In a surprise statement, reported by the Arizona Republic newspaper, Mike Zullo stated that a high-ranking official at the Kapi-olani Medical Center for Women and Children confirmed that Barack Obama was not born there.
Mike Zullo further stated that the details will be made public right after the March Reveal, the release of the Reed Hayes Report and the universe shattering information of 2014.
Zullo described Donald Trump’s recent disavowal of conspiracy theories that Obama was born in Kenya as “strategic.” I think perhaps Zullo’s announcement was strategic too.
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Today’s Huffington Post:
Joe Arpaio, A Donald Trump Supporter, Still Thinks Obama’s Birth Certificate Is ‘A Forged Document’
Arizona’s Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio still isn’t convinced President Barack Obama was born in the United States.
Arpaio, a supporter of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, told a tea party group Tuesday he’s still investigating Obama’s birth certificate, which the president made public in April 2011.
“I don’t care where he’s from,” Arpaio told the crowd, according to USA Today. “We are looking at a forged document. Period.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-arpaio-obama-birth-certificate_us_5
Off-topic, I know, but i had never heard this particular Zulloism before. I’m curious if anyone here has. He also says he’s closer than ever, so there’s still hope in Birtherville, even without Trump.
“He also said an unnamed official high up in Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, the hospital listed on Obama’s birth certificate, has “assured me that birth never took place there, and I believe him.””
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2016/09/21/arizona-joe-arpaio-still-investigating-obamas-birth-certificate/90743412/
Well, it’s true when you think about it, because “there” is no longer there; I mean, we know the planet is moving through space, as is the galaxy, so that none of us can ever truly visit the exact coordinates of our birth. Birther precision, of course, accounts for such details, does not accept relative positions of the planet to the sun, and all that, nor are birthers fooled by local lines of latitude and longitude. It must be precise and exact.
So of course that birth never took place there; no births have. You have to be there at the exact moment of birth, and then “there” is gone forever.
Sad but true. Birthers win.
And the info was vetted by…the ghost who never lies! But only Zullo can see and hear him!
High up, on the roof next to the HVAC unit.
Zullo asks somebody at the hospital if Obama was born there. Hospital employee says they are unable to answer. Bingo!!! “High-ranking official” says he’s not born there.
Bithers win.
It cannot possibly have anything to do wth privacy laws.
Still amazed how easily people are swayed by a campaign speech that pretends to be an investigation.
If I’m not mistaken, the hospital doesn’t operate in the same facility in which Obama was born. Of course he wasn’t born in any building constructed after he was born.
I suspect the “admission” that Zullo got from that unnamed highly placed hospital VIP is that Obama was not born in the SAME building with the SAME name that the hospital now occupies. The Prez was born in a hospital built in 1929, but around 1977 the entire hospital moved to a new building half-a-block away and the 1929 building was eventually demolished. The hospital also changed its name since 1961 when the Prez was born.
Chief restroom attendant.
“Zullo described Donald Trump’s recent disavowal of conspiracy theories that Obama was born in Kenya as “strategic.”
I tend to agree. I don’t believe Trump believes Obama was born in Hawaii or the USA and still believe he believes there are problems with his birth narrative.
Basically, what Trump did was a “Political Stipulation”, in essense Trump has stipulated that Obama was born in the US for political reasons and therefore no will longer with entertain the issue.
This is not uncommon in court where parties agree on different stipulations to reduce litigation.
Trump basically did the same…very smart.
The real story of Trump’s Hawaii investigator.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/9/21/1572459/-Cartoon-The-real-story-of-the-investigator-Trump-sent-to-Hawaii
Donald Trump, 9/16/16: “President Obama was born in the United States.”
So you’re saying that Trump is a liar. Very perceptive of you.
That’s not exactly what he said. According to the newspaper story:
Note that he doesn’t say an official of the medical center: it’s an official high up in the medical center.
So the “official” could be the president of the Honolulu Conspiracy Hunters Club.
Who could have been making a cellphone call from an upper floor of the building.
Or could have been in the ER because he had ODed on some hallucinogen, and was raving.
Remember that these are people who believe that Shrimpton confirmed that Obama failed a DNA match with his mother.
