Birther Report says that they have banned me. They say it is because I outed a commenter there, three weeks ago. I think this is just an excuse and the real reason is that I have been commenting there a good bit recently, and I make them look bad.
I had known the identity of drdebdrdeb for months (ask RC or Foggy), but I bit my tongue as she taunted me about NOT knowing her identity. I don’t out people. But then she attacked my grammar, and in an attempt at a tit-for-tat response, I paged through her comments looking for grammar errors and there it was, plain as the nose on her anonymous face, all of her personal information dumped in one of her own comments. I could hardly believe she had done it, and having done it, left it for a week. She didn’t see it. I guess no one told her about it. My unspoken identification was vindicated and drdebdrdeb’s lie exposed.
Drdebdrdeb deleted her Intense Debate account after that (an action that only deletes the user name, not the comments). I kept a copy of what she’d said (with the lies here highlighted):
Yes I possess a PhD and no I am not the PhD your “research” has discovered me to be.
I use TOR (sic) and thus you have no earthly idea who I am or where on this planet I actually live.
Good luck discovering who I am. Do you really think my name is Deb? (a screen name that looks good with Dr)
I realize that you are employed by this takeover Communist regime. Thus, I shall not engage you any longer in conversation. To do shall so might provide DARPA with an IP address to track me. 1
Yes I am livid and buggered out that YOU steal credentials from those who have earned them. The fact that you STEAL a title2 that YOU have not earned proves that YOU are an Internet FRAUD just like the the man? you LOVE, BARRY SOETORO.
But I didn’t directly out her the FIRST time. I just linked to her comment, saying:
Yes, your name is Deborah. I’ve known this for months. For someone with a PhD, you are really not very smart.
http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/10/dig-hispanic…
Don’t bother deleting the comment. It’s too late.
She then doubled down (not having followed the link, which is a bit of a challenge at Birther Report), and I found it necessary to provide her with a screen grab3:
And that was the outing of Dr. Deb.
I appreciated a comment in response to the article from “Joe Mannix”:
Amen brother BR. Respecting anonymity is paramount in this pessimistic NSA world.
That’s why Sheriff Arpaio and the CCP gladly accept anonymous tips, even from obots, with absolutely no identification required.
That’s why so-called “birthers” don’t obsess over the identity of obots like RC.
That’s why Mr. Nelson doesn’t share IP addresses from visitors to his website with any old bird.
Let’s pray we never stoop to their level brothers.
A new commenter at BR, boomerbabe, signs her comments “Deb” and uses the same Intense Debate username as drdebdrdeb. You may draw your own conclusions.
I myself was outed three times. First in early 2009 by a commenter at Orly’s web site (I originally registered obamaconspiracy.org under my real name), second by Tracy Fair, and finally by Jerome Corsi in an article at WND. BTW, Dr. Deb had also registered a few domains under her real name and using the same email address she uses with Intense Debate. That made it relatively easy to link information together and to ensure no mistake was made.
As of this date some level of information, at least an email address, is known for 494 screen names at Birther Report. This excludes the 100 or more aliases of Julio Schwartz (not a real name). If Obots were really in the doxing game, BR would have something real to complain about.
If you want to remain anonymous, for goodness sakes, don’t use the same email address on an anonymous blog comment that you use for other things associated with your real name. To do so assumes that the web site isn’t going to get hacked, that the site operator won’t maliciously or carelessly reveal the information, and that web site’s commenting system has a good security model.
1The Tor browser would have obscured the IP address.
3Apparently she had used the email reply function of Intense Debate to post the comment, leaving her email tag line in place. I didn’t figure this out immediately.
Startling Headlines of 2015:
Vatican Reveals that Pope Is Catholic
Research Confirms It: Bears Poop in Woods
Birther Discovered to Be a Liar
By the way, it seems pretty apparent that the Dr. Deb incident wasn’t the real reason you were banned, for two reasons:
1) Three weeks (the amount of time since the Dr. Deb incident) is an eternity for a web site that posts new articles daily.
And 2) They also (simultaneously, as far as I can see, or at least within a day or so) banned RanTalbott, who was also making sense over there.
So it appears we also have a further birther lie, which is giving a false reason as to why you were banned.
I had noticed over the last week that both new ID accounts, which previously would post without going into’ moderation’ were suddenly being held as well as a swathe of innocuous ‘Guest’ posts that were being deleted.
This led me to believe that my previous thesis that there were a minimum of 2 ‘moderators’ with very different tolerance levels had been likely AND the more moderate one/s were either being instructed on the RIGHT way to censor OR they were no longer being permitted to ‘moderate’.
