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The 6th Circuit has affirmed the district court’s decision in Van Irion’s Tennessee ballot challenge. I guess he owes the lawyers for the Democratic Party of Tennessee $10,563.25. Here’s the ruling, via justia.com, dated 9/23/2014
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/12-6634/6012182619
“OPINION filed: For the reasons stated in the district court’s well-reasoned opinions, we AFFIRM, decision not for publication. Danny J. Boggs, Circuit Judge; David W. McKeague, Circuit Judge and William H. Stafford, Senior U.S. District Judge for the Northern District of Florida, sitting by designation.”
Well isn’t that my luck, post a funny on the last open thread and Doc closed it. Guess it wasn’t that funny. đ
The open threads are on a timer and should close automatically at midnight (eastern US time) 2 weeks after they opened. The new open thread is supposed to automatically publish at the same time.
Here’s the joke:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2014/09/the-occasional-open-thread-picking-up-the-pieces/#comment-342287
It was pretty funny.
I knew that…just forgot to check before I posted last night. Hope you enjoyed it! đ
Guess again, Jim! That is an instant classic. Thanks and kudos to you!!
The thing about the original “Who’s on First” routine for me is how Abbott and Costello made it look so easy. Having tried it before, I know it’s not.
“I think Iâm done checking Gerbil Report, until the end of October. Its just so dull now, but surely the days leading up to the mid-terms will be comedy gold.” ~Andrew Vrba PmG
Well Andrew, lucky for you I read Gerbil Report so you don’t have to. Check out this doozy from AmazingGrace6, regarding ebola:
“I think the most humane thing to do is tell people if they come here after lying about exposure to Ebola they will be put in a jail(one we’ve closed that’s isolated) cell with water and bucket with no medical care.”
I don’t want to know what she thinks the inhumane thing to do would be…
The transcript of Orly Taiz testifying in Klayman v. Judicial Watch.
Oh, it was a laugh riot!
From another thread:
Ellen, I don’t post on westernjournalism, but in response to the post by “Pat” on October 8, 2014 at 12:22 am, it is not the case that no other Presidents were known by different names.
Bill Clinton’s birth name was William Jefferson Blythe, Ford’s was Leslie King, Jr. Three others (Cleveland, Wilson, and Coolidge) dropped their given first names (Stephen, Thomas, and John, respectively) and Eisenhower’s first and middle names were switched with each other during his childhood.
OMG usurpers! Interstate Highway system is null and void!! LOL
President Ford was never adopted by his step-father but went through school including college by the name Gerald Ford. He legally changed his name when he was in his 20s.
Leslie King Jr.
Gerald Ford
Jerry Ford
Three aliases.
Hiram Ulysses Grant’s name was botched on his USMA nomination letter by a congressman, and it’s apparently easier to just use the new name than to dispute it.
Yes and Lyndon Baines Johnson was just named Johnson at birth. It took until he was Vice President for him to amend his birth certificate and have a friend act as a witness.
http://www.fold3.com/image/29327271/
Well, if the rumors are true, “Johnson” was all the name he needed.
i missed this claim before ( thanks GR for the regurgitation ):
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/10/shock-doc-fox-news-investigation-shows.html
birthers are an outstanding rebuttal to darwinism.
Larry Klayman’s severed right arm (Judicial Watch) claims ISIS is coming over America’s southern border: http://aattp.org/watch-republican-claims-10-isis-fighters-captured-in-texas-maddow-obliterates-him-video/
Duncan Hunter (Jr) took that info from here (and apparently embellished, turning 4 into 10):
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/10/jw-confirms-4-isis-terrorists-arrested-texas-last-36-hours/
Let’s not forget Ulysses S Grant, born Hiram Ulysses Grant. Does the South get to secede again?
I find it sickeningly fascinating how Conservatives use whatever issue dejure to attack our Southern border issue.(ISIS! Ebola! Teenagers!)
Considering that the only known terrorist who was caught crossing our land border came to the U.S. from Canada…..and that our Northern border has much, much less security than our Southern Border….it is pretty obvious that Conservatives just are abusing security issues for political purposes.