John boy. Tell us your theory on Kommandant ZooLow’s comment about the investigation being “closer than ever.” Is that anything like any day now or universe shattering? Actually, if the truth were told we’d learn that “closer than ever” means as long as these idiots continue to say that experts are investigating this hogwash they’re always getting closer. More stringing gullible people along. And what about the foreign forensic lab that is investigating a PDF copy of a document? Will this continue down the same road as the Reed Haye’s report? How about the probable cause that was mentioned back in March of 2012? Or the persons of interest that were mentioned back in 2012? What about Arpaio’s lack of jurisdiction? Arpaio’s deception tarnishes and degrades all law enforcement.
So you admit that you’ll vote for someone who lies so readily. Get the hell out of my country, you sack of filth.
Here’s the biggest hole in Zullo’s claim: HIPAA.
I work at a hospital. We’re trained from day one to never discuss patient records, past or present, with anyone.
Donald Trump agrees with Zullo.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-donald-trump-obama-birther-20160921-story.html
Trump says he flipped on Obama’s birthplace to ‘get on with the campaign’
“Well, I just want to get on with, you know, we want to get on with the campaign,” Trump told ABC 6 of Columbus on Wednesday, when asked what had changed. “And a lot of people were asking me questions. And you know, we want to talk about jobs. We want to talk about the military. We want to talk about ISIS and how to get rid of ISIS. We want to really talk about bringing jobs back to this area because you’ve been decimated. So we really want to get just back on to the subject of jobs, military, taking care of our vets, et cetera.”
Since his brief statement on Friday, Trump has not held any news conferences. The Clinton campaign pounced on Trump’s latest remarks.
“After spending 5 years championing a conspiracy theory to undermine our first African American President, Donald Trump hasn’t actually changed his mind. He only gave his 36 second press statement last week to try to change the subject,” said Clinton spokesman Jesse Ferguson in a statement.
Slightly OT, but apropos: Evangelical Pastor: Donald Trump Under ‘Concentrated Satanic Attack’
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-satan-attack_us_57e324eae4b08d73b82f8246
Read the comments; they’re a howl. My favorites:
“I’m at the Satanic meetings. We never discuss Trump.”
“Trump’s a forbidden topic. It’s absolutely against the rules to mention Donald Trump at the meetings.”
“Concentrated Satanic Attack. That sounds like an awesome metal band.”
“Satan wouldn’t lower himself that bad. He has too much class for Trump. No need to drag poor Satan’s name in the mud”
“Concentrated Satan. Now with 100% Satan! No Fillers!”
“I’m rooting for Satan, who’s with me?”
“Mike Zullo stated that a high-ranking official at the Kapi-olani Medical Center for Women and Children confirmed that Barack Obama was not born there.”
Excellent point. I worked for 22 years as a NYS licensed optician. If Zullo names that person, he/she is going to be raked over the coals.
Care to venture an opinion on this one, John?
Nobody said “Donald who?”
Wonder if Zullo is talking about Tim Adams?
Adams was an $8/hour clerk in the Honolulu Elections Division. “Adams backed down on some of what he said after it was found that his office had no access to Hawaiian birth records, but he still maintained that Obama had no Hawaiian birth certificate…”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/10/birther-tim-adams-announces-support-for-obama/
Adams is a pathological liar.
Notice that Trump never offered THE FORGERS that 5 million dollars. He’d never do that because he knows he would have to pay up. It’s a win-win for the Donald.
Agreed.
Trump can’t even be loyal to his own lies. What makes you think you can trust him on his campaign promises, which are easy to break?
Too bad Trump already picked Pence, because he could have gone with Adams as a running mate.
Didn’t Adams also say he ended up voting for Obama in 2012?
I wouldn’t presume this alleged exchange ever even took place.
Re: Trump’s recent Revelation he believes Obama was born in Hawaii.
That sure sounds a lot like Obama in 2012 when he Released the cracken long form birth certificate after 3 years. Who ever thought both Trump and Obama would agree on wanting to “forget about it”?
You recall how frustrated Obama was releasing it and stating he did not want it to be a distraction anymore?