This ties in with both the rather abrupt restart of deletion of posted info as well as the wholly infantile “WE CENSOR ‘CAUSE YOU SCARE US” model.
It will be interesting to watch the posting numbers over the next week or so. I am willing to bet the post count will be dropping noticeably now te Buffoons no longer have evil obots to ails against…
pretty pathetic excuse there from bob, and kind of ironic when they have been trying hard to out RC!
it’s basically they’ve been bitchslapped all over own blog, and really can’t take it.
still, as they themselves say `if you’re taking flak, etc’
i used to post there as e.p.lovejoy with a number after indicating how many times i’d been blocked, but none of them ever got the irony 😀
I stopped posting there too. R*tf*cking stops being fun when it’s like shooting whales in a barrel.
And it’s true they can’t take it. You almost feel the spittle through the screen.
Isn’t it ironic that the Gerbils talk about the First Amendment (which is not applicable to private endeavors) in a post about censoring a poster?
No more ironic than the fact that they talk about God and the truth while promoting endless falsehoods, than that they talk about freedom while wishing for tyranny, than that they talk about integrity while supporting con men, or that they talk about the Founding Fathers and the Constitution while misrepresenting what those Founding Fathers said and hoping for a day when those who disagree with them can be taken out back, stripped of their Constitutional rights, and shot.
My last post there was at about this time Monday morning. I got a reply notification from ID about 1400 east coast time. I saw it a couple of hours later, and went to respond, but my post (and 9 others in the same thread, apparently) was gone. And an attempt to post another reply got an immediate “deleted by admin” message. So it probably happened in that 2-hour window.
Yeah, but probably not “dramatically”: a bunch of them have convinced themselves that A/Z Day has arrived, and they’ll be busily sifting through the Zullo tapes, arguing over which parts are the Universe-Shattering Evidence™, and who gets frogmarched first. That’ll keep them busy for a while. Then there’ll be a flurry after the closing arguments in the contempt case.
It might’ve been a mistake for BR to announce the bans: it’s possible they would have gotten more revenue out of the birfoons back-slapping each other for having driven us off with their powerful arguments 😉
I found it more interesting that they ended their article with a completely irrelevant image of the John Jay letter, perhaps silently celebrating the fact that I wouldn’t have the chance to say that it didn’t mean what they claimed it did. It was like they couldn’t wait even for the next article to start saying things I wouldn’t be allowed to respond to..
Recently the gerbils were claiming that RC had run away, when in fact he had been banned some months back. Nelson’s article about banning for doxing but not for point of view should make it harder for him to ban other obots in the future, at least it would be more difficult for a reasonable and fair-minded person.
At the risk of pointing out the obvious, a reasonable and fair-minded person would not be running “Birther Report” in the first place.
And filed under “completely clueless” is that fact that the comment in which Dr. Deb outed herself is STILL at BR:
http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/10/dig-hispanic-trump-superfan-goes.html#IDComment999044491
Hey Doc did you actually call that number. Alot “junk” gets posted on BR in the comments. Even if was posted by “Deb” is it at all accurate? Can you actually prove with other data (Outside BR) that “Deb” information is actually accurate. Is there really a Deb Curlette who lives at Lake Nottely in the Blue Ridge Mountains at that phone number. Let’s see the proof. It’s kind of like RC being “Randy Daniels” He says he’s Randy Daniels but I haven’t been able to prove that there really a “Randy Daniels” who is behind an RC.
Blue Ridge mountains? Isn’t that not too far the North Carolina. A short drive to Lake Nottely might prove your theory. It’s the same with Sharon Rondeau. She only lives about 15 miles from were Professor Richard Rockwell teaches. The theory that RC is Rockwell can easily be proven or disproven by Sharon.
It’s an interesting question, how to make sure an identification is correct. Some of my opinions on that question are informed by the fact that I have gotten them wrong in the past.
A criterion that I use is to assign high confidence to a match that is arrived at by two totally independent sources. Another is when a predicted piece of information turns up (like the furniture business in Falcon’s family). In this case the identification Dr. Deb dumped matches what I had figured out already except for the phone number, which is easily explained by having two numbers (as I do) or a change. The area code was the same.
There are also LinkedIn accounts and a Facebook page.
No, I didn’t call Dr. Deb’s number (i expect that would be an exceedingly unpleasant call).
Accuracy is confirmed by Dr. Deb deleting her Intense Debate identity immediately after my comment. If the information were an intentional ruse to set up a false identity, then there is no reason to try to cover it up.