This is a bit off topic but that is what the open thread is for. Recently I was “outed” by lyin’ lucas daniel smith. Outed being a strong word. I suppose my questions to him were too much so he did a passive aggressive hit piece on me, a mere commenter on his blog, which linked to my YouTube channel. I guess he was trying to sic his followers on the non-birther related videos I occasionally post. Pretty sure the resulting 25 extra hits mostly came from one RamboIke.
People here probably know Ike’s style; take quotes out of context or misquote every, and any, body. Ike imagines ike to be an intellectual, when he or she is the definition of anti-intellectual. Ike knows a lot of nothing and loves to show it. Through LLDS’ site ike discovered that I live in South Korea.
Armed with that knowledge, and little else, ike started using Google and Bing translators to make denigrating remarks to me in Korean. What ike doesn’t understand is that computer translator are not reliable, especially for languages as different as Korean and English. Anyone who followed the lunacy of ike’s attempt to take on Lupin’s understanding of French will understand. Ike is an idiot who is not even smart enough to know that he/she is not smart.
As proof I offering the following:
ëĽě 먚ëë¤ ……… ě’ě ëŹě ě¸ę°
This was Ike’s last message to me in Korean. I think he/she is trying to tell me to eat crap and run away. Unfortunately for ike the message actually reads:
I eat sh*t and cry for a month now.
Or it could be:
I eat sh*t and now worry about the moon.
Whatever ike tried to convey failed miserably, but has given me a great anecdote for my fellow expats, Korean friends and family. It has also signaled my sabbatical from birther sites.
I just can’t argue with such ingrained stupidity anymore. I will no longer comment on this non-issue, except in January of 2017, though I do plan on keeping current the birther misadventures here and at thefogbow.
To the birthers: stay ignorant and entertaining.
Sincerely yours,
BobJ/th3bt
It’s always been interesting to me how everything always seems to come back to securing our Southern border to these people. Listen to some of these people and you’d think the only people who ever drove drunk and killed somebody were illegal immigrants.
It turns out the “four ISIS terrorists” were actually anti-ISIS Kurds.
http://news.yahoo.com/four-anti-islamic-state-kurds-arrested-entering-u-215458293.html
Well, with you and me both leaving LDS’s blog, that just leaves, LDS, Bruce, Ike, and LDS’s sock puppets.
Checked out Cody Robert Judy’s blog of craziness. Looks like he is switching gears, and is already going after Cruz.
/offtopic ?? but surely good for some laugh:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/palin-family-fight
Taitz floated that a year ago. And birthers have been taking about it for a few years; nothing new.
Hey European – did you notice you got a name check in Orly’s ebidense to the Larry KKKlayman / JW trial?
Its just another case of “Old news is…all we’ve got really!” One of the reasons Gerbil Report has grown dreadfully dull. Its all a lot of regurgitated articles, poorly done photoshops, name calling, “Any. Day. Now.”, and non-sequitur conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook and other national tragedies.
It’s very clever and funny. Thanks!
oh thereÂ’s extra added drama now, as scott posted naked holiday snaps of his whole family on his flikr site (what a total tube!) and has now had someone threaten (allegedly) to post them on the web generally (as if flikr wasnÂ’t generally enough)
scott is screaming about all the things heÂ’ll do keyboard commando stylee, and the others are mostly giving sympathy.
i suggested he hire larry klayman to help with his plight, as heÂ’s conversant with things involving kids.
not surprisingly, banned again.
i did deserve it that time though ;D
Well Paul Irey says he’s leaving the country tomorrow and gave us a preview of his and Vogt’s latest. Apparently his claim is now that the hashmarks on the security paper are too small:
http://s8.postimg.org/ec7s0qayt/Irey_Obama_BC_2014.jpg
Paul is still big. It’s the hash marks that got small.
And yet bithers have no problem victimizing others with photographs. I genuinely feel bad for the man’s kids though. They have him for a father…Well, and the whole photos thing.
There is no evidence he has kids, nor that photographs were ever made or stolen. Scott has a very rich fantasy life, and nothing he says can be taken at face value.
I’ve been trying to figure out what the hell they were going on about over at BR and I tend to agree that this is a fantasy story. It’s a bit hard to imagine anyone putting photos of their naked children on a photo sharing site . . .