Trust Hillary to pounce all right. She’s got Trump right where she wants him. Now, when she releases the PROOF she’ll be able to prove Trump has lied.
http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2012/07/obamas-kenyan-birth-records-discovered.html?m=1
[However, evidence shows these records were available for public access before August of 2009, the approximate date of arrival of Hillary Clinton in Great Britain during her trip to Africa that year.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documents/information-management/access-to-public-records.pdf
Several sources show that Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton made a sudden visit to the British Foreign and Commonwealth Office, the British agency which oversees Public Records Archives from colonial protectorates, to speak with the Chief Executive of the Archives in early August of 2009. African news agency expressed surprise at Clintons arrival since she did not announce her intentions of stopping in Great Britain before embarking on her two week trip to Africa. ]
SMH ( Shaking My Head)
I often wonder how stupid Hillary was for the unplanned unexpected stop by the British Birth Records Archive before heading to Africa in 2009., but now i realize how smart she was. Brillant Server Set Up to avoid FOIA Because.. not ALL Benghazi Emails are classified retroactively?
She’s got Trump by the balls now!
The only problem now is that testy 70% of America who wouldn’t believe her if she took Obama’s British Birth Record out of her purse during the Debate and waived it like a Flag saying “See! Trump Lied!”
So oo.. foiled again. Trump beats her by siding with Obama who’s starting to pack the boxes for the U-Haul.
Democrats have lost the White House .. the Senate and the House. That’s Obama’s Legacy for Democrats. Well, you can’t win by increasing funding for terrorist, increasing terrorism and burning down American cities.
Gosh, I was just heart broken to see Charlotte NC looted, vandalized, and Rioted by the “protestors” who received permits so fast from the City.
Unfortunately, these events are really rallies for Donald Trump to win and Hillary Clinton to lose. Democrats , everyone of them , who want to keep her at the nomination helm are in kind of a political suicide vest.
Oh.. it’s going up in smoke she’s burning through cash like no bodies business 50 Million last month. Unless she’s removed now and I mean right now, Democrats lose.
Only one way now Democrats can win. That’s throw Obama under the bus and indeed expose Trump for saying and doing anything to get Elected. . Including ” Obama was born in Hawaii.. period.”
I listened to a Trump stump speech today. He’s getting very good at improve between the Tele prompt and his own mix.
The bad news for Democrats actually comes from the success of Pres. Bill Clinton , attributed to an advisor I believe ” It’s about the Economy Stupid”
Trump ultimately cast a big pal on Clinton in relating Economic Strategy in a point-of-sale. Yes, Hillary Clinton could have a better Plan but she can’t sell it. . so it’s moot. Actually and most importantly the President should be a very good salesmen.
Commentators and Wall Street can harold her as an angel of deliverance, but they can not take Trump’s ability to sell away. And when it’s about the Economy Stupid, you have to be able to sell.
Hillary can’t sell and Pres. Bill Clinton’s desire for game is not what it once was. Hillary has quite a bit of money she’s raised from foreign governments who padded Clinton Charities, and you might think that is proof she’s a good salewomen.
It’s not. She did not sell product she sold “probability” and that’s always in the houses favor in Vegas and it doesn’t come close to selling Product.
To sell product you have to really believe in it. Hillary’s own faith in foreigners is stronger than her faith in Americans. That’s an exploit of her failure.
Democrats have just got to trade horses now or its lose and lose big.
From the mouth of a convicted felon:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2016/09/most-say-trump-in-the-wrong-on-birtherism/#comment-378351
Yes, and Zullo is stupid and dishonest enough to conflate the position of a low level Hawaii election clerk with a Kapiolani Hospital official. I suspect that is exactly what is going on here.
Most Christians understand the Only Begotten Son of God was also. John 18:30 “They answered and said, if he were not a malefactor, we would not have delivered him up unto thee.”
So.. is your point good, bad.. what?
You know I always say when men start saying God [can’t] talk anymore they are in big trouble for one they are in violation of Free Speech protections under the 1stAmendment ;and then when the State goes into a Religious Meeting and says it then your violating a free religion and establishment clause; and then when you deny the public and the defendant the right to evidence you’ve denied basic protection rights of the accused in Trial.
All that happened to me and I’m glad you brought it up, because it only substantiates the need for Reform. . Actually a tenant on the plate of Democrats and Republicans.
http://codyjudy.blogspot.com/2015/02/fight-over-forgiveness-lds-church.html?m=1
The lessee of two evils?