Feck off John there’s a good chap
Doc basically answerd this in the header of the post
Yes, it looks like a Deb Curlette who is PHD does exist. It looks like she lives in Georgia. However, you provided no evidence the poster on BR is actually this person. It may a assumed Identity. Kind of like same trick RC has pulled claiming to be Randy Daniels or Richard Rockwell when he may not be. The fact that she deleted the comment is mere coincidence and is not proof.
Can you actually tie evidence from BR that actually ties it to the real person Deb Curlette Other than Oh! She deleted the comment…ergo…I must be right.
Tell you what John,
You prove you’re not a computer autoscripting response engine masquerading as a misogynistic, racist, intellectually sub-par monkey and I’m sure Doc C will jump to your demands.
What do you say…..?
Right no, crazy yes.
You mean like how it’s a coincidence that every time you’re asked a direct question you ignore it and abandon the thread?
Well obviously I can because I arrived at her identity before she inadvertently revealed it. That is a “tie.” I am not prepared to fully disclose the mechanisms that I use in identifying BR commenters at this time; however, there will be an article published about this subject in 2017, at the close of the blog.
john, let me help you out here…
for the low, low price of $250,000 I can hire you a computer genius that can prove that, although your intelligence is that of a sub-par monkey, you are not an auto-response. For an added bonus he will also prove your BC is authentic, your wife is fooling around on you, and wipe out any parking or speeding tickets you may have in Maricopa County (he went ahead and hacked their system while he was working with them). I can also provide glowing law enforcement references from a county sheriff and a make-believe detective that stands by his work.
Please send $250,000 in unmarked tens and twenties to Doc, care of this site, and I’ll get the ball rolling for you john.
http://www.keenumber.com/?phone=4046641328
Now feck off john there’s a good chap.
I realize that johnnie may not be competent enough to do a simple search and verify for himself that the address returned by the phone-number search is, in fact, on Lake Nottely in the Blue Ridge Mountains, so here, johnnie, let me complete another few steps for you.
1) The address returned by the phone number makes it clear that the phone number is for “Deborah Curlette.”
“Deb” is a short form for “Deborah:”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie
2) The address returned by the phone number search is on “Nottely Lake:”
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Falcon+Dr,+Blairsville,+GA+30512/@34.9210464,-84.0864135,13z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x885f1a127418169b:0xf6da66e634160153
3) “Nottely Lake” is exactly the same thing as “Lake Nottely:”
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Nottely+Lake,+Georgia+30512/@34.9185796,-84.0729067,14z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x885f1a68a7639af3:0x983d416a602483f9
4) Lake Nottely is in the Blue Ridge Mountains:
http://escapetoblueridge.com/activities/areas.php
5) For bonus points: Whitepages.com also turns up a “Deborah S Curlette” at the exact same address, albeit with a different phone number. This is not uncommon, since many people (myself included) have both a land line and a cell phone. (The afore-mentioned number is a cell phone number with Verizon.)
http://www.whitepages.com/phone/1-706-835-2670
So there you have proof from outside sources that “there really a Deb Curlette who lives at Lake Nottely in the Blue Ridge Mountains at that phone number.”
Some of the above links may require reading and/or zooming in and out of the maps. The entire process of arriving at the correct conclusion may also require linking concepts together. If this is too difficult for you, john, maybe you can get your mom to help you with the project.
I’ve been “outed” by birthers at least four times since 2009 — by Orly Taitz, Tracy Fair and Sharon Rondeau. They seem to take great pride in that. It’s what passes as a major accomplishment in their lives.
Ha! Doc. He’s like Mike Zullo. I’ve got the evidence….but I can’t tell what it is or how I got it.
Unlike Mike Zullo, who promised “universe-shattering” evidence that only appeared under duress from a federal court and turned out to be bullsh*t, I think you can count on the fact that in 2017, at the close of the blog, Kevin Davidson will disclose the mechanisms he used to identify BR commenters.
You ought to be glad that Kevin (unlike birthers) is respecting the privacy of individuals he’s identified.
Incidentally, I wouldn’t be surprised if he knows exactly who you are and where you live. Not that he’s the type of person to do anything with the information.
Now FOJTAGC.
Does that mean in 2017, we will provide the means in which birthers may finally be able to out RC. (Randy Daniels). You know some birthers would love to know his real identity. I do know that the owner of BR has tapped RC’s IP from being from Ohio and other evidence has him in MA.
When it comes to computer expertise – hell, what am I saying? – when it comes to expertise of any sort – I think the “Obots” have it rather decisively over the birther crowd.