Perhaps this is his exit strategy? “I can’t be a birther any more, because naked pictures!” Doesn’t make a lick of sense, but do birthers ever?
This one just floors me. The birther document expert bases his argument on a complete misunderstanding of how the document is produced.
Odd that Scotty hasn’t posted the threatening email – I wonder why that would be. Any … day … now.
ScottKB1978’s first two comments on his intense debate account seem to allude to these pictures. He had posted some inappropriate family pictures to his Facebook account and his wife punished him for it by taking away his social media privileges for a while.
He may be grounded again.
Wife? Sounds more like his mom.
Somehow the mobile version of Obama Conspiracy Theories got disabled. It’s back on now.
They’re a bit behind Orly, but that’s the way they inevitably will go as birtherism gets less and less interesting even for them. Other conspiracy theories allow for new stuff to enjoy (“look, more photos to analyze!”) and make new crazy friends (as e.g. the Sandy Hookers are much larger in number than birthers, though they have less chances of getting politicians to agree with them; to me another bit of evidence that birtherism has someone powerful pushing it behind the scenes).
It’s even moor bodged up than that.
Li’l Snotty used to (may still) post over at Before Its News (BIN) and Above Top Secret (ATS).
Due to his plain feckwittedness he has had an arch nemesis (or two) who have been on his case from one/other/both sites some years ago who allegedly dug of some nekkid pictures of him from a Flickr site.
Roll forward a few years to today and his arch nemeses are “threatening” to post his pictures somewhere on the InnerTubes.
Naturally Snotty sees that this is all due to Obots getting involved and gets all threaty and litigious. Not quite grasping that posting on the ‘net that he is going to
And, C) I will find them. Personally. In the dark. Night vision. The kind of shit they have nightmares about
would make it a tad problematic when suing various anonymous Internet entities if he is also stalking them with threats of violence IRL.
As usual with the brain trust over at Gerbil Report, this immediately means that Doc C or one or more of the other named Obits is the one who has been doing all the threats to post his shriveled manhood on line and as usual it degenerates into BS Esq re-running one of his sad little copy ‘n paste images they all find so amusing.
Of course anything Snotty says is gospel so we then have Bird Brain Falcon posting a swathe of screen shots from Foggys Face Book page and how he’s going to use a fake FB account to spam all of Foggy contacts with how mean and horrid Foggy is….. Oh and he’s also gonna tell on Foggy to Birdies local DA who has given him his PERSONAL cellphone number
http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/10/listen-live-gmn-founder-discusses.html
Strangely enough when someone tried to post and inform Budgie Breath that cyber stalking and spamming like that is a most probably a crime, the post got mysteriously wiped by the admin….. đ
I appreciated the reply from Factual Observer:
On the birther stalking front, Falcon has posted an image at Gerbil Report that he claims is an array of Bill Bryan’s friends on Facebook. (And it probably is)
I appreciate your summation. I tried going over to G.R., but there is so much Sandy Hook conspiracy b.s. that I felt like I was being infected with Ebola.
No exaggeration, no hyperbole, BS Esq believes literally EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, how the man gets up in the morning without hysterically screaming sunshine is a plot I do not know.
So theoretically, he could be tricked into asphyxiating himself, by simply convincing him that the air has been enriched with fluoride, then…
That’s a special kind of deranged though. If everything is a conspiracy, what makes him think anything can be changed? Why should he even bother?
Sunshine = ILLUMINATUS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw
Yeah, I think you’re right. I wonder if there are birthers anymore who still adhere to the pseudo-legal arguments against Obama, or whether they’re all just nut-jobs who think that everything they fear, and everything they don’t like or don’t understand, is a conspiracy?
Conspiracy nuts run on the premise that the conspirators (those who are really in control and not just following along) are a very small group. It’s part of their belief that if only they got in positions of power, they could remake the world in their own image (might call that a God complex). So obviously they believe if only those select few are ousted, “good” people could take their place.
Which, of course, contradicts the “Every judge and congressman is complicit!” conspiracy theory. But, as birthers have shown us time and time again, consistency is concept that completely eludes them.
Of course! It all fits!