God needs the protections of the First Amendment to speak? What a wimpy assed god he is.
Judy is suddenly a Constitutional and theological scholar. Amazing what he learned as a jailhouse lawyer.
Good thought!
Ex con Judy lies yet again: He pleaded guilty; he waived his right to a trial.
And, of course, ex con Judy turns yet another discussion into one about him.
Quite interesting how Zullo can never name names, not even in those cases where the BR crowd was screaming for them, namely those “VIP’s” who allegedly promised him to “move things forward” and then never delivered.
Then again, it’s a common RW trope to strongly believe in anything that can only point to anonymous sources.
I bet a blog post “High ranking Mossad official, on condition of anonymity, confirms Hillary is Obama’s mother and gave birth to him in Kenya in the same hospital where she was treated for the bubonic plague” would find thousands of people willing to believe it.
Let’s speculate how long the BR crowd is willing to hang on if Trump wins the election but does not dive into the birther issue immediately.
I’d say they will hold on for at least as long as for the promised A/Z day which never materialized – forever.
Zullo’s full of, uh, crap. He’s a cussword so-and-so who just makes stuff up. I don’t think any further analysis is warranted.
You know ZulloMoore’s right on this one. As the forger, I know this for a fact.
Yes, President Obama wanted a lie about his birth to stop being a distraction from doing the people’s business. Donald Trump wants the truth about his own birtherism to stop being a distraction from giving people the business.
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OT, but apropos: Trump is headed for a win, says professor who has predicted 30 years of presidential outcomes correctly
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/23/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-whos-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/?wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1
This is the critical caveat:
“Given all of these exceptions that Donald Trump represents, he may well shatter patterns of history that have held for more than 150 years, lose this election even if the historical circumstances favor it….
“So very, very narrowly, the keys point to a Trump victory. But I would say, more to the point, they point to a generic Republican victory, because I believe that given the unprecedented nature of the Trump candidacy and Trump himself, he could defy all odds and lose even though the verdict of history is in his favor. So this would also suggest, you know, the possibility this election could go either way. Nobody should be complacent, no matter who you’re for, you gotta get out and vote.”
Plus, as I wrote before, the GOP did this once before with Wendell Willkie:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2016/09/breaking-news-trump-disavows-birtherism/#comment-378228
Important links:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/30/upshot/before-trump-or-fiorina-there-was-wendell-willkie.html?_r=0
and: http://tinyurl.com/hqc3f2x
Prediction markets: http://predictwise.com/politics/2016-president-winner
77-13-6. Withdrawal of plea. (b) A request to withdraw a plea of guilty or no contest, except for a plea held in abeyance, shall be made by motion before sentence is announced. Sentence may not be announced unless the motion is denied. For a plea held in abeyance, a motion to withdraw the plea shall be made within 30 days of pleading guilty or no contest.
You know what Sponge Bob, it is a common practise on this Blog to at least allow someone personally attacked to defend themselves.
Did I bring up my Criminal Case first? I don’t think so.
But then you gotta chime in and throw your own B.S. on the fire and really Stink things up, I gotta come in and set the false accusations to rest.
Which if I don’t everyone here thinks is the gospel by Sponge Bob. You soak your B.S. up where, out of the toilet?
Not that you will ever soak this up, but please do try to get your head out of the bowl.
My guilty plea was withdrawn after 3 Days Bob. Not 30 days as is allowed when you find out your attorney is lying like Hillary Clinton when she said she only had one mobile device and it was found she had 13, or said she never emailed confidential material and thought (c) stood for whatever she said it stood for, or when she blamed the Benghazi Terror attack on a video 9/11/12 so Obama would not be blamed and lose the election of 2012.
The Judge was an LDS Bishop directly under Religious Priesthood Authority to the guy whose speech I disrupted in protest who was acting LDS President. Can you wrap your head around that Sponge Bob?
Why didn’t the Bishop allow me to withdraw my guilty plea after I found out I’d been lied to by my Council, Public Pretenders, who I ultimately sued?
Judy v. Public Defenders Office -Killpack Rasmussen
You know besides the fact that it happened 23 years ago, thats when Chelsea Clinton was 13, Bill Clinton was just moving in to the White House and “The Fugitive”, starring Harrison Ford, was released you might do some research before you start lying about people and their circumstances or as this case demonstrates you leave out the fact I plead guilty and withdrew that after 3 Days.