There are some birthers out there who very techno savy that could probably figure out who RC but they havn’t dedicated any time to it. They are too interested in NBC arguments.
You have to love it when Birthers think IP Address locations are significant.
Hey John, I’m Posting from Pakistan now.
Now I’m posting from Sweden.
Now I’m posting from Canada
Now I’m Posting from Seattle
I’m sure Kevin will answer that for you, but I seriously doubt it.
I doubt that most obots are exposed to whatever means Kevin has used to identify birthers. Alternately, it may be possible that Kevin is exploiting means to identify both birthers and obots that only he has access to. Or both.
Lets hope they are more “Tech Savvy” than you are…. and more than they are about Constitutional Law.
RC already knows who I am and where I live. I have volunteered that information. If Rc knows, you can bet Doc knows too.
John, still waiting on proof you are not a poorly debugged auto response program
Until then, FOJTAGC
And that’s what scares me about birthers: they are filled with impotent rage and are looking to take that rage out on someone. Disrupting Georgetown JD’s, Doc’s, RC’s, Foggy’s, etc. lives won’t remove President Obama from the White House.
* * *
Other than Montgomery. And every birther claiming that RC is Daniels or that professor.
They are onanistically repeating to each other “arguments” that have failed in the reality-based world.
I don’t think the word “probable” has any meaning in your sentence.
It doesn’t matter now technically savvy one is. Identifying someone online (especially without a court order) is next to impossible if they are being careful not to drop clues. RC has been careful, more so than I would have been.
I didn’t have to try to find that. How’s the job search going?
Very techno savy?(sic) Do they look like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMh8V04s7Ts
And both are incorrect. So the owner of BR proves he’s just as big of an idiot as you are.
I may know your name and roughly where you live but it is of no consequence to me. You might was well be named John Smith as far as I am concerned. You are just another Birther but one who at least at times has demonstrated some honesty. You haven’t demonstrated the violent level of hate that some Birthers like Falcon and Charlesmountain have. I would consider them to be dangerous to themselves and society if they believe much what they write.
I think your problem is that your point of view has been skewed by being fed a daily dose of lies and misinformation from the sources of information you have chosen.
If you knew my name it would be of no help. I don’t work for any political organization or branch of the government nor ever have. My views on Birthers and politics were formed over the years based on a broad spectrum of information. My views have evolved over the years. When I was in high school I supported the US being in Vietnam. As I learned more I came to understand it was a hopeless cause.
I don’t know where you live.
Aw, I wouldn’t let them know of misses. One day they might somehow get lucky.
Probably not, as long as RC doesn’t want to be found. But still…
This is so easy that even you can do it.
Call Directory Assistance for Blairsville, GA. Deb Curlette has a listed phone number on Falcon Drive in Blairsville. Falcon Drive is on a section of Lake Nottely called Morgan Bend.
Her number with the 404 prefix is a cell phone.
There you have it, john.
I’m sure others that know RC can testify that he’s telling the truth.
So now you know exactly who RC is. He’s Joe Eubanks. He’s Tom Croft. He’s William Davis. Bob Murphy.
Heck, maybe he’s Rob Carlson or Rick Cohen or Reggie Clark.
The point is, not only is he no one whose name you would recognize, he doesn’t work for the government or any political organization and never has.
In short, he’s just an American like you or me. You can put in any name you like, and it just won’t matter.
And no, I don’t work for the government or any political party either.
By the way, I can’t imagine why anyone here would really care very much about what your real name is or where you live. It’s not like anyone could do anything with the information, except maybe meet you for a beer somewhere if they lived close by and see whether you come across as unfavorably in person as you too often do online.
If they wanted to find exactly where I am, they would have some difficulty. I could post with one IP address and then, the next post would have a different one. Things like that happen when you are on a moving train.
Then, of course, there is various posts from Michigan, Montana, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota,…
I only vacation in states starting with M.
If you revealed your name, I would be disappointed. The birthers obsession with your identity is highly entertaining. You have quite the lovely rent-live free living space in John’s brain.
Due to a lot of traveling I do, I have posted from at least…
USA (FL, PA, NY, NJ, TX, CT, NC, GA, CA)
Canada (Calgary, Ontario)
Great Britain (London, Edinburgh, Manchester, Birmingham (England not AL), )
France (Paris and Normandy)
Germany (Frankfurt, Munich)
Austria (Vienna)
Spain (Barcelona)
Cyprus (Akrotiri, Pathos and Limassol)
Greece (Athens, Crete and Thessalonika)
Abu Dhabi
Dubai
Moscow
Bombay
Bangalore
Chennai
New Delhi
Singapore
Brunei
Malaysia
Australia (Melbourne, Sydney)
Jakarta
Brazil (Sao Paulo, Rio)
Peru (Lima)
Bahrain
I think that PROBABLY covers it, apart from periodic uses of TOR and a swathe of VPN’s I also use.