…. the Mgt.
and latelyb bird-boy is leaping on the sandy hook, etc, bandwagon alongside BS esq.
guess when he sees his favourite conspiracy going nowhere, he needs something else to cling to.
Bird Brain is a weak minded, gullible feckwit who warms himself with his hatred and self loathing.
Conspiracy theories that allow him to scream and vent bile and spittle about the n*gger ion the White House make him as happy as his sad, distorted black little would will allow.
No, it doesn’t. While the nuts believe many people are complicit, they also believe the ones who are actually in control (and not just paid/threatened/… to play along) are hardly more than a handful. Again that ties in with the belief that there are no uncontrollable events *and* it only takes a small group of people to control everything, from natural disasters to the economy.
Has anyone heard anything from or any updates about this years most epic fail, Jedi Pauly Guthrie and his arrest by the UK immigration authorities for full metal birthing..?
last heard of entering a psych ward after shrimpton visited and told him…
`pauly….i am your father!Â’
I think he’s suffering from assification of the brain. For example, instead of saying “Facebook” he says “Assbook.”
He’s mad at Facebook because so many people have unfriended him
Doc, where did the quote of the day come from? Brian Reilly I presume. But is it published online somewhere?
Anyone got any guesses about why the “preview” pic for this Gerbil report video, entitled “Gillar Speaks: Sheriff Arpaio’s Lead Obama Investigator Unloads; CDC Confirmed 9 Race Code”, is a frame taken from Lloyd Bridges’ glue-sniffing scene in “Airplane!”? (look at the “recommended” list on the right: GR put it in both their channels, and its twin has the same picture)
[Image added. Doc.]
Are they trying to start another civil war by dissing Gillar and the Corporal? Or did someone on their staff need to get fired so he could collect unemployment insurance? đ
Way off topic, but there’s a Kevin Davidson in trouble with the Oakland Athletic League for his transfer from an upper middle class suburban school to a school in Oakland known for its athletics (but not academics). Someone claims the family is still living in their old home and apparently his siblings are still going to school in the suburban community. He’s been suspended from the football team pending an investigation.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Complaint-blows-whistle-on-QB-s-5820302.php
Nothing in this story is remotely relevant to the typical subjects, but I though of this site when I heard his name.
Search for the name on Facebook sometime. The list is very long.
It was from an email Zullo sent someone, copying Reilly.
He had friends? đŻ
Back when he still went by his birth name, Sylvester Quimm, he had lots of friends. But after the ghost of J. Edgar Hoover convinced him to become America’s top anti-Communist sekrit agent, lowly Sylvester Quimm became . . . THE FALCON. The NSA hacked into F.B. and un-friended Sylvester’s acquaintances to protect their most valuable asset’s identity, but he’s always resented it.
I seem to be stuck in the mobile version now. How do I make it stop?
There appears to be some incompatibility between the current version of the mobile theme (WPTouch) and the site’s caching program, WP Super Cache. They both have settings that recognize each other, but it’s not working. Once a version gets cached, it continues to be served, regardless of your choice of themes.
For now, I have disabled the cache, which should slow things down in general. Perhaps another caching solution would work better.
Meanwhile, back at Gerbil Report Ranch, an important discussion is taking place.
Birfer 1: What’s it gonna take to get Obongo-bongo out of the White Hut??
Birfer 2: I know, huh? That mulatto is destroying ‘Murrica by importing the Wetback Flu! What we need is a good lynchin’!!
Guest: Wow. Racist much?
Birfer 1: Oh, here we go again. Libtards love that race card. It’s an addiction, kinda like hows they’s gotsta have da purple drank, yo! Ever notice it’s always the stupid Obots who bring up race? We NEVER do!!
Birfer 2: Yeah, I have a black friend. Game-set-match, Obot!
So did Pest and E-fail lose interest in old Walt? I just browsed the front page headlines, and its just random articles.
Wish I could find the old Jeff Foxworthy takeoff I wrote years ago
“If you think a used car salesman playing cop is more reliable than the State of Hawaii, yew might be a birther.”
I think I had about 30-40 of them.