Of course, that is on the Record and you should include that from now on anytime you repeat anything about my Case.. got it?
I don’t mind you bringing it up, but I do mind when you start leaving out facts to make me look bad exhonerating the Injustice I’ve been through. I wouldn’t wish it on you Sponge Bob, but you keep up your toilet talk I will.
Friends?
There is no evidence that Clinton ever blamed the Benghazi attack on a video. This is what she said on 9/11/12:
Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet.
http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2012/09/197628.htm
What she said was absolutely true. Some people were saying that, and if fact the idea that the Benghazi attack was a response to a video originated with a Libyan official.
The amount of stupidity and vicious lies out there on Benghazi is amazing. Worthless slugs like CRJ just keep shoveling it as if it was the worst attack since 911.
It’s not as impressive as it sounds. In each presidential election in modern times only two people have a realistic chance to win. If we assume that each election is a 50-50 proposition, the odds against picking the winner seven times in a row are 128-1.
However, at least three of the last seven elections were not 50-50 propositions. You could argue that 1992, 2000, 2004 and 2012 were 50-50 propositions, but 1988, 1996 and 2008 were pretty easy to predict. The odds against predicting the four 50-50 elections correctly were only 16-1.
And then there is the argument that Gore actually won in 2000, which means that the professor hasn’t actually picked seven in a row.
Evidence in Hillary’s own words from her own mouth. Perhaps you can deny that?
HILLARY SAYS VIOLENCE in Benghazi clearly linked to Video
1m45sec
https://youtu.be/iQmh-tf0Vfo
HILLARY
SAYS ” I’d like to take a moment to address the video leading to these “protest”
41-56 sec
https://youtu.be/k0nA_YRQWbY
Witness also counts as Evidence
[ “She lied to me and then called me a liar,” said Patti Smith on Monday. At the Sept. 14, 2012 coffin ceremony at Andrews Air Force Base, attended by Clinton, President Obama, and other officials, Secretary Clinton “looked me squarely in the eye and told me a video was responsible,” said Smith.]
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/michael-w-chapman/benghazi-victims-mother-hillary-clinton-lied-me-told-me-video-was
Yes, I can deny it, because the edited clips which you show take her words out of context. She was talking not only about Benghazi, but also the unrest in Egypt, which was in fact motivated by the video.
Show me where she said unequivocally that the video was responsible for the attack in Benghazi. You can’t do it, because she never said it.
Actually, no: it originated with the attackers, themselves, who told reporters as it was happening that they were there about the video.
The Libyan official was just repeating what he’d been told by witnesses.
Yes they do.
Jan Stevens, father of Ambassador Chris Stevens, told PolitiFact that the first time he heard anything about a video was when the Washington Post Fact Checker called him with a similar question. He confirmed that he heard “nothing whatsoever” about a video from Clinton but declined to comment further.
Tyrone Woods’ mother, Cheryl Bennett, told PolitiFact that when she spoke with Clinton, she “never heard the word ‘video’ mentioned. That’s just a fact.” Bennett, who is estranged from Charles Woods, said the motivation behind the attack didn’t come up in her brief interaction with Clinton.
Barbara Doherty, Glen Doherty’s mother, didn’t recall talking with Clinton about a video and said she remembered Clinton as being sincere and crying, according to the Washington Post.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/jul/18/checking-patricia-smiths-claims-about-clinton-and-/
Thanks for the clarification.
And CRJ continues to lie about it by producing selectively edited videos which take Clinton’s statements out of context.
If ex con Judy believed the judge was biased against him, then ex con Judy should have sought the judge’s recusal. But he didn’t. Leading to the conclusion that the judge’s religion is yet another after-the-fact excuse concocted by ex con Judy to cowardly avoid accepting responsibility for the harm he caused.
Ex con Judy’s motion to withdraw was denied, as was his lawsuit against his attorneys. Denials upheld by judges who weren’t bishops.
The reality is that ex con Judy received a lenient sentence for the extremely serious crime he committed. And ex con Judy showed his appreciation by suing his attorney.
