO will continue it’s visual investimagination.

  137. Jim says:

    Andrew Vrba, PmG: Its like some mental version of battered spouse syndrome.

    I like that. Battered birther syndrome, can Zullo/Gallups be arrested for that? Better get Arpaio on it right away!

  138. roadburner says:

    Arthur: What’s telling to me is that if you went to Gerbil Report and posted this quote, birthers would be condemning you and calling you names. They can’t stand Obama, but they really hate it when you use their own words against them.

    it was posted this morning and lasted about as long as my latest login did after bitchslapping william.

    worth reposting for the entertainment quality though 😀

  139. Crustacean says:

    roadburner: it was posted this morning and lasted about as long as my latest login did after bitchslapping william.

    Watching you spank William has become one of my favorite spectator sports.

  140. Arthur says:

    roadburner: it was posted this morning and lasted about as long as my latest login did after bitchslapping william.

    Thanks for trying. William is a cowardly little fellow. He’s always calling on Obots to respond to his so-called challenges, all the while knowing that if we do, our comments get deleted and accounts suspended. Pity he doesn’t have the courage to engage us here.

  141. wrecking ball says:

    just listened to the interview. unfortunately it was the mutual lovefest that we thought it might be. here’s a couple notes:

    * zullo REALLY likes playing make believe police officer. a few of his quotes:
    ” posse is an acronym for task force”, ” WE in the sheriff’s office…”, “cops do this….” ( referring to something he did ).

    * gallups is physically incapable of being concise.

    * zullo believes that the clintons were the first birthers.

    * zullo blames birthers for his inability to get any congressmen to take him seriously.

    * zullo claims now that they are switching their attention from congress and are now conducting a serious “criminal” investigation.

    * zullo claims that brian reilly slandered him and gallups on boyles show to which boyels simply agrees and never attempts to question zullo on exactly what reilly said that was slanderous ( nice way to throw brian under the bus peter ).

    * gallups makes a big deal out of the fact that there is no “official” plaque or statue commemorating obama’s birth at Kapiolani ( …. never mentioning the fact that only one hospital has a plaque commemorating the birth of a president ).

  142. Dr. Kenneth Noisewater says:

    To further on what Wrecking Ball said.

    * Zullo thinks birthers are ruining their investigation by eliminating jurisdictions with rulings in court.

    * Zullo completely hedged on birther social claims saying because the social wasn’t used in Arizona that it’s outside his jurisdiction. He then went on to say they used MCSO resources and official law enforcement databases and did not come to the conclusion that the social wasn’t Obama’s. He also stated that the databases birthers used are civilian databases and have specific disclaimers in them that the information could be flawed and that no one should rely on them.

    * Boyles didn’t even mention that he previously called Kapiolani hospital and got confirmation.

    * No mention of the race codes which Boyles knew Zullo lied about

    * No hard questions all soft balled. No apology either.

  143. CarlOrcas says:

    wrecking ball: just listened to the interview. unfortunately it was the mutual lovefest that we thought it might be.

    It’s going downhill fast at BR.

    They have now latched on to Ebola as the latest evil deed committed by Obama. A lot of typically sick stuff connected with that one.

    Then there is something about Zullo refocusing on who Obama’s real mother is. That should keep the con going for a long time.

    Several of the more lucid posters note that there was nothing new revealed. Amazing.

  144. wrecking ball says:

    CarlOrcas:
    They have now latched on to Ebola …..

    it’s amazing to see just how completely incapable they are of staying on-topic.

  145. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    wrecking ball: it’s amazing to see just how completely incapable they are of staying on-topic. And what better way to stoke the fires of hatred, than by pinning any and all of our world’s ills on Obama?

    I have a theory. I believe that they change topic so often, because dwelling on the fact that they’ve made literally no progress since this all started, is a very bitter pill to swallow.

  146. They don’t have an open thread.

    wrecking ball: it’s amazing to see just how completely incapable they are of staying on-topic.

  147. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    They don’t have an open thread.

    I doubt the admin there would have the attention span to monitor one, if they did.

  148. wrecking ball says:

    Dr. Conspiracy:
    They don’t have an open thread.

    well, christmas is coming up……. we could all pitch in and get them one ( maybe see if we could bundle it with some sanity ).

  149. Jim says:

    Dr. Conspiracy: They don’t have an open thread.