And cue Orly “evidence of false identity” in 3-2-1:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/10/17/president-obamas-credit-card-was-rejected-last-month/?hpid=z3
Thanks for letting me know. I tried clearing my cache and cookies on Chrome to no avail, although I still get the full version if I use Safari. Is there any way to put a button on the page to switch to the mobile version or vice versa?
There is a button on the bottom of the page to switch themes, presuming there is not something preventing your seeing it.
Don’t know why, but I don’t see a button on either Safari or Chrome.
Oh well…
You only see a button on a mobile device:
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I can add to the list.
You might also look at the cookies from this site and if you see something like “mobile,” change it to “desktop.”
I was just researching a great quote from Abraham Lincoln:
Turns out it was in a letter to the editor, a Mr. Ford, editor of the Lacon Illinois Gazette in Marshall County in 1846 referring to rumors of his ‘scoffing at Christianity’.
I like that quote, and am of the firm opinion that it applies to many people who we call birthers, but even more so to the charlatons that egg them on. Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly (who had a book ghostwritten about Lincoln) are absolute past masters.
Anyway, during the research, I came up with interesting citation in a book titled “Brain Fiction: Self-deception and the Riddle of Confabulation” by William Hirstein (MIT Press).
Great word that, “Confabulation”. I had to look it up to formalize my internal defintion; so from Wikipedia:
I note, and you can take this for what it is worth, Korsakoff’s syndrome is linked to chronic alcohol abuse or severe malnutrition, or both.
So, the question is, is the birther statement “we were all taught that you had to have TWO citizen parents in order to be NBC” a confabulation or a lie?
Depends on the birther. đ
Many probably interpreted the definition as somehow excluding uppity darkies or people who once saw the Queen on TV, so they try to make the facts fit their memory.
The “We wuz taught” probably started off with one or two folks who may well have believed that was what they were taught “back in the day”. I make no assertions that this may well have been part of some more nuanced race based “lesson” they were taught……..
The matter then, via the miracles of the InnerTubes, became first a wide spread albeit relatively limited in number assertion then an article of faith for a very specific set of people with a very specific belief system.
It feeds directly into appeal to (imaginary) authority, bolstered their personal world view, supports individual prejudice and layers a veil of faux legality that confirms dammit that dusky hued “others” can’t be true blue WASP’y ‘Murkans
It’s an article of personal faith and no more to be questioned than the mystery of transubstantiation (Mystery in this case meaning the transformation passing understanding via the power of God, not Agatha Christie)
Once embedded in the weltanschauung of the Birfoon it ain’t gonna shift for do so would mean that the Democratic Party darkie in their White House is legitimate and that cannot be, it’s the first tenet of the Church of Birfing.
My personal understanding growing up was that any kid born in America could grow up to be president. I got this most likely from an educational program on TV. I do not recall ever being taught this in school or discussing it with my parents.
both my parents were resident aliens ( i was born in the US ) so i used to challenge my teachers every time we studied the presidency over my eligibility. i never had a teacher say i was ineligible.
My recollection is that Will Rogers said that growing up he was taught that anyone could grow up to be President. It wasn’t until Warren Harding was elected that he realized how true that was.
Doc,
It’s interesting that, even though you can’t remember how you learned it (nor can I), you can nonetheless find innumerable (not literally at least aleph-null, as that would be impossible, but lots) sources for that information while the birthers cannot find any plausible sources for their confabulation. Still, they cannot give it up because to do so would, as bovril pointed out, violate the first tenet of birtherism. Anything else is negotiable, as long as they stay true to this.
I got you beat…I grew up in a college town and went to grade school right near campus. We used to get a lot of foreign students whose parents were visiting instructors and such at the UofI. We had a pair of girls from India, one who was eligible and one who wasn’t. The older girl was born in the US while her father was going to school here, the other was born in India. Guess which one was eligible? đ
We had a UI law professor come in and he pointed out why one was eligible and one wasn’t…nothing at all to do with the citizenship of their parents.
This explains EVERYTHING!:
http://www.goldstar.com/events/san-francisco-ca/san-francisco-magic-parlors-magical-tales-of-san-francisco-storytelling-magic
[H/t: Loren.]
Well Doc, that cross country jaunt is a bit theatrical, don’t you think?