A person who has been convicted for acts related to threatening thousands really ought to lay off the threatening language.
I have a personal rule to not befriend lying, unrepentant domestic terrorists. Or birthers.
Complete synopsis:
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2016/09/most-say-trump-in-the-wrong-on-birtherism/#comment-378351
Another lie, made so if you’d read the Appeals that go back and fourth in the Utah Appeals Court/Supreme Court and then jump into the Federal Court’s and go to Denver; And also the complaint to the Utah Judicial Conduct Commission.
As well the Law Suit against the LDS Presidency that went to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The only thing Bob doesn’t get is who the domestic terrorist are. Those who cover up, conceal, and otherwise believe their corruption shall have no end. The day is coming. . though when you heard God’s voice you believed not the Lord, or his servants, while you lied over and over and over.
My submission to the Law is not my downfall. By submitting to it, I became it’s Advocate. You have not submitted to the Law or else it would be your champion and you wouldn’t have to lie. But because you do lie, you have no part in upholding law but your hiding from it. I’m not. My Record is known.
Wherefore , they the prophets (sealed up the testimony and bound up the Law), and why was this necessary? That yes ye were delivered over unto darkness and Justice shall have her way.
These shall go away into outer darkness, where there is weaping, wailing, and knashing of teeth. Behold, the Lord your God hath spoken it.
You think the Record does not testify against you. You think you are blameless? But the Law is clear, the Record also, and it witnesses of your corruption by the Standard of the Law that ye cannot escape.
I urge you to Repent Bob and confess, lest your own chains are made secure, and your hope and change shall be a torment you cannot escape.
Big Day tomorrow!
Presidential Debate & …. SCOTUS conference Elliott v. Cruz.
An oldie but a goodie. “The Corrupt Cold Case Posse” reported by MSNBC back in July of 2012. Everyone has got their number except the Birther zombies.
http://www.msnbc.com/now-with-alex-wagner/watch/what-now-the-corrupt-cold-case-posse-44421187667
Your total absence of any remorse whatsoever for the heinous act you committed damns you in the eyes of your own religion.
Your thin veneer of piousness is merely more Heepish hypocrisy.
You are a contemptible person.
This blog seems to attract birther commenters who embody the ideal characteristics of a Trump voter:
* there’s John, a racist moron of the first water who can barely string words into a coherent sentence
* there’s Cody Robert Judy, a felon, a hypocrite, a troublemaker who blames everybody else for his inadequacy
* and Nancy Ruth Owens, who is delusional and narcissistic
All of them liars too, although in Owens’ case that stems more from her tenuous grip on reality than deliberate mendacity
Anybody can file an appeal with the Supreme Court. You are an incompetent pro se plaintiff, and you’ve done it three times.
Big Day tomorrow!
Presidential Debate & …. SCOTUS conference Elliott v. Cruz.
You never learn, do you? Eliott v. Cruz went to conference today without a single justice calling for a response from Cruz. This means that the case has been put on the dead list, so it was not even discussed at today’s conference. It, like Apuzzo’s previous two Supreme Court appeals, was dead on arrival.
Now you attack “Religion”, whither mine yours, or someone else’s I’m quite sure it’s not American. We have a Standard over here my foreign friend, you probably don’t understand as you don’t even understand the Laws of Nature published in French by Vattell.
Not that you’d understand but do you know whose Church it is that you accuse me of piousness over? Hypocrisy actually stems from a Standard and what Standard do you claim to know and defend?
In other words, I can tell you have a great propensity to throw language around that while flowery has little real application to the facts.
As an example let us consider just for one minute who in your opinion has more of a following , perhaps we might say who has more power in the eyes of the world Republican/ Democrat Party nominees for the Office of President or let’s say the Leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints population in U.S.A roughly 7 million – 14 million world wide?
Now, you may recall the man who popped up on Stage at an Ohio Presidential Rally protesting , attempted Assasination, charged with inducing panic, disorderly conduct.
Did you know my original charges were disrupting school, disrupting a meeting, and simple assault all 3 misdemeanors? Now, if an arresting authority has any clue about the circumstances that you’d care to credit before politics comes into the picture, you’d have to question what I ended up with after two escalation of charges by the County Attorney with no more evidence recovered two 5-Life’s. I don’t want to paint a picture of extremes to vividly but don’t you wonder whatever happened to that guy at the Ohio Trump Rally with Secret Service protection and representing 160 Million People?