So, John, think your imaginary Birther Techno Wizards will be able to track me..?
FOJTAGC
Dr Deb:
Just to note that an irony meter exploded somewhere, when she wrote that.
She’s “livid and buggered out” that you’re a “FRAUD” for using a handle on the internet that, to anyone with half a brain, is obviously non-literal and tongue in cheek?
In the exact same post in which she flat-out LIES about her own identity? (something, I might note, that Kevin Davidson has apparently NEVER done?)
I wonder whether she’s equally as livid about Dr Who? Dr Dre?
I’ll bet she boycotts all the stores that rent out the Rug Doctor.
And the inspiration for for Dr. Conspiracy, Dr. Science, who like me, has a master’s degree — in SCIENCE!
Frankly, I don’t think that “Birther Techno Wizards” could connect your comments here to your identity at the Fogbow if you told them it was “everalm”, but I’m sure they could come up with hundreds of completely implausible theories based on… well, they don’t really need anything to base their theories on, do they?
By the way, I got some use out of your challenge to Laity on the Snowden thread at the Fogbow. Thanks. You might find it interesting.
FOJTAGC
too bad you got banned, i know the feeling. hey speaking of ph. d.’s who is Slartibartfast ??
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/obama-birth-certificate-no-one-is-talking-about-it.434348/page-8
Schrödinger’s Reality Check? 😉
Well, in this case if you open the box, you’ll find a name, but the name won’t make any difference.
Marvin Smith. Chuck Russell.
At least with Schrödinger’s cat, if you open the box something meaningful happens.
You see an undead kitty! *nods to himself*
Well… something meaningful is found to have happened anyway.
He left his name in a comment around here here somewhere.
Scott,
That would be me.
The original exchange between you and I at Woodman’s site is below. I had stated that there was a 0% chance that the LFBC was a forgery and said that that was empirically true (for any reasonable definition of the word “forgery”—certainly the legal one). I tried to explain to you that the official records of the State of Hawai’i are data in their computers, not the supporting documents for those records (which the DoH is also in possession of—I was in no way implying the conclusion you jumped to in your ignorance).
Due to your willful ignorance and cargo-cult level of understanding you didn’t have a clue about what I was saying back then nor have you gotten any better today (assuming you are “washamericom”). Anyone who believes that the LFBC was a forgery (i.e. was not a physical document produced by the Hawai’i DoH) proves nothing more than their own ignorance and foolishness.
He’s the guy that designed the coast of Norway – he got awards for the fjords.
Which is why the Norwegian Blue pines for them so plaintively.
Not to mention Dr. J, Doc Gooden, Doc Rivers, Doc Severinsen, Doc Watson, etc.
I agree. I have had a private conversation with RC and have exchanged e-mails with him, but I haven’t asked him for his name. I would hate to accidentally blurt it out and ruin the fun of driving birthers crazy.
To be fair, the Doctor claimed to have something like seventeen doctorates.
The copy in the article scores 73.9 in the Flesch Reading Ease test, which is considered fairly easy to read.
Foggy, who was allowed to post for a while (dogged by spam videos from charlesmountain), has now been banned at BR.
For what it’s worth, I think BirtherReport has been banned by the “Before It’s News” website. Probably several others as well.
Don’t hold me to that though. It might just be that they don’t want to share with BIN although I doubt that this is true. BR wants maximum exposure as do we all.
BIN knows that BR refuses to allow me and many others to post.
Remember, if exposed, this one will absolutely go down in the history books.
My name is Nancy Ruth Owens and I forged Obama’s birth certificates for the Medellin Cartel in 1985.
http://iforgedobamasbirthcertificates.weebly.com/
The last article at Before It’s News from Birther Report was on December 9, 2014, and the headline was:
“Programming Note: If You’re Seeing This Page Please Go To BirtherReport.com For Latest News….”
This was the next to last article posted at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com. So I think that BiN used a feed from ORYR, and there’s no new content there, so nothing new at BiN. A feed from BR was not added to BiN.
While BR is an advocacy site, it is also a commercial advertising site, and they don’t get ad revenue when someone reads them at BiN.
I really doubt that BIN would ban them, as they still carry similar content, such as the stories from the King of Shambhala, Orly Taitz and even:
OK, that sounds logical. I just knew they were posting for quite awhile. And, then their posts stopped.