Maybe of passing interest — there’s a story resurfacing, in This Time of Ebola, about how the Reagan Administration handled the AIDS epidemic (spoiler: very badly), and noting that the first time it came up in a Reagan press conference, it was greeted with laughter, ridicule and jokes (13 laughter points).
The “passing interest” part to me is who the reporter is that first brought it up — a familiar name, which some of you may have already guessed.
http://www.theeverlastinggopstoppers.com/2014/10/time-reagan-white-house-press-briefing-erupted-laughter-aids-13-times/
Sorry, the only reporters name in the article is ‘Lester’. Lester who?
Les Kinsolving?
It seems to be the case that when misfortune affects “the other,” it’s a laughing matter.
I think it’s almost certainly Kinsolving. (I’d say, “Sorry; didn’t mean to be so cryptic,” but my wife would laugh right in my face.)
A White House reporter named Lester from that time, bringing up a [then]-fringe-y issue and being openly mocked for it? It has to be him.
From dredging through the last few weeks of Taitz’s blog it is clear that she has now decided her case in Texas is all about ebola. She mentions her case frequently but it is now the ebola travel ban case. Last time she mentioned illegal aliens was over a week ago.
She began this case doing two uncharacteristically not-stupid things: 1) she forum-shopped her way to a most sympathetic federal judge on the subjects of illegal aliens and enforcement of our border with Mexico, and 2) she ditched the birther arguments.
Now she has decided her case is about ebola, which has nothing to do with either illegal aliens or border enforcement. The judge suggested she focus her complaint, but instead she has changed the subject. I wonder if she will really take this tack at hearing next week (which she constantly refers to as the ebola travel ban hearing).
Orly thinks 1000 views on an internet video, is brag-worthy!
That’s just adorable.
About this Ebola case, I wonder if this is going to be the soft-reboot that Orly has been no doubt looking for.
Yes it is.
http://www2.citypaper.com/news/story.asp?id=11089
Nope! Chuck Testa.
no its becky
“Comedy is tragedy plus time.”
They just skipped the ‘time’ part.
Wingnuts weren’t afraid of AIDS because they weren’t doing the gay, except in their fantasies. However there’s just too many African-looking Muricans who might give them the Ebola by saying hello or blessing their food in Allah’s name, or something.
Spoiler: 50,000 HIV infections per year in the US, compared to 2 Ebola infections so far. But then again wingnuts would go after the gays (and all the other sinners who sinned so badly that God gave them AIDS in the womb) right after they’re finished with the ‘Fricans.
My favorite example of birther logic, is how they say Obama is a “radical Muslim”, but when its pointed out to them that he does things which Muslims are expressly forbidden from doing, they go all “Well he’s a secret Muslim! When you’re a secret Muslim, you’re supposed to do that stuff, so no one thinks your a Muslim!”
I’ve gotten that myself.
My favorite example of birther logic is the discussions I had years ago with a poster who called himself naturalizedcitizen. This was during my “let the birther talk and hang himself” phase. Once I got him to admit that the President did the smartest and most efficient method to get his short form BC to the public by posting on the web. Another time I got him to admit that Perkins v Elg that he brought up was actually more helpful to the President than to NC. Then, when he would inevitably come back and act like he hadn’t admitted those things at all, I would show him his exact postings. Ah yes, the good old days when birthers were just basically a circle-jerk going around and around and getting nowhere. Now they’re just a fading fad in leisure suits…to be pointed to and laughed at.
I don’t think I’m stretching the truth at all when I say birtherism is dead. Their original goals are now no longer attainable, and they have no way to convince Congress to impeach him for this. (Heck, Congress is having a hard time finding a lawyer willing to put his reputation on the line suing the President.) All we’re left with are ego-deficient lawyers and keyboard warriors…none of which has accomplished anything in this whole time. Now we have the latest spin-off
Birtherism the Sequel
Complete with a shrinking cast of characters trying to figure out what to do with themselves now that their attempts to remove the President have been a complete failure. Next week, Falcon spits into the wind with predictable results…then blames the President for causing wind.
Gee, my broken irony meter video has over 200.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmC670JsTDw
They never had a chance to start with, but not for the reasons they think.