DAYTON, Ohio — An Ohio college student has pleaded guilty to trying to rush the stage at a Donald Trump rally and has been ordered to stay out of future GOP presidential events.
A federal judge on Tuesday also ordered one year of probation for Thomas DiMassimo and fined him $250.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/news/politics/man-rush-stage-trump-rally-pleads-guilty-article-1.2727161%3f0p19G=e?client=ms-android-verizon
Your idea of a heinous act is clearly delusional and disproportionate to circumstances of reality.
Ex con Judy filed complaints, suits, and appeals — all denied. But ex con Judy had no problem with the trial judge when he presided over the imposition of a rather lenient sentence.
Domestic terrorists include those who terrorize thousands by threatening to detonate an explosive device. A crime made worse by ex con Judy’s unrepentant lying about it.
😆😅😂 Bob, “lenient sentence” = 3018 Days a little over 8 years and 4 years on parole for the arresting charges amounting to misdemeanors.
Bob’s a harsh man. I missed the 90’s Decade no property damage, no loss of money, life, limb, in a Religious Meeting Bob says I got off easy.
Then he says I was happy with the Sentence which some eight appeals to 6 Court’s contest. Bob’s in a toilet bowl in his own little world.
Bob you’re kinda funny. Try Stand Up Comedy.
Do you think the Clinton Crime Act contributed?
While some here may think this is narrative of a single case, I can tell you it’s not. That Justice Reform is and needs discussion because it’s not just the person serving time who is a victim.
Society also is victimized by unruly, overly harsh, sentences as its funded by tax payers in a Prison Empire Building System exploiting Offenses, holding Legislatures hostage for money that could be used for Education.
And, more importantly, two years before the Oklahoma City bombing. A different time. When Mr. Judy pushed his way before an audience of over 15,000 and threatened them with a bomb (that turned out to be fake), the crowd started singing. He was subdued and arrested. The lecture, or “fireside” as it was called, continued.
Imagine what the response would be today.
This Presidential Election is very important towards direction of our rudder. We need good Balance. Clinton has lost hers.. several times in fact.
If that’s not a Witness to you I don’t know what could be.
Trump we also must worry about in good Balance. When a Pres. Candidate says, ” That’s not going to happen” , we must assume the worst. That Force will be used so it won’t.
How much will that Force cost? If 1 in 5 Americans are incarcerated, on parole or probation , 4 in 5 are paying for that.
What happens if the Ratio becomes 1/2?
A system crash is inevitable.
While I fully believe we need reform another factor is not readily discussed. The return of profit for the investment of institutionalized individuals.
After 5 years , especially with the faster and faster tech knowledge, a Citizen reintroduced has suffered a Civil Death.
That is, things outside have progressed so far that they are like infants in Adult Bodies. As an example, in 1993 when I went in no one really had cell phones, when I came out with $100 dollar gate money, it was a “norm”.
I believe the harshest penalties should be 5 years/ $55,000 per year, our Prisons should be higher institutions of learning that can turn out Doctor’s, Dentist, Inventors, Machinist etc.
That’s an investment with a return.
This requires educating Society in a different direction then Bob’s Harshness. It’s a reality that indeed reflects money out of your own wallet.
It should be personal. , and while comments might seem funny the real world is our mutual consideration.
Actually was the point three comments above.
Of course we should consider the National Security compromise and endangerment most recently discovered upon every American wherein Clinton’s Criminal Investigation resulted after an expensive 1 year Long probe.
No time served.
http://observer.com/2016/09/the-fbi-investigation-of-emailgate-was-a-sham/
Dr. Johnson defined patriotism as “the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
You are a convicted felon: “In a plea agreement with Utah County prosecutors, Judy, 27, entered guilty pleas to one count of aggravated burglary, a first-degree felony; one count of assault, a third-degree felony; and one count of escape, a class B misdemeanor.”
http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2016/09/most-say-trump-in-the-wrong-on-birtherism/#comment-378351
First, it’s “doctors,” not “Doctor’s.”
Second, anyone working in health care cannot have a felony conviction; misdemeanor convictions are sometimes allowed, depending on the conviction. As a NYS licensed optician, I cannot have a felony conviction and I cannot have a misdemeanor conviction, if it is related to insurance fraud or child abuse.
Also, your wife left you and you were living in your car at one point.
You are hardly a fount of wisdom.
misha marinsky
“The Denialists are a motley crew of grifters, felons, malcontents, anti-Semites and sore losers. James Manning, the latest to get on the crazy train, has a lengthy criminal record: he burgled homes, mostly on Long Island, and spent about 3½ years in prison in NY and Florida for burglary, robbery, larceny, criminal possession of a weapon, and other charges.
Gary Kreep’s infomercials are produced and hosted by Bill Keller, a fundamentalist minister who was imprisoned in the late ’80s for an insider trading conviction. Andy Martin is a vicious anti-Semite, who never finished a prison sentence after being mistakenly released.
Orly Taitz’s antics could fill a library. Before she became the crazy train conductor, she already had been personally involved in 22 lawsuits in Orange County civil court. Her law degree is from the Taft Law School, an unaccredited correspondence outfit. And a $20,000 court sanction is hanging over her.”
http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-born-in-kenya-no.html
(Pardon the plug.)
Watch John Oliver demolish Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Lfd1aB9YI
Unfortunately, you cannot go forum shopping. Don’t like the disparities? Amend the Constitution.
Repent! https://www.flickr.com/photos/ubereye/3611738524/in/dateposted/
Isn’t that the church which excommunicated you in 1995?
It wasn’t an attempted assassination. He wasn’t carrying a weapon. And he didn’t threaten to blow up anyone with a bomb.
Except they weren’t misdemeanors; ex con Judy was convicted of felonies; convictions that he pleaded to. And the sentence ex con Judy received was lenient when compared to what the sentence could have been had all charges been fully brought.
Ex con Judy continues the minimize the harm he caused to thousands by threatening to detonate an explosive device; disgusting.
Ex con Judy fails to read properly: Ex con Judy voluntarily entered into a relatively lenient plea agreement. Only after a case of cold feet did he decide that the trial judge was biased, his attorney was incompetent, etc. And the courts rejected all of ex con Judy’s belated excuses.
Considering that no Clinton has ever contributed anything to any crime act in Utah; no.
If there’s an expert holding hostages, it is ex con Judy.
Because Clinton has never convicted (let alone charged) with anything; duh.
He also was arrested for violating a protective order, but of course that wasn’t his fault, either. He claimed that he didn’t know that the protective order was still in effect, yet he parked his car a block from his ex-wife’s house, and instead of going to the front door to see his children he went to the back gate to get their attention. His actions sound rather surreptitious and suspicious to me.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/846569/Judy-arrested-after-visit-with-children.html?pg=all
I remain mystified why anyone engages with the delusional Mr. Judy.
Then again, what else is there to talk about now that birtherism has been fully exposed as a complete joke for 8 years straight. We’ve picked the silver mine clean, and all that is left is to make fun of CRJ, who waves around lumps of coal and pretends they are flawless diamonds.
I actually agree with ex con Judy on a few topics. For example, ex con Judy penned this editorial: Trump’s Debate Prep Just Awful on Birther Issue!
I agree that Trump’s preparation was horrible: Trump said that he anticipated a birther question; yet when asked to apologize to the African American community, Trump responded, “I say nothing.”
Even most racists know to make public, perfunctory denials of their racism.
And he used the Blumenthal accusation in his reply. One would expect the professionals on his campaign to warn him against doubling down on such an obvious lie.
Maybe he really is dumb enough to believe that crap.
But you left out the part that followed that quote
So, Trump gave up birfering, not because he realized it was BS, but …
… because his newfound African-American pals told him it wasn’t PC.
(btw, if you haven’t seen it already, you really should watch that part of the debate. The pause when he searches for the right term for how long he’s been buddy-buddy with “the blacks” is priceless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjU6wZgyLh8 ).
Trump doubles down on obvious lies for sport.
What made the professionals cringe was that he was on national television talking about Blumenthal … but not about emails. Or that he was so lost in the birther woods that he losing the audience. Only a birther (or birther watcher) knows who Sollis is, for example, or her role.
I see a Trumpfall meme on a distant horizon.