    Maybe you should start one here for them exclusively…complete with a link at BR so they can easily locate. 😀

  150. Andrew Vrba, PmG says:

    wrecking ball: well, christmas is coming up

    Santa’s face, when he sees Gerbil Report’s name on his list, is that of internet meme “Rage guy”.

  151. Northland10 says:

    wrecking ball: well, christmas is coming up……. we could all pitch in and get them one ( maybe see if we could bundle it with some sanity ).

    It would just wind up in a box on the floor, next to their new server.

  152. wrecking ball says:

    woo-hooo! let the grudge resume.

    i guess the lovefest wasn’t lovey enough for zullo and gallups. zullo went on gallups show today and slammed boyles and sellin ( “a bunch of guys sitting around a table that should be wearing house dresses with their hair up in curlers eating bon-bons”) and brian reilly ( an “agitator” and “internet stalker” who was only given a place on the CCP to get him to quit the board of the surprise tea party ).

    http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/10/full-audio-sheriffs-joe-arpaios-lead.html

    it’s actually a pretty amazing hissy-fit.

  153. gorefan says:

    wrecking ball: it’s actually a pretty amazing hissy-fit.

    Zullo finally admitted that Congressman Stockman is not on board and that the big December, 2012 surprise was that soon-to-be-ex Congressman Joe Walsh was suppose to drop all of Zullo’s stuff on the House of Representatives and demand a Congressional hearing. Zullo says he worked through Christmas and New Years getting it all together and then Walsh didn’t do anything.

  154. The Magic M (not logged in) says:

    wrecking ball: never mentioning the fact that only one hospital has a plaque commemorating the birth of a president

    Or that some Presidents were born at home with a birth certificate based on nothing but the mother’s testimony (and sometimes issued 3 decades after their birth, like Eisenhower’s).

  155. JPotter says:

    wrecking ball: brian reilly ( an “agitator” and “internet stalker” who was only given a place on the CCP to get him to quit the board of the surprise tea party ).

    That’s very creative! Amazing that Gall-OOPS is privy to the inner workings of a TP all the way across the country. Perhaps best-buddy Zoo-low is spending all his time investimagating the Surprise TP—and reporting his lurid findings to Gall-OOPS?—instead of what he is supposedly doing … investigating Obama and reporting to Papa Pie-Hole 😉

  156. JPotter says:

    Northland10: It would just wind up in a box on the floor, next to their new server.

    Dollars to donuts said server is still in the back of the car. Only place it’s safe from “Obots” 😀

  157. John Reilly says:

    The Magic M (not logged in): Or that some Presidents were born at home with a birth certificate based on nothing but the mother’s testimony (and sometimes issued 3 decades after their birth, like Eisenhower’s).

    Most Presidents were born at home. The first President born in a hospital was Jimmy Carter. Pres. Reagan was born at home and his birth certificate was issued in 1942, years after his birth in 1911. No one seemed concerned. As I recall, President Eisenhower’s birth certificate was based upon the testimony of his brother, Milton.

  158. Dave B. says:

    So that’s supposed to make the CCP look…more like a bona fide law enforcement enterprise?

    wrecking ball: and brian reilly ( an “agitator” and “internet stalker” who was only given a place on the CCP to get him to quit the board of the surprise tea party )

  159. Northland10 says:

    gorefan: Zullo finally admitted that Congressman Stockman is not on board and that the big December, 2012 surprise was that soon-to-be-ex Congressman Joe Walsh was suppose to drop all of Zullo’s stuff on the House of Representatives and demand a Congressional hearing.Zullo says he worked through Christmas and New Years getting it all together and then Walsh didn’t do anything.

    Through Christmas and New Years leaves about 2 days before Walsh was done, Jan 2nd from 10:00 to 12:38 and Jan 3rd from 11:00 to 11:56. After that, he was all done. Most of the 2nd was taken up with Hurricane Sandy relief.

    Zullo is truly and idiot.

  160. Also recall that Gallups was supposed to have Rep. Steve Stockman on his show and Gallups claimed Stockman had called from an airport to cancel his appearance on Freedom Friday (he called during the show but Gallups failed to put him on the air). Gallups said Stockman would be rescheduled soon. He kept up the meme that Stockman was “on board” and would be coming on the show for a while. After a few months Stockman was never mentioned again